From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/24136 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Knight Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: IPA/TIPA support in Context? Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 10:10:35 -0600 Message-ID: References: <4390099D.6060400@elvenkind.com> <43904BB0.3040500@wxs.nl> <43904FCB.3000100@comp.lancs.ac.uk> <439188F0.8020601@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133799065 15660 80.91.229.2 (5 Dec 2005 16:11:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 05 17:11:03 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EjIvP-0007Tr-V0 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:10:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F1301283E; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:10:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12990-09; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:10:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A0A12802; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:10:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE97812802 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:10:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12959-04 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:10:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.199]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A745B127F5 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:10:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so1073124nzh for ; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 08:10:35 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Yktuu5s3Iz5aTa3I4V+fl6hG+MpKTa7Mmvy8y5wNBmhmq5YIiwFeNr4ta5AwQIDQqn3EVr5wEP9TPFqwfAvwZgOyNhmj32MC83McQ/Eh61JKhqIzRgJkMd450m36N6L/UT9dSSh69KNn/Mf5eiRPNEiZP11B8fgklRC3B5obi1g= Original-Received: by 10.36.146.2 with SMTP id t2mr5409302nzd; Mon, 05 Dec 2005 08:10:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.36.10.5 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 08:10:35 -0800 (PST) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <439188F0.8020601@elvenkind.com> Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:24136 Archived-At: On 12/3/05, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > > > Perhaps this is a stupid question, but do we need more than some > > definitions in the Unicode encoding vectors and typescripts for some > > fonts? > > Is (T)IPA support about more than using some phonetic chars? > > Please enlighten me. > > AFAICT, there are: > > - 2 new font encodings needed (T3 and T3S), with associated > named characters > - a set of font definitions > - unicode tables (for utf input) need extension > - there are some macros in IPA for special input > > That's about it for the basic TIPA font support, I guess. > > For proper linguistic work, you need a large set of extra macros, > but those are not in the LaTeX tipa.sty either. > > Greetings, Taco > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > I've done some work with tipa under LaTeX as a beginning linguistics student, though I didn't get into the guts at the time. This threaed gets me thinking: how far away from "proper" is the tipa package under LaTeX? How much work is a "proper" implementation likely to be? I'm in some ways a beginner "under the hood", but I'm pretty motivated to get proper support in place. Taco, your list above includes some stuff I'm unfamiliar with (T3 encoding, macros for IPA input), so I don't know how extensive the work is likely to be. Which would be easier: scrap and re-write or adapt? -- Jason Knight Systems-Analyst-at-large "They fix 'em, I break 'em. Thus, analysis."