From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/17986 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mikael Persson Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Russia (cyrillic letters) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:38:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <41F41B8D.20908@wxs.nl> <41F6615C.9070001@wxs.nl> <41F761B4.4060102@wxs.nl> Reply-To: Mikael Persson , mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1106775545 18310 80.91.229.6 (26 Jan 2005 21:39:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 21:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jan 26 22:38:58 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CtusM-0003bW-00 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:38:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5307B127C1; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:38:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11147-02; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:38:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A39BB1278D; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:38:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBF61278D for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:38:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11008-05 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:38:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8322C1278B for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:38:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so221911wri for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:38:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=A0FO/NA3SIulAE6ZDnLanRhnwksbsUBV2VJ7URzi/RxJ844RFqi+uOBsoR3Fp8/u7o5VhP2Xz7BOUpT76Q8mtfqflmQuQowaC6Hwh+DSSIq1AEr6czyfbFM67dkDtTn/4zBCg6hAr9x7WwJ2DmspUxJ/FptFLhYdKtLAQZ3lH4A= Original-Received: by 10.54.31.70 with SMTP id e70mr175178wre; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:38:50 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.54.40.40 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:38:50 -0800 (PST) Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: <41F761B4.4060102@wxs.nl> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:17986 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:17986 On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:24:04 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > Mikael Persson wrote: > > > http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/russian/ > > it looks like russian indeed > > are all those fonts in the cmsuper path useful? Hm, I don't think so. But that is a question for everyone to consider. However, if you ask me I would be happy to have (snipped from the README file): rm: Computer Modern Roman sl: Computer Modern Slanted ti: Computer Modern Italic cc: Computer Modern Caps and Small Caps ui: Computer Modern Unslanted Italic sc: Computer Modern Slanted Caps and Small Caps ci: Computer Modern Classical Serif Italic bx: Computer Modern Bold Extended bl: Computer Modern Bold Extended Slanted bi: Computer Modern Bold Extended Italic xc: Computer Modern Bold Extended Caps and Small Caps oc: Computer Modern Bold Extended Slanted Caps and Small Caps rb: Computer Modern Roman Bold bm: Computer Modern Roman Bold Variant ss: Computer Modern Sans Serif si: Computer Modern Sans Serif Slanted sx: Computer Modern Sans Serif Bold Extended so: Computer Modern Sans Serif Bold Extended Slanted tt: Computer Modern Typewriter st: Computer Modern Typewriter Slanted it: Computer Modern Typewriter Italic tc: Computer Modern Typewriter Caps and Small Caps vt: Computer Modern Variable Width Typewriter vi: Computer Modern Variable Width Typewriter Italic "Each font shape comes in 14 font sizes ranging from 5pt to 35.83pt (or 11 font sizes for typewriter fonts ranging from 8pt to 35.83pt)." I don't think all sizes are necessary. and moreover it would be nice to have sform5 .. sform10: Computer Modern Concrete Roman sfosl5 .. sfosl10: Computer Modern Concrete Slanted sfoti10: Computer Modern Concrete Italic sfocc10: Computer Modern Concrete Caps and Small Caps (maybe not all sizes here either) and sfbmr{8,9,10,17}: Computer Modern Bright Roman sfbmo{8,9,10,17}: Computer Modern Bright Oblique sfbsr{8,9,10,17}: Computer Modern Bright Semibold sfbso{8,9,10,17}: Computer Modern Bright Semibold Oblique sfbbx10: Computer Modern Bright Bold Extended sfbtl10: Computer Modern Typewriter Light sfbto10: Computer Modern Typewriter Light Oblique Hm, well, this is all but ~18 (times 13 or 14 sizes)... so maybe it is worth to have them all? What do one loose? speed? work? If work, then I am ready to write what shall be written if you only show me for one font. About the encodings: According to my russian friend koi8-r is the most common now, but utf is coming more and more. This is what one person said, so if someone else think it is different, they may very well be right (my friend is mostly TeX:ing on UNIX systems, and from what I read from search results, the koi8r and koi8-r (which seems to be the same?) are mostly used on UNIX and www. So maybe the windows 1521 encoding is still used by Windows users?) However, I can't get it working with koi8-r. It works in LaTeX (tried with the russian "Not so short introduction to LaTeX" document, and it seemed to use t2a and koi8-r). Under ConTeXt, the document I try (the rexample.tex saved in koi8-r instead of windows 1521) compiles, I get russian letters, but the letters are at wrong places. I am using \enableregime[koi8-r], and saving the document in koi8-r encoding. Is there anything else I should do? I also thought more about the utf. Is there anyway, now, to use utf8 encoding of the file, and somehow (from enco-uc.tex or how it would work) get the russian letters (that is for example \uchar4{"11} to be \cyrillicB, as it is written in enco-uc.tex and then from that get the right letter)? Micke P