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From: Alexandre Christe <aleks.christe@gmail.com>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl, mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: [NTG-context] Re: Inline math spacing
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2023 06:43:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c4567b03-675c-4a07-9c8c-db54d89cebf1@Spark> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8f01ae8-a477-4365-aafd-ee99cc055bc9@xs4all.nl>


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Hi,

Here’s a MWE:

\setupinterlinespace[line=3ex]

\definefontfeature[default][default][lnum=yes,tnum=yes]
\usetypescriptfile[alegreya_libertinus]
\setupbodyfont[alegreya-light,ss,10pt]
\setupmathematics[autopunctuation={all}]

% math definitions
\enablemathautospacing % more global
% \enablemathautofencing % more global
\enablemathautonumbers % more global
% \autofences % more local

\usemodule[ipsum]

\starttext

\ipsum

\stoptext

And I attach the two files to setup the font.

A. Christe
Le 3 déc. 2023 à 22:44 +0100, Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>, a écrit :
> On 12/3/2023 10:31 PM, Alexandre Christe wrote:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I’m facing some strange spacing with inline maths. Sometimes the space
> > is ok (like around the first two fractions), but sometimes it is way too
> > little. Do I miss to configure something?
> your spacing is little between words too .. hard to tell without MWE
>
> Hans
>
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local common  = fonts.goodies.load("common-math.lfg")
local presets = common.mathematics.tweaks.presets

return {
    name = "libertinus-with-alegreya-math",
    version = "1.00",
    comment = "Goodies that complement libertinus.",
    author = "Hans Hagen & Mikael Sundqvist",
    copyright = "ConTeXt development team",
    mathematics = {
        parameters = {
            FractionRuleThickness     =   50,
            OverbarRuleThickness      =   50,
            UnderbarRuleThickness     =   50,
            AccentTopShiftUp          =  -35,
            FlattenedAccentTopShiftUp =  -35,
            AccentBaseDepth           =   10,
            DelimiterPercent          =   90,
            DelimiterShortfall        =  400,
            PrimeShiftUp              = "1.2*SuperscriptShiftUp",
            PrimeShiftUpCramped       = "1.2*SuperscriptShiftUp",
        },
        tweaks = {
            aftercopying = {
                {
                    tweak    = "version",
                    expected = "Version 7.040",
                },
                {
                    tweak = "addmirrors",
                },
                -- we have a weird middle integral piece
                {
                    tweak = "dimensions",
                    list  = {
                        [0x23AE] = { xoffset =  -.19 },
                    },
                },
                {
                    tweak = "fixintegrals",
                },
                presets.scripttocalligraphic { },
                presets.rsfstoscript         { rscale  = 0.97 },
                presets.rsfsuprighttoscript  { rscale  = 0.97 },
                presets.moderntocalligraphic { rscale  = 0.97 },
                presets.eulertocalligraphic  { rscale  = 0.97 },
                presets.xitsarabic           { rscale  = 0.85 },
                presets.fallbacks            { },
                presets.moveitalics          { correct = true },
                presets.moveitalics          { correct = true, letters = true },
                presets.moveintegrals        { factor = 1.5 },
                presets.wipeitalics          { },
                {
                    tweak = "simplifykerns",
                },
                {
                    tweak = "kerns",
                    list  = {
                        [0x002F]                = { topleft  = -0.15, bottomright = -0.15 },
                        ["0x7D.parts.top"]      = { topright = -0.2,                      }, -- right brace top
                        ["0x7D.parts.bottom"]   = {                   bottomright = -0.2  }, -- right brace bottom
                        ["0x29.parts.top"]      = { topright = -0.15,                     }, -- right parenthesis top
                        ["0x29.parts.bottom"]   = {                   bottomright = -0.15 }, -- right parenthesis bottom
                        ["0x29.variants.*"]     = { topright = -0.15, bottomright = -0.15 }, -- right parenthesis variants
                        ["0x221A.parts.top"]    = { topright =  0.2,                      }, -- right radical top
                        ["0x221A.parts.bottom"] = {                   bottomright =  0.2  }, -- right radical bottom
                        ["0x221A.variants.*"]   = { topright =  0.2,  bottomright =  0.2  }, -- right radical variants
                        [0x27E9]                = { topright = -0.1,  bottomright = -0.1  }, -- angle
                        ["0x27E9.variants.*"]   = { topright = -0.2,  bottomright = -0.2  },
                        [0x27EB]                = { topright = -0.1,  bottomright = -0.1  },
                        ["0x27EB.variants.*"]   = { topright = -0.2,  bottomright = -0.2  },
                        --
                        [0x00393] = { bottomright = -0.30, }, -- upright Gamma

                    },
                },
                -- Accents are a mess. We migrate the extensibles from the combiners to the base accent
                -- and then need to tweak the width (which is auto set because it was zero with a large
                -- accent anchor offset). First we copy and fix.
                {
                    tweak = "extendaccents",
                },
                {
                    tweak = "fixaccents",
                },
                -- First we set the dimensions of the initial accent which started out as zero but we want
                -- a proper width.
                -- {
                --     tweak = "dimensions",
                --     list  = {
                --         [0x00302] = { width = 1.8, anchor = 1.40, xoffset =  .20 }, -- widehat
                --         [0x00303] = { width = 2.0, anchor = 1.50, xoffset =  .30 }, -- widetilde
                --         [0x00306] = { width = 1.6, anchor = 1.30, xoffset =  .15 }, -- widebreve
                --         [0x0030C] = { width = 1.3, anchor = 1.15, xoffset = .075 }, -- widecheck
                --     },
                -- },
                -- Then we deal with all offsets and heights in one go. So we treat the initial accent
                -- as well as the variants here. None in libertinus.
                -- We now copy these to the not wide slots so that we can set these to stretch as well,
                -- if only because it is less confusing and more consistent.
                {
                    tweak = "copyaccents",
                },
                -- So far for the accents.
                {
                    tweak   = "radicaldegreeanchors",
                    list = {
                        [0x221A]                = { location = "left", hfactor  = .0, vfactor  = .625 },
                        ["0x221A.variants.*"]   = { location = "left", hfactor  = .0, vfactor  = .5 },
                        ["0x221A.variants.1"]   = { location = "left", hfactor  = .0, vfactor  = .55 },
                        ["0x221A.parts.bottom"] = { location = "left", hfactor  = .0, vfactor  = 1.15 },
                    }
                },
                {
                    tweak   = "fixprimes",
                    scale   = 1.5,
                 -- smaller = true,
                    factor  = 0.9,
                    fake    = 0.8,
                },
                {
                    tweak = "checkspacing",
                },
                {
                    tweak = "addscripts",
                },
                {
                    tweak = "accentdimensions",
                },
                {
                    tweak = "addrules",
                },
                {
                    tweak   = "addbars",
                    advance = 0.5,
                },
                {
                    tweak    = "replacerules",
                    minus    = {
                        height      = .176,
                        yoffset     = .825,
                        leftoffset  = .065,
                        rightoffset = .065,
                    },
                    fraction = {
                        height  = .176,
                        yoffset = .825,
                    },
                    radical  = {
                        height     = .140,
                        yoffset    = .800,
                        leftoffset = .075,
                        yscale     = .950,
                    },
                    stacker  = {
                        height  = .176,
                        yoffset = .825,
                    },
                },
                {
                    tweak = "addactuarian",
                },
                {
                    tweak = "addequals",
                },
                {
                    tweak = "addfourier",
                    variant = 1,
                },
                {
                    tweak = "addprimed",
                },
                {
                    -- needed for integrals (bad axis) and (less prominent) fences
                    tweak = "setoptions",
                    set   = { "ignorekerndimensions" }
                },
                -- this is the mkiv section
                {
                    tweak   = "emulatelmtx",
                    feature = "emulatelmtx",
                    comment = "this is for mkiv",
                },
            },
        },
        bigslots = {
            1, 3, 5, 7
        },
    },
}

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\starttypescriptcollection [alegreya_libertinus]

\usetypescriptfile[libertinus]
\loadfontgoodies[libertinus-with-alegreya-math]

\definefontfeature[alefeatures][
  mode=node,
  liga=yes,
  kern=yes,
  tlig=yes,
  ccmp=yes,
  language=dflt,
  protrusion=quality,
  expansion=quality
]

\starttypescript [sans] [alegreya,alegreya-light,alegreya-medium]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-Thin]             [file:AlegreyaSans-Thin]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-ThinItalic]       [file:AlegreyaSans-ThinItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-ThinCaps]         [file:AlegreyaSansSC-Thin]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-ThinItalicCaps]   [file:AlegreyaSansSC-ThinItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-Light]            [file:AlegreyaSans-Light]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-LightItalic]      [file:AlegreyaSans-LightItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-LightCaps]        [file:AlegreyaSansSC-Light]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-LightItalicCaps]  [file:AlegreyaSansSC-LightItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-Regular]          [file:AlegreyaSans-Regular]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-Italic]           [file:AlegreyaSans-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-Caps]             [file:AlegreyaSansSC-Regular]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-ItalicCaps]       [file:AlegreyaSansSC-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-Medium]           [file:AlegreyaSans-Medium]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-MediumItalic]     [file:AlegreyaSans-MediumItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-MediumCaps]       [file:AlegreyaSansSC-Medium]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-MediumItalicCaps] [file:AlegreyaSansSC-MediumItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-Bold]             [file:AlegreyaSans-Bold]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-BoldItalic]       [file:AlegreyaSans-BoldItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-BoldCaps]         [file:AlegreyaSansSC-Bold]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-BoldItalicCaps]   [file:AlegreyaSansSC-BoldItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-ExtraBold]        [file:AlegreyaSans-ExtraBold]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-ExtraBoldItalic]  [file:AlegreyaSans-ExtraBoldItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-ExtraBoldCaps]    [file:AlegreyaSansSC-ExtraBold]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-ExtraBoldItalicCaps][file:AlegreyaSansSC-ExtraBoldItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-Black]             [file:AlegreyaSans-Black]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-BlackItalic]       [file:AlegreyaSans-BlackItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-BlackCaps]         [file:AlegreyaSansSC-Black]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSans-BlackItalicCaps]   [file:AlegreyaSansSC-BlackItalic]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [alegreya]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSerif-Regular]         [file:Alegreya-Regular]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSerif-Italic]          [file:Alegreya-Italic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSerif-Caps]            [file:AlegreyaSC-Regular]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSerif-Bold]            [file:Alegreya-Bold]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSerif-BoldItalic]      [file:Alegreya-BoldItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSerif-BoldCaps]        [file:AlegreyaSC-Bold]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSerif-Black]           [file:Alegreya-Black]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSerif-BlackItalic]     [file:Alegreya-BlackItalic]
  \definefontsynonym[AlegreyaSerif-BlackCaps]       [file:AlegreyaSC-Black]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [alegreya,alegreya-light,alegreya-medium] [name]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [AlegreyaSans-Regular]     [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [AlegreyaSans-Italic]      [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSlanted]    [AlegreyaSans-Italic]      [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [AlegreyaSans-Bold]        [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [AlegreyaSans-BoldItalic]  [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldSlanted][AlegreyaSans-BoldItalic]  [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansCaps]       [AlegreyaSans-Caps]        [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansThin]         [AlegreyaSans-Thin]      [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansThinItalic]   [AlegreyaSans-ThinItalic][features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansThinSlanted]  [AlegreyaSans-ThinItalic][features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansThinCaps]     [AlegreyaSans-ThinCaps]  [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansLight]        [AlegreyaSans-Light]     [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansLightItalic]  [AlegreyaSans-LightItalic][features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansLightSlanted] [AlegreyaSans-LightItalic][features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansLightCaps]    [AlegreyaSans-LightCaps]  [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansMedium]       [AlegreyaSans-Medium]     [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansMediumItalic] [AlegreyaSans-MediumItalic][features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansMediumSlanted][AlegreyaSans-MediumItalic][features=alefeatures]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [alegreya-light] [name]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [AlegreyaSans-Light]         [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [AlegreyaSans-LightItalic]   [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSlanted]    [AlegreyaSans-LightItalic]   [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansCaps]       [AlegreyaSans-LightCaps]     [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [AlegreyaSans-Medium]        [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [AlegreyaSans-MediumItalic]  [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldSlanted][AlegreyaSans-MediumItalic]  [features=alefeatures]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [sans] [alegreya-medium] [name]
  \definefontsynonym [Sans]           [AlegreyaSans-Medium]         [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansItalic]     [AlegreyaSans-MediumItalic]   [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansSlanted]    [AlegreyaSans-MediumItalic]   [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansCaps]       [AlegreyaSans-MediumCaps]     [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBold]       [AlegreyaSans-ExtraBold]        [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [AlegreyaSans-ExtraBoldItalic]  [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SansBoldSlanted][AlegreyaSans-ExtraBoldItalic]  [features=alefeatures]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [serif] [alegreya] [name]
  \definefontsynonym [Serif]           [AlegreyaSerif-Regular]     [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic]     [AlegreyaSerif-Italic]      [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted]    [AlegreyaSerif-Italic]      [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBold]       [AlegreyaSerif-Bold]        [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [AlegreyaSerif-BoldItalic]  [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted][AlegreyaSerif-BoldItalic]  [features=alefeatures]
  \definefontsynonym [SerifCaps]       [AlegreyaSerif-Caps]        [features=alefeatures]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [mono] [overpass]
  \definefontsynonym[OverpassMono-Regular]     [file:overpass-mono-regular]
  \definefontsynonym[OverpassMono-Light]       [file:overpass-mono-light]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [mono] [overpass]  [name]
  \definefontsynonym [Mono]           [OverpassMono-Regular]     [features=]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [mono] [overpass-light]  [name]
  \definefontsynonym [Mono]           [OverpassMono-Light]     [features=]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [alegreya]
  \definetypeface [alegreya] [rm] [serif] [alegreya] [default]
  \definetypeface [alegreya] [ss] [sans]  [alegreya]  [default]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercaseitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercaseitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercasenormal,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercasenormal,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercasegreekitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercasegreekitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercasegreeknormal,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercasegreeknormal,force=yes]
  \definefontfeature[inlinemath][lnum=yes,pnum=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
    [preset=math:digitsnormal,features=inlinemath,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
    [preset=math:digitsbold,features=inlinemath,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
    [range=superscriptsandsubscripts,force=yes]
  \definefontfamily [alegreya] [math] [LibertinusMath] [goodies=libertinus-with-alegreya-math.lfg]
  \definefontfamily [alegreya] [tt] [overpass] [scale=0.9]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [alegreya-light]
  \definetypeface [alegreya-light] [rm] [serif] [alegreya] [default]
  \definetypeface [alegreya-light] [ss] [sans]  [alegreya-light]  [default]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercaseitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercaseitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercasenormal,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercasenormal,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercasegreekitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercasegreekitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercasegreeknormal,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercasegreeknormal,force=yes]
  \definefontfeature[inlinemath][lnum=yes,pnum=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
    [preset=math:digitsnormal,features=inlinemath,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
    [preset=math:digitsbold,features=inlinemath,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily [alegreya-light] [math] [Alegreya]
    [range=superscriptsandsubscripts,force=yes]
  \definefontfamily [alegreya-light] [math] [LibertinusMath] [goodies=libertinus-with-alegreya-math.lfg]
  \definefontfamily [alegreya-light] [tt] [overpass-light] [scale=0.9]
\stoptypescript

\starttypescript [alegreya-medium]
  \definetypeface [alegreya] [rm] [serif] [alegreya] [default]
  \definetypeface [alegreya] [ss] [sans]  [alegreya-medium]  [default]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercaseitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercaseitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercasenormal,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercasenormal,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercasegreekitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercasegreekitalic,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:lowercasegreeknormal,force=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily
       [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
       [preset=math:uppercasegreeknormal,force=yes]
  \definefontfeature[inlinemath][lnum=yes,pnum=yes]
  \definefallbackfamily [alegreya] [math] [Alegreya]
    [preset=math:digitsnormal,features=inlinemath,force=yes]
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2023-12-03 21:31 ` [NTG-context] " Alexandre Christe
2023-12-03 21:41   ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen
2023-12-04  5:43     ` Alexandre Christe [this message]
2023-12-04 13:08       ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2023-12-04 13:42         ` Alexandre Christe
2023-12-04 19:45           ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context

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