From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/116009 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: missing space with French quotation Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:21:15 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87k05wln97.fsf@a16n.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8157965190850987742==" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16426"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.11.0 Cc: Jean-Pierre Delange To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Sep 22 10:22:00 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from zapf.boekplan.nl ([5.39.185.232] helo=zapf.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1obHT5-00043L-St for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:21:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94428360D35; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:21:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JEeq35hovbGq; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:21:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2D5360C79; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:21:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96274360C5D for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:21:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jS2OU3tKKcqF for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:21:17 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=212.27.42.6; helo=smtp6-g21.free.fr; envelope-from=adeimantos@free.fr; receiver= Original-Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (smtp6-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC62E360C26 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:21:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [IPV6:2a01:e0a:247:5030:71ba:3e1d:fbb:e225] (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:247:5030:71ba:3e1d:fbb:e225]) (Authenticated sender: adeimantos@free.fr) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0E181780304 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2022 10:21:16 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=free.fr; s=smtp-20201208; t=1663834877; bh=OqBLmLY7dieOakpS+7kYLRu18miTy/5+IgXn3ZTVdvM=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=W1qeeOc057/x3u+EvjEcKSyeeD3HJePolSHchENFUhivLW+hFGFMCBtSO4cHbER37 CzuR7iyDDu7QeELaqv/uF4hBjo8pxxIqwsAI4+ZMCA27rSjZX5CsbbaZdOXial21+W rcQttXZqTiM4MbtVZat0+N0l/6xNKrTRbRAqSNTCkpX/FTLt0/u0mTvz8L3V0ePIF5 YLBtO+M0DXA3zKmLWup5O+a3942WsjMyITG3CHFWuDFZNdrK6b6B1GMkr5s28kXJY7 S6D6IVtFS4dzlvMoWS/+GC0CdQp3HHhh5cvi2+nps/IhsmmFBX2su5wh8LSm7LZNCk xfPX9AD0gr+EA== Content-Language: fr-FR In-Reply-To: <87k05wln97.fsf@a16n.net> X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.comp.tex.context:116009 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8157965190850987742== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------taTwqv277wCcB4XsUCoYbzVY" Content-Language: fr-FR This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------taTwqv277wCcB4XsUCoYbzVY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Peter, I know that's not the expected answer and I'm sorry about that. But why use \startquotation when \quotation{something} does the job just fine? I've looked to replicate your MWE and for my part, there's just a space missing at the end of the quote before the last quote (but I'm working with an older version of CTX). To get the quote indented, instead of \startquotation, I use the command \startnarrower and \stopnarrower. What about something like this : \mainlanguage[fr] \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] \starttext bla \quotation{Que d'hommes entre Dieu et moi !} bla\\ bla «OK» bla \startnarrower \quotation{\tfx{On cherche à mieux cerner les effets des commandes de \ConTeXt sur les citations et les espaces entre les guillemets}} \stopnarrower \stoptext Sorry if my answer is not very helpful ! JP Le 21/09/2022 à 18:12, Peter Münster via ntg-context a écrit : > Hi, > > With the latest ConTeXt version, there is a missing space: > > \mainlanguage[fr] > \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] > \starttext > bla \quotation{OK} bla\\ > bla «OK» bla > \startquotation > Here is missing space > \stopquotation > \stoptext > > How could I get back the space before "»" please? > > TIA for any help, -- Jean-Pierre Delange Agrégé de philosophie Ancients&Moderns "Few discoveries are more irritating than those which expose the pedigree of ideas" - Lord Acton --------------taTwqv277wCcB4XsUCoYbzVY Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hi Peter,

I know that's not the expected answer and I'm sorry about that. But why use \startquotation when \quotation{something} does the job just fine?

I've looked to replicate your MWE and for my part, there's just a space missing at the end of the quote before the last quote (but I'm working with an older version of CTX). To get the quote indented, instead of \startquotation, I use the command \startnarrower and \stopnarrower.

What about something like this :

\mainlanguage[fr] \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]

\starttext bla \quotation{Que d'hommes entre Dieu et moi !} bla\\ bla «OK» bla

\startnarrower

\quotation{\tfx{On cherche à mieux cerner les effets des commandes de \ConTeXt sur les citations et les espaces entre les guillemets}}

\stopnarrower

\stoptext


Sorry if my answer is not very helpful !

JP




Le 21/09/2022 à 18:12, Peter Münster via ntg-context a écrit :
Hi,

With the latest ConTeXt version, there is a missing space:

\mainlanguage[fr]
\setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation]
\starttext
bla \quotation{OK} bla\\
bla «OK» bla
\startquotation
  Here is missing space
\stopquotation
\stoptext

How could I get back the space before "»" please?

TIA for any help,
-- 
Jean-Pierre Delange
Agrégé de philosophie
Ancients&Moderns
"Few discoveries are more irritating than those which expose the pedigree of ideas" - Lord Acton
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