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From: Denis Maier via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Cc: denis.maier@unibe.ch
Subject: Re: Ibid. and idem support for bibliographies (and variable scope more generally)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 04:52:05 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5732d3025c64589be57772a8a490039@unibe.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGxRUG_oCUOuKA=V9Sy_H3Pr8-UQaS_JUDzQmaB9R5sFYah_xw@mail.gmail.com>

Cool.

I don't know about your particular solution, but will probably want to make sure to have different variables for citations in the main text and in the notes.

Denis



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Von: ntg-context <ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl> im Auftrag von Joey McCollum via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. September 2021 02:22:49
An: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Cc: Joey McCollum
Betreff: [NTG-context] Ibid. and idem support for bibliographies (and variable scope more generally)

Hi,

I've found a way to implement ibid. and idem support in the SBL specification under development at https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl (this e-mail essentially repeats my comments in https://github.com/jjmccollum/context-sbl/issues/5), but I'm not sure if my solution is a recommended way to solve the problem, and I'm curious about why the more straightforward approach doesn't work.

I've added useibid and useidem options for the \definebtx command (making them language-dependent by adding them to mult-def.lua, which seems to be how the other options have been implemented). Ideally, I'd like to follow the pattern of the chicago:list:sameauthor setup and use a macro similar to \btxdoifsameaspreviouselse. But since \btxdoifsameaspreviouselse relies on the indexed structure of the bibliographic list to determine what the "previous" entry is, it won't work for my purposes; I need to retrieve the tag of the last entry passed to the \cite command.

I ended up making this work by initializing a global variable via

```
\setxvariables[btx:sbl][previousinlinetag=\empty]
```

in the publ-imp-sbl.mkvi file, resetting it at the end of each citation via

```
\setxvariables[btx:sbl][previousinlinetag=\currentbtxtag]
```

and checking it in the appropriate places via

```
getvariable{btx:sbl}{previousinlinetag}
```

I initially tried to do this with a simple macro \btx_sbl_previousinlinetag defined in publ-imp-sbl.mkvi (in the same scope as the rest of the specification), but attempting to reset it in the cite setups with \let or \def didn't work. Why doesn't this work? Is the setup for a cite alternative executed in its own scope in a way that would prevent me from updating a variable defined in the scope of the rendering specification? And is there a way to do this that is preferable to using global variables?

Thanks!

Joey
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-21  4:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-21  0:22 Joey McCollum via ntg-context
2021-09-21  4:52 ` Denis Maier via ntg-context [this message]
2021-09-21 15:16   ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
2021-09-21 15:55     ` Denis Maier via ntg-context
2021-09-21 16:45       ` Joey McCollum via ntg-context
2021-09-21 17:04         ` Denis Maier via ntg-context

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