* Problem with vocalised hebrew @ 2017-12-15 11:45 Lutz Haseloff 2017-12-15 18:09 ` Rik Kabel 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2017-12-15 11:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Context Mailing List [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 489 bytes --] Hi all, i would like to typeset hebrew with context. My not fully working example: \starttext \definedfont[name:narkisim at 20pt] \setupalign[r2l] טְרוֹפוֹתִי \stoptext In the resulting pdf the vocalisations are on the left side of the glyph, instead of being centered. I append the result of context and the result of Libreoffice. Is there a way to typeset vocalised hebrew with context or am I doing something wrong? Greetings Lutz -- GPG Key ID 3C4F83BC [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 557 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: context.JPG --] [-- Type: image/jpeg, Size: 10557 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: libreoffice.JPG --] [-- Type: image/jpeg, Size: 13562 bytes --] [-- Attachment #4: Type: text/plain, Size: 492 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with vocalised hebrew 2017-12-15 11:45 Problem with vocalised hebrew Lutz Haseloff @ 2017-12-15 18:09 ` Rik Kabel 2017-12-15 19:11 ` Lutz Haseloff 2017-12-16 8:23 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2017-12-15 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1817 bytes --] On 2017-12-15 06:45, Lutz Haseloff wrote: > Hi all, > i would like to typeset hebrew with context. > My not fully working example: > > \starttext > \definedfont[name:narkisim at 20pt] > \setupalign[r2l] > טְרוֹפוֹתִי > \stoptext > > In the resulting pdf the vocalisations are on the left side of the > glyph, instead of being centered. > I append the result of context and the result of Libreoffice. > > Is there a way to typeset vocalised hebrew with context or am I doing > something wrong? > > Greetings Lutz > -- > GPG Key ID 3C4F83BC > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ Depending on the font, correct niqqud placement requires some combination (sometimes all) of the following font features: lang, ccmp, and script. For Ezra SIL, I would use \definefontfeature [hebrew] [oldstyle] [ lang=heb, ccmp=yes, script=hebr, ] \starttext \definedfont[name:EzraSIL*hebrew at 72pt] \setupalign[r2l] טְרוֹפוֹתִי \stoptext while for David_CLM the script feature suffices: \definefontfeature [hebrew] [oldstyle] [ % lang=heb, % ccmp=yes, script=hebr, ] \starttext \definedfont[name:David_CLM-medium*hebrew at 72pt] \setupalign[r2l] טְרוֹפוֹתִי \stoptext You will have to find what works for narkisim. -- Rik [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3273 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 492 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with vocalised hebrew 2017-12-15 18:09 ` Rik Kabel @ 2017-12-15 19:11 ` Lutz Haseloff 2017-12-15 21:54 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2017-12-16 8:23 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2017-12-15 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2191 bytes --] Thank you very much Rik, your settings for EzraSIL are working nicely for my favorite font Narkisim. Thanks again Lutz Am 15. Dezember 2017 19:09:09 MEZ schrieb Rik Kabel <context@rik.users.panix.com>: >On 2017-12-15 06:45, Lutz Haseloff wrote: >> Hi all, >> i would like to typeset hebrew with context. >> My not fully working example: >> >> \starttext >> \definedfont[name:narkisim at 20pt] >> \setupalign[r2l] >> טְרוֹפוֹתִי >> \stoptext >> >> In the resulting pdf the vocalisations are on the left side of the >> glyph, instead of being centered. >> I append the result of context and the result of Libreoffice. >> >> Is there a way to typeset vocalised hebrew with context or am I doing > >> something wrong? >> >> Greetings Lutz >> -- >> GPG Key ID 3C4F83BC >> >> >> >___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an >entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >___________________________________________________________________________________ > >Depending on the font, correct niqqud placement requires some >combination (sometimes all) of the following font features: lang, ccmp, > >and script. For Ezra SIL, I would use > > \definefontfeature [hebrew] [oldstyle] [ > lang=heb, > ccmp=yes, > script=hebr, > ] > \starttext > \definedfont[name:EzraSIL*hebrew at 72pt] > \setupalign[r2l] > טְרוֹפוֹתִי > \stoptext > >while for David_CLM the script feature suffices: > > \definefontfeature [hebrew] [oldstyle] [ > % lang=heb, > % ccmp=yes, > script=hebr, > ] > \starttext > \definedfont[name:David_CLM-medium*hebrew at 72pt] > \setupalign[r2l] > טְרוֹפוֹתִי > \stoptext > >You will have to find what works for narkisim. > >-- >Rik -- GPG Key ID 3C4F83BC [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3881 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 492 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with vocalised hebrew 2017-12-15 19:11 ` Lutz Haseloff @ 2017-12-15 21:54 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2017-12-16 6:31 ` Lutz Haseloff 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2017-12-15 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Thank you. Wikified: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Arabic_and_Hebrew#Hebrew Greetlings, Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net http://wiki.contextgarden.net GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with vocalised hebrew 2017-12-15 21:54 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2017-12-16 6:31 ` Lutz Haseloff 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Lutz Haseloff @ 2017-12-16 6:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 909 bytes --] Hi Hraban, thank you for wikifying. B.t.w טרופותי is the ivrit name of the Gruffalo ;-) Am 15. Dezember 2017 22:54:57 MEZ schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>: >Thank you. Wikified: >http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Arabic_and_Hebrew#Hebrew > >Greetlings, Hraban >--- >http://www.fiee.net >http://wiki.contextgarden.net >GPG Key ID 1C9B22FD > >___________________________________________________________________________________ >If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry >to the Wiki! > >maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >wiki : http://contextgarden.net >___________________________________________________________________________________ -- GPG Key ID 3C4F83BC [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1444 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 492 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Problem with vocalised hebrew 2017-12-15 18:09 ` Rik Kabel 2017-12-15 19:11 ` Lutz Haseloff @ 2017-12-16 8:23 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-12-16 8:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Rik Kabel On 12/15/2017 7:09 PM, Rik Kabel wrote: > On 2017-12-15 06:45, Lutz Haseloff wrote: >> Hi all, >> i would like to typeset hebrew with context. >> My not fully working example: >> >> \starttext >> \definedfont[name:narkisim at 20pt] >> \setupalign[r2l] >> טְרוֹפוֹתִי >> \stoptext >> >> In the resulting pdf the vocalisations are on the left side of the >> glyph, instead of being centered. >> I append the result of context and the result of Libreoffice. >> >> Is there a way to typeset vocalised hebrew with context or am I doing >> something wrong? >> >> Greetings Lutz >> -- >> GPG Key ID 3C4F83BC >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist :ntg-context@ntg.nl /http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage :http://www.pragma-ade.nl /http://context.aanhet.net >> archive :https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki :http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > Depending on the font, correct niqqud placement requires some > combination (sometimes all) of the following font features: lang, ccmp, > and script. For Ezra SIL, I would use > > \definefontfeature [hebrew] [oldstyle] [ > lang=heb, > ccmp=yes, > script=hebr, > ] > \starttext > \definedfont[name:EzraSIL*hebrew at 72pt] > \setupalign[r2l] > טְרוֹפוֹתִי > \stoptext > > while for David_CLM the script feature suffices: > > \definefontfeature [hebrew] [oldstyle] [ > % lang=heb, > % ccmp=yes, > script=hebr, > ] > \starttext > \definedfont[name:David_CLM-medium*hebrew at 72pt] > \setupalign[r2l] > טְרוֹפוֹתִי > \stoptext > > You will have to find what works for narkisim. There is a font feature hebrew already predefined \definefontfeature [hebrewoldstyle] [oldstyle] [...] if you have to set a language depends on the font (often dflt is ok). This is the predefined set: \definefontfeature [semitic-complete] [mode=node,analyze=yes,language=dflt,ccmp=yes, autoscript=position,autolanguage=position, init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes,isol=yes, mark=yes,mkmk=yes,kern=yes,curs=yes, liga=yes,dlig=yes,rlig=yes,clig=yes,calt=yes] \definefontfeature [semitic-simple] [mode=node,analyze=yes,language=dflt,ccmp=yes, autoscript=position,autolanguage=position, init=yes,medi=yes,fina=yes,isol=yes, mark=yes,mkmk=yes,kern=yes,curs=yes, rlig=yes,calt=yes] \definefontfeature [arabic] [semitic-complete] [script=arab] \definefontfeature [syriac] [arabic] [fin2=yes,fin3=yes,med2=yes] \definefontfeature [hebrew] [semitic-complete] [script=hebr] \definefontfeature [simplearabic] [semitic-simple] [script=arab] \definefontfeature [simplehebrew] [semitic-simple] [script=hebr] Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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