From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/118027 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carlos Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \showmakeup adds unwanted space despite accurate readings; \qquad mandatory before \TeX\ Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2023 13:05:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <4797d8f4-1355-16ff-1a9f-943673060d7d@xs4all.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12749"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Archived-At: Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces+gctc-ntg-context-518=m.gmane-mx.org@ntg.nl Wed Jul 05 19:08:55 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.202]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qH5zq-00033Y-Rz for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Jul 2023 19:08:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216D54826C4 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2023 19:06:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Original-Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EGSFRn1JQQbE for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2023 19:06:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from cgl.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5152C482513 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2023 19:06:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689DB482326 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2023 19:05:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Original-Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id S06mv3cSARpj for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2023 19:05:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io (ciao.gmane.io [116.202.254.214]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 509FC48231E for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2023 19:05:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qH5wl-0009Wa-0w for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Wed, 05 Jul 2023 19:05:43 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4797d8f4-1355-16ff-1a9f-943673060d7d@xs4all.nl> Message-ID-Hash: D5ADJLUOULHQHIPAIBR5KGET5GTYZTB5 X-Message-ID-Hash: D5ADJLUOULHQHIPAIBR5KGET5GTYZTB5 X-MailFrom: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.8 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.comp.tex.context:118027 Archived-At: On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 06:12:32PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 7/5/2023 5:53 PM, Carlos wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 05, 2023 at 04:43:56PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > > > On 7/5/2023 3:18 PM, Carlos wrote: > > > > \showmakeup on \TeX\ shows a > > > >=20 > > > > tSP:3.282 > > > > THK:-1.721 > > > > H__E > > > > X > > > > HK:-1.291 > > > > SP:3.282 > > >=20 > > > no MWE includes so clueless > >=20 > > \starttypescript[mylucidaserif] > > \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightRegular] [file:LucidaBrightRegular] > > \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightItalic] [file:LucidaBrightItalic] > > \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightDemiBold] [file:LucidaBrightDem= iBold] > > \definefontsynonym[LucidaBrightDemiItalic] [file:LucidaBrightDemiIta= lic] > > \stoptypescript > Hm, isn't that this lucida rip off again? Maybe bad metricks then but I'm > not going to look into that as the official TUG lucida opentype fonts > perform okay. >=20 > Hans Coincidentally speaking, a while ago (as a matter of fact this was last wee= k), I was reading about a heated discussion that happened a few decades ago in which you said: =ABi don't know the difference between input and font encoding and i don't know what tfm and afm files contain and what they are used for, and i don't know how to implement and use the right font /char handling macros etc etc; but i *do* know and listen when a user who actually uses some glyphs complains about something=BB And I don't want to stir up anything here either, but if the convention of using non-official vs official fonts is the new de facto under lmtx,=20 I guess my opening question is invalid by all acounts =20 >=20 >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to= the Wiki! >=20 > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-c= ontext > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ >=20 --=20 Help stamp out Mickey-Mouse computer interfaces -- Menus are for Restaurant= s! ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-con= text webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________