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From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: Re: Adjusting column width dynamically to get rid of orphans and widows
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:33:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c50457bd-d1a1-a0bc-5374-77d90168a745@wxs.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADf_Gt3t7FEW_4ix7oBU6TZjuo3e71NG_9WTtJgka_rj=gKX6g@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/20/2017 11:53 AM, Thomas Widmann wrote:
> On 20 June 2017 at 10:41, Henri Menke <henrimenke@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 2017-06-20 at 09:22 +0100, Thomas Widmann wrote:
>>>
>>> I recently started experimenting with using ConTeXt (mkiv) for dictionary typesetting. It's a much
>>> more attractive option than plain TeX or LaTeX because of the support for typesetting on a grid.
>>>
>>> However, grid typesetting can easily result in a large number of orphans and widows, which really
>>> doesn't look good in a dictionary.
>>>
>>> In an ideal world, I'd want to alter the column width slightly to prevent them (because most
>>> dictionaries aren't justified, this wouldn't be very noticeable).
>>>
>>> Would it be possible to use LuaTeX to achieve this?  I.e., could one write some code that gets
>>> triggered by orphans and widows and then alters the current column width slightly until the
>>> problem disappears?  Has somebody already done this?  Or have the relevant TeX internals not been
>>> Luafied yet?
>>>
>>> I'd also be interested in other ways to solve this issue – for instance changing the looseness
>>> dynamically instead of the column width.
>>
>> Have a look at \widowpenalty and \clubpenalty.  Also use margin kerning and font expansion.
> 
> \widowpenalty and \clubpenalty are almost useless in this context –
> believe me, I've tried! (I'm typesetting on a grid, with a fixed
> number of lines per page.) Which is why I'm looking for alternatives.
> 
> Margin kerning and font expansion are definitely options, but again,
> my real query would be how to trigger them dynamically to avoid a
> widow or an orphan.
can you make a small example showing the problem

Hans


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-20 19:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-20  8:22 Thomas Widmann
2017-06-20  9:41 ` Henri Menke
2017-06-20  9:53   ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-20 19:33     ` Hans Hagen [this message]
2017-06-23 13:21       ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-23 16:52         ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-24  0:19           ` Henri Menke
2017-06-24 14:48             ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-25 11:16               ` Hans Hagen
2017-06-26  9:31                 ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-28  9:16                   ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-28 11:04                     ` Hans Hagen
2017-06-28 11:20                       ` Thomas Widmann
2017-06-28 11:57                         ` Hans Hagen
2017-06-28 12:49                           ` Thomas Widmann
2017-07-03 15:50                             ` Thomas Widmann

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