Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Yanrui Li]

These days I have been reading "co-fonts.pdf" because I plan to write
a document about
ConTeXt MkIV for our Chinese users. When I reached the part of
"Defining body fonts",
for testing bodyfont model, I made an example as following:

%%%%
\definefontsynonym[Song][AdobeSongStd-Light]
\definefontsynonym[Hei][AdobeHeitiStd-Regular]
\definefontsynonym[FangSong][AdobeFangsongStd-Regular]
\definefontsynonym[Kai][AdobeKaitiStd-Regular]

\definebodyfont[12pt][rm]
               [tf=Song,
                 bf=Hei sa 1,
                 it=Kai sa 1,
                 sl=FangSong sa 1]

\setscript[hanzi]
\setupbodyfont[rm,12pt]

\starttext

今时之人不然也，以酒为浆，以妄为常，
{\bf 醉以入房，以欲竭其精，以耗散其真}，
{\it 不知持满，不时御神}，
{\sl 务快其心，逆于生乐，起居无节，故半百而衰也}。

\stoptext
%%%%

I found that "rmtf" font is not "AdobeSongStd-Light", which is always
"LMRoman12-Regular".
However, "bf", "it" and "sl" fonts all are right.

I looked over the log file and saw some messages as following:

    fonts          : preloading latin modern fonts
    bodyfont       : 12pt rm is loaded

I want to know why I can not override the preloading rm font.

Thanks.

-- 
Best wishes,
Li Yanrui

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* ConTeXt Minimals Beta (2009.03.30 18:28)
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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 05.04.2009 um 15:07 schrieb Yanrui Li:

> I want to know why I can not override the preloading rm font.

Dunno but it works for a complete definition.

\definefontsynonym [Song]     [file:AdobeSongStd-Light]
\definefontsynonym [Hei]      [file:AdobeHeitiStd-Regular]
\definefontsynonym [FangSong] [file:AdobeFangsongStd-Regular]
\definefontsynonym [Kai]      [file:AdobeKaitiStd-Regular]

\starttypescript [serif] [default] [size]

   \definebodyfont [12pt] [rm]
     [tf=Song sa 1,
      bf=Hei sa 1,
      it=Kai sa 1,
      sl=FangSong sa 1]

\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [chinese]
   \definefontsynonym [Serif] [Song]
\stoptypescript

\definetypeface [chinese] [rm] [serif] [chinese] [default]

\setscript[hanzi]
\setupbodyfont[chinese,rm,12pt]

\starttext

\startlines
\tf 今时之人不然也，以酒为浆，以妄为常，
\bf 醉以入房，以欲竭其精，以耗散其真，
\it 不知持满，不时御神，
\sl 务快其心，逆于生乐，起居无节，故半百而衰也。
\stoplines

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Yanrui Li]

2009/4/5 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
>
> Am 05.04.2009 um 15:07 schrieb Yanrui Li:
>
>> I want to know why I can not override the preloading rm font.
>
> Dunno but it works for a complete definition.
>

If I use other font size, it can work, such as:

\definebodyfont[11pt][rm]
               [tf=Song,
                 bf=Hei sa 1,
                 it=Kai sa 1,
                 sl=FangSong sa 1]

\setscript[hanzi]
\setupbodyfont[rm,11pt]

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Li Yanrui

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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 05.04.2009 um 17:16 schrieb Yanrui Li:

>>> I want to know why I can not override the preloading rm font.
>>
>> Dunno but it works for a complete definition.
>
> If I use other font size, it can work, such as:

It has to do with the default setting which is 12pt roman.

\appendtoks\letcsnamecs\csname*modern12ptrmtfrm*\endcsname\undefined\to 
\everystarttext

Wolfgang

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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> Am 05.04.2009 um 17:16 schrieb Yanrui Li:
> 
>>>> I want to know why I can not override the preloading rm font.
>>>
>>> Dunno but it works for a complete definition.
>>
>> If I use other font size, it can work, such as:
> 
> It has to do with the default setting which is 12pt roman.
> 
> \appendtoks\letcsnamecs\csname*modern12ptrmtfrm*\endcsname\undefined\to\everystarttext 

brrrr, better try

\setupbodyfont[reset]
\setupbodyfont[mymodern]


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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 05.04.2009 um 22:04 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Am 05.04.2009 um 17:16 schrieb Yanrui Li:
>>>>> I want to know why I can not override the preloading rm font.
>>>>
>>>> Dunno but it works for a complete definition.
>>>
>>> If I use other font size, it can work, such as:
>> It has to do with the default setting which is 12pt roman.
>> \appendtoks\letcsnamecs\csname*modern12ptrmtfrm*\endcsname\undefined 
>> \to\everystarttext
>
> brrrr, better try
>
> \setupbodyfont[reset]
> \setupbodyfont[mymodern]

Did not work because reset alone use the roman style also for italic  
and bold
and he don't use his own typeface, your dummy mymodern lead us back to  
the start.

Wolfgang

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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> Am 05.04.2009 um 22:04 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> 
>> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>> Am 05.04.2009 um 17:16 schrieb Yanrui Li:
>>>>>> I want to know why I can not override the preloading rm font.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dunno but it works for a complete definition.
>>>>
>>>> If I use other font size, it can work, such as:
>>> It has to do with the default setting which is 12pt roman.
>>> \appendtoks\letcsnamecs\csname*modern12ptrmtfrm*\endcsname\undefined\to\everystarttext 
>>>
>>
>> brrrr, better try
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[reset]
>> \setupbodyfont[mymodern]
> 
> Did not work because reset alone use the roman style also for italic and 
> bold
> and he don't use his own typeface, your dummy mymodern lead us back to 
> the start.

tricky ...

--mode=*nofonts

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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 05.04.2009 um 23:14 schrieb Hans Hagen:

>>> \setupbodyfont[reset]
>>> \setupbodyfont[mymodern]
>>
>> Did not work because reset alone use the roman style also for  
>> italic and bold
>> and he don't use his own typeface, your dummy mymodern lead us back  
>> to the start.
>
> tricky ...
>
> --mode=*nofonts

Not really, font switch but regular style only.

Wolfgang

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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Hans Hagen]

Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> Am 05.04.2009 um 23:14 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> 
>>>> \setupbodyfont[reset]
>>>> \setupbodyfont[mymodern]
>>>
>>> Did not work because reset alone use the roman style also for italic 
>>> and bold
>>> and he don't use his own typeface, your dummy mymodern lead us back 
>>> to the start.
>>
>> tricky ...
>>
>> --mode=*nofonts
> 
> Not really, font switch but regular style only.

sure, but i'm not too eager to add that kind of hackery so loading a new 
typeface then makes more sense

Hans


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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 05.04.2009 um 23:25 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> sure, but i'm not too eager to add that kind of hackery so loading a  
> new typeface then makes more sense

My hack can be done in a cleaner way with \appendtoks\letcsnamecs 
\csname\newfontidentifier\endcsname\undefined\to\everystarttext but a  
new typeface makes more sense in Li Yanrui's example as I can see.

Wolfgang

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Re: Why can not rm or rmtf fonts be set up by \definebodyfont macro?

[Yanrui Li]

2009/4/6 Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>:
>
> Am 05.04.2009 um 23:25 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
>> sure, but i'm not too eager to add that kind of hackery so loading a new
>> typeface then makes more sense
>
> My hack can be done in a cleaner way with
> \appendtoks\letcsnamecs\csname\newfontidentifier\endcsname\undefined\to\everystarttext
> but a new typeface makes more sense in Li Yanrui's example as I can see.
>

Thanks very much for your hints and Hans' tricky.

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Best wishes,
Li Yanrui

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