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From: "Mikael Persson" <mickep@gmail.com>
To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:45:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5fddde00809280845k238b6e04xd01e78c2f2798ae4@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.00.0809271150170.8962@nqv-yncgbc>

Wow, that looks very nice!

I hope you do not feel I am stealing your thread now (I do not mean
to). I did also finish my thesis (in mathematics) recently, written
"in ConTeXt". For this I had a lot of help with your doc "Using
\startalign and friends", thank you.

The thesis is available at

http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/mp-thesis-final.pdf

and a short presentation of the third paper

http://www.math.chalmers.se/~mickep/pres.pdf

Some comments:
* At our university the thesis should be printed on the (not really
standard) G5 paper. No problem in defining and using it with ConTeXt.
* The bibliography uses Taco's module. I am happy of being able to
have different bibliographies in one file.
* As a mathematician I was a bit tired of the computer modern fonts (I
really like them, but I see them to often), so I decided to go with
the utopia/fourier fonts. This forced me to work with mkii, since I
did not get these fonts to work with mkiv (This is still a problem, I
am not sure how to go on with it for future documents).
* Typesetting math worked very smoothly. There is one place where I
hade to add some negative vertical space (I could not reproduce this
in a minimal file).
* I'm very happy with the way MetaPost and ConTeXt work together.
* The presentation is inspired by Thomas A. Schmitz' files at
http://www.tug.org/pracjourn/2006-2/schmitz/ (thanks!)
* The presentation uses Wolfram's Mathematica fonts which I find being
very clear.

I will happily continue to use ConTeXt in future projects.

/Micke P

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I finished my thesis, writing both my thesis and my presentation using
> ConTeXt.
>
> Thesis: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.pdf
>
> Source:
> http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis.tar.gz
>
> Presentation:
> http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~adityam/publications/thesis/thesis-presentation.pdf
>
> Overall it was a pleasant experience, but there were some difficulties. I
> am summarizing my experience here. Hopefully, others will find it useful.
>
> * Layout and Formatting: It was extremely simple to set up the layout and
> formatting according to the thesis specifications. Due to the ease of
> changing formatting, I experimented quite a bit with the formatting before
> settling down to what is in the thesis (The school wanted "nothing
> fancy").
>
> * Organizing large projects: The product-component structure made it easy
> to work on single chapters. However, I could not get correct numbering for
> the components (If I compiled chapter-02, it got numbered 1). In the end,
> I was just compiling the whole thesis at the time, since it was pretty
> fast (~10 sec).
>
> * Fonts: Using different fonts with MKIV was really easy. For the
> presentation, I did have some trouble in getting Euler to work with the
> minimals. Hopefully, this will be corrected soon.
>
> * Math: The math alignments worked very nicely, but I had to do a lot of
> manual tweaking at a lot of places. Also, equations seem to like to have a
> tendency of starting on a new page. I tried changing penalties for
> predisplay and postdisplay (which are set to zero), but it invariably led
> to bad page breaks at other places.
>
>  At some places, the equation overlapped with the previous material. I am
> not sure what was causing this (medium interline spacing, wrong
> calculation of the width of the previous line, or something else). In the
> end, I simply put a few manual \break[small] here and there.
>
>  Being able to write unicode math made simplified reading math markup.
>
> * Metapost: TeX-MP interaction is fast and easy. However, debugging
> metapost errors is difficult because context does not stop compiling on
> encountering a metapost error.
>
> * Bibliography. For a large part, the bib module was very easy. In the
> end, there were a few glitches with the formatting of the bibliography
> (too title space between entries) which I had to manually correct. (Look
> for \help inside the bbl file).
>
>  The bbl file sorted authors with multiple entries incorrectly. If I had
> authors with four publications in a year, say 2000, the came out as 2000d,
> 2000c, 2000b, 2000a. I wanted 2000a, 2000b, 2000c, and 2000d, so in the
> end I just edited the bbl file by hand.
>
>  There was also problem with maybe year. If I had 2000a and 2000b in the
> bib file, but only referred to 2000b in the thesis, the year came out as
> 2000b rather than 2000. For this also, I edited the bbl file by hand.
>
>
> Overall, ConTeXt made writing the thesis fairly easy. I mean the
> typesetting part of it. For those who are wondering, ConTeXt does not help
> with the content of the thesis :-) I would like to thank Hans and Taco for
> providing ConTeXt and everyone on the mailing list for answering my
> various questions.
>
>
> Aditya
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-28 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-27 16:35 Aditya Mahajan
2008-09-28 13:59 ` Hans Hagen
2008-09-28 15:45 ` Mikael Persson [this message]
2008-09-28 18:23   ` Hans Hagen
2008-09-28 19:06     ` Mikael Persson
2008-09-28 19:21       ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-09-28 19:34         ` Utopia and Fourier fonts (was: Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV) Wolfgang Schuster
2008-09-29  9:31           ` Mikael Persson
2008-09-29  9:56             ` Utopia and Fourier fonts Wolfgang Schuster
2008-09-29 13:34               ` Mikael Persson
2008-09-29 13:49                 ` Mojca Miklavec
2008-09-29 18:35               ` Mikael Persson
2008-09-29 20:22                 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-09-30  6:43                   ` Mikael Persson
2008-10-01 15:43                     ` Mikael Persson
2008-09-29  9:26     ` Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV Mikael Persson
2008-09-28 17:34 ` Mohamed Bana
2008-09-28 18:16   ` Listings (was: Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV) Wolfgang Schuster
2008-09-28 20:42     ` Listings Mohamed Bana
2008-09-28 21:23       ` Listings Wolfgang Schuster
2008-09-28 22:04         ` Listings Wolfgang Schuster
2008-09-30 16:37     ` Listings (was: Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV) Chen Shen
2008-09-30 17:15       ` Wolfgang Schuster
2008-10-01  3:44         ` Chen Shen
2008-10-02 17:38           ` Chen Shen
2008-09-30 20:35       ` Listings Hans Hagen
2008-10-02 21:27     ` Listings Mohamed Bana
2008-10-03  5:49       ` Listings Peter Münster
2008-10-04  1:11         ` Listings Mojca Miklavec
2008-12-07  2:28 ` Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV Mohamed Bana
2008-12-07  2:50   ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-12-08 23:19     ` Mohamed Bana
2008-12-09  0:40       ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-12-09  1:22         ` Sorting bug in context-alpha (was: Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV) Aditya Mahajan
2008-12-09  2:59         ` Experience on writing a thesis with MKIV Mohamed Bana
2008-12-09  3:26           ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-12-09 18:17             ` Mohamed Bana
2008-12-09 19:36               ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-12-09 21:23                 ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-12-09 21:49                   ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-12-10  9:24                     ` Taco Hoekwater
2008-12-11  2:20                     ` Mohamed Bana
2008-12-11  3:17                       ` Aditya Mahajan
2008-12-15  3:52                         ` Mohamed Bana
2008-12-09 14:18           ` Mojca Miklavec

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