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I forgot to write that I am ready to answer your questions.

(En Esperanto one avoids to write the= dates as numbers, because the users do not all understand the same way: 3/9/2021 is it third of September or ninth of March?)

Alain

Le 22/02/2021 =C3=A0 17:26, Tomas Hala= a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
Hi Alain,

in my email, I used official language codes: be=3DBelarussian, bg=3DBulga=
rian, sr=3DSerbian.

The \installlanguage command is very important because it contains
definitions of the most frequently used typographic elements of the=20
given language, for details see below.

Looking forward for both lang-txt files. The sooner you will send it, the=
 better.

The best,

Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1

Mon, Feb 22, 2021 ve 03:01:41PM +0100 Alain Delmotte napsal(a):
#    Hi Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1,
#=20
#    Thanks for your message.
#=20
#    First which country is "be"? If Belgium, pay attention that there ar=
e
#    three languages: Dutch (Flemish) French (a little bit different from=

#    France French) and German (1% of the population).
#=20
#    Could you explain me the meaning of:
#=20
#    Le 21/02/2021 =C3=A0 23:48, Tomas Hala a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
#=20
#  And this one is also needed:
#=20
#  #      \installlanguage
#  #      =C2=A0 [\s!esperanto]
#  #      =C2=A0 [\c!spacing=3D\v!packed,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 %\c!leftsentence=3D\emdash,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 %\c!rightsentence=3D\emdash,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 %\c!leftsubsentence=3D\emdash,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 %\c!rightsubsentence=3D\emdash,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 %\c!leftquote=3D\lowerleftdoubleninequote,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 %\c!rightquote=3D\upperrightdoublesixquote,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 %\c!leftquotation=3D\lowerleftdoubleninequote,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 %\c!rightquotation=3D\upperrightdoublesixquote,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 %\c!date=3D{\v!year,~m.,\space,\v!month,\space,\v!=
day,~d.},
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 \s!patterns=3Deo,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 \s!lefthyphenmin=3D2,
#  #      =C2=A0=C2=A0 \s!righthyphenmin=3D2]

Values for \installlanguage:

* spacing: packed means no difference between interword and intersentence=
 spaces.
* (left|right)sentence: punctuation marks -- very often dashes -- for inc=
luded parts in some sentences.
* (left|right)quotation: definition of primary quotation marks.=20
* (left|right)quote: definition of secondary (nested) quotation marks.
* (left|right)hyphenmin: number of characters at the end of a line and at=
 the beginning of the next line when the word is hyphenated.
* date: how the date should be typically typeset: order, spacing, or othe=
r signs or abbreviation or texts.

Those I do not know for eo, have been marked with a percent sign.

#    I have seen that the \lowerleftdoubleninequote,... are sometimes giv=
en by
#    the character itself =E2=80=9C =E2=80=9D,...
#    For the date, is it the order of the part of the date yyy mm dd?
#=20
#    I did prepare the file lang-txt.lua and did send it to two friends f=
or
#    checking, I wait for their answer (I hope not to long).
#=20
#    I also have the pattern for hyphenation, the one from TeXLive uses
#    fonctions to shorten the length of the file.
#=20
#    For French, I'll do it and send it to you.
#=20
#    Thanks for taking care of this.
#=20
#      Regards,
#=20
#    Alain
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