[NTG-context] Re: penalties

[Thomas Meyer <thomasgmeyer@t-online.de>]

Hi Hans,

thank you very much for your help.
The version
\startsetups[mypenalties] ...
seemed to work better. Then I have tried
\specificationdef \MyWidowPenalties \widowpenalties 3 10000 10000 0
\specificationdef \MyClubPenalties \clubpenalties 3 10000 10000 0 ...
and it was even better.
However, I can no longer evaluate what works really well, as a new 
problem has arisen (after the last update?):
On one page I still have 18 empty lines at the bottom. On the next page 
there is a paragraph with a picture on the right that only takes up 13 
lines. Then more text. I don't know how to get the paragraph with the 
image onto the previous page.

Greetings
Thomas


Am 31.10.24 um 21:33 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 10/31/2024 7:26 PM, Thomas Meyer wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> following today's update,
>>
>> \startsetups[grid][mypenalties]
>>      \setdefaultpenalties
>>      \setpenalties\widowpenalties{2}{10000}
>>      \setpenalties\clubpenalties {2}{10000}
>> \stopsetups
>>
>> \setuplayout[grid=yes, setups=mypenalties]
>
> does
>
> \startsetups[mypenalties]
>      \setdefaultpenalties
>      \setpenalties\widowpenalties{2}{10000}
>      \setpenalties\clubpenalties {2}{10000}
> \stopsetups
>
> work? this [grid] was only used for this case and has been dropped in 
> favour of more powerful par passes and specification definitions
>
> this setup approach was also sensitive for order
>
>> doesn't work any longer, I think. Can anyone confirm this. There is 
>> another problem (page break in the paragraph) that I have yet to verify. 
>
> We now have so call \specificationdef's that work as shown below:
>
> \starttext
>
> \showmakeup[vpenalty]
>
> \specificationdef \MyWidowPenalties \widowpenalties 3 10000 10000 0
> \specificationdef \MyClubPenalties  \clubpenalties  3 10000 10000 0
>
> { \samplefile {tufte} } \page
>
> { \MyWidowPenalties \MyClubPenalties  \samplefile {tufte} }  \page
>
> { \lesswidowpenalties \lessclubpenalties  \samplefile {tufte} } \page
>
> { \setupalign[lesswidows,lessclubs,lessorphans] \samplefile {tufte} }  
> \page
>
> \stoptext
>
> predefined new alignment keys are:
>
> defaultwidows defaultclubs defaultbroken
>
> lesswidows lessclubs lessbroken
>
> lessorphans lessorphans:2 lessorphans:3 lessorphans:4
>
> strictwidows strictwidows:2 strictwidows:3 strictwidows:4
> strictclubs  strictclubs:2  strictclubs:3  strictclubs:4
>
> strictbroken
>
> so a 'global' setupalign can be used
>
> Hans
>
>
>
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