From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24378 invoked from network); 11 May 2023 16:30:48 -0000 Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (5.39.185.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 11 May 2023 16:30:48 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6314E1C3113; Thu, 11 May 2023 18:30:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HocpToa5YBGB; Thu, 11 May 2023 18:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187A41C0F55; Thu, 11 May 2023 18:30:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D808A1C2C2A for ; Thu, 11 May 2023 18:30:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4ElRClWH5bIi for ; Thu, 11 May 2023 18:30:07 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=116.202.254.214; helo=ciao.gmane.io; envelope-from=gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org; receiver= Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 959426E4 for ; Thu, 11 May 2023 18:30:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1px9B8-0007nd-MM for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Thu, 11 May 2023 18:30:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 12:29:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <0c92787c-15bc-2c99-8699-239c2b97faec@freedom.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0c92787c-15bc-2c99-8699-239c2b97faec@freedom.nl> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] This is rmally done by loading special math fonts into the math family slots. X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.38 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Carlos via ntg-context Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Carlos Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 07:00:15PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote: > > On 5/9/2023 6:24 PM, Carlos via ntg-context wrote: > > > With that being said, in that sense (not that I need it though, to be > > honest), the luatex lmtx approach is more of an instant gratification, > > whereas with latex and the metrics of the file afterwards, any math > > environment is certainly possible, while loading myriad and minion et co > > without an error > > > > I still stand for what I said earlier. That lot and their heirs already > > made their money by shoving down acroread all over. It's no secret > Normally context will fall bakc on latin modern but when you explicitly load > a font setup and that one doesn't have math fonts it will not be set up I checked the type-imp-* file. Unicode-math from latex had no issues on two different systems one running a full TeXLive and the other on e customized on-demand package installatino but that part you said in the beginning: > Normally context will fall bakc on latin modern but when you explicitly load that's simply brilliant Hans \starttypescript [minionserif] \definetypeface [minionserif] [rm] [serif] [minionserif] [default] \definetypeface [minionserif] [ss] [sans] [minionsans] [default] % \definetypeface [minionsans] [mm] [math] [minionserif] [default] > right and then you get these parameter relates messages. The minion math > font is supported when you have it installed although we're not sure if the > tweaks will work okay. I only have an old evaluation copy that I can't use > outside testing anyway, and I don't have the minion fonts that can be used > in documents (acrobat fonts are only for display) so I never use minion > anyway. > > Although every math environment is possible (after all there are not than > manyu math fonts) one always has to match them properly with serif and sans > fonts (relative scaling etc). > > When someone wants support for some commercial font, they have to buy us a > few copies with no constraints. (Normally in a project we just get them > anyway.) There are plenty of examples in the type-imp-* files that show the > way. > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- Thus spake the master programmer: "When a program is being tested, it is too late to make design changes." -- Geoffrey James, "The Tao of Programming" ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________