* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV [not found] <mailman.1.1602669601.31579.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2020-10-14 10:47 ` Niels Meijer 2020-10-14 13:33 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2020-10-15 3:43 ` Joaquín Ataz López 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Niels Meijer @ 2020-10-14 10:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 663 bytes --] Hello Joaquín, I have been looking to get into ConTeXt for a few months now, LaTeX drove me completely insane when writing my Master’s thesis. I have been looking for an up-to-date introduction to ConTeXt as a whole, as I am still unable to get basic things working in ConTeXt after reading the ‘Excursion’. (I really tried to the best of my ability!) I just wanted to voice my support this book, as I feel that such a newbie-friendly resource would fill a gaping hole in the current ConTeXt ecosystem. I am considering having a stab at learning Spanish in order to (attempt to) read your book. Thanks for sharing, Niels E. J. Meijer [-- Attachment #1.1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4834 bytes --] [-- Attachment #1.2: smime.p7s --] [-- Type: application/pkcs7-signature, Size: 4217 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 10:47 ` A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV Niels Meijer @ 2020-10-14 13:33 ` Henning Hraban Ramm 2020-10-15 3:48 ` Joaquín Ataz López 2020-10-15 3:43 ` Joaquín Ataz López 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-10-14 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users > Am 14.10.2020 um 12:47 schrieb Niels Meijer <niels.meijer@biochemistry.lu.se>: > > I just wanted to voice my support this book, as I feel that such a > newbie-friendly resource would fill a gaping hole in the current ConTeXt > ecosystem. I am considering having a stab at learning Spanish in order to > (attempt to) read your book. Are you more comfortable with German? While I still don’t know when my ConTeXt book is ready for publishing, I can show you the current state (>280 p.). Hraban ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 13:33 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-10-15 3:48 ` Joaquín Ataz López 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-15 3:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context El 14/10/20 a las 15:33, Henning Hraban Ramm escribió: >> Am 14.10.2020 um 12:47 schrieb Niels Meijer <niels.meijer@biochemistry.lu.se>: >> >> I just wanted to voice my support this book, as I feel that such a >> newbie-friendly resource would fill a gaping hole in the current ConTeXt >> ecosystem. I am considering having a stab at learning Spanish in order to >> (attempt to) read your book. > Are you more comfortable with German? > > While I still don’t know when my ConTeXt book is ready for publishing, I can show you the current state (>280 p.). No, I'm very sorry. My level of German only allows me to defend myself a little in my professional specialty (private law) which has nothing to do with this subject. I would love to have access to your book, although I suspect that if it is in German it will be difficult for me to follow it. > > Hraban > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ -- Joaquín Ataz López Derecho Civil Universidad de Murcia ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 10:47 ` A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV Niels Meijer 2020-10-14 13:33 ` Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-10-15 3:43 ` Joaquín Ataz López 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-15 3:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1602 bytes --] El 14/10/20 a las 12:47, Niels Meijer escribió: > Hello Joaquín, > > > I have been looking to get into ConTeXt for a few months now, LaTeX > drove me > completely insane when writing my Master’s thesis. I have been looking > for an > up-to-date introduction to ConTeXt as a whole, as I am still unable to get > basic things working in ConTeXt after reading the ‘Excursion’. (I really > tried to the best of my ability!) I also believe that maintaining up-to-date documentation is important. Although in a system as dynamic as ConTeXt I think it is very difficult to achieve this; and it is probably more up to us users than to the developers. That's why my initiative > > I just wanted to voice my support this book, as I feel that such a > newbie-friendly resource would fill a gaping hole in the current ConTeXt > ecosystem. I am considering having a stab at learning Spanish in order to > (attempt to) read your book. Thank you very much, it is very kind of you. > > > Thanks for sharing, > > Niels E. J. Meijer > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ -- Joaquín Ataz López Derecho Civil Universidad de Murcia [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 7606 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV [not found] <mailman.1685.1602689765.1164.ntg-context@ntg.nl> @ 2020-10-14 17:53 ` Niels Meijer 2020-10-15 3:50 ` Joaquín Ataz López 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Niels Meijer @ 2020-10-14 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 421 bytes --] Hi Hraban, I have an (old) Goethe-Zertifikat B1, which is not great (but better than my Spanish!). if you’re comfortable sharing your manuscript with me, I can definitely try to go through it and give you some feedback if you’d like! I am not sure how useful this would be for you, but I would appreciate it a lot. I feel I should’ve told this list about my struggles earlier on! Kind regards, Niels [-- Attachment #1.2: smime.p7s --] [-- Type: application/pkcs7-signature, Size: 4217 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 17:53 ` Niels Meijer @ 2020-10-15 3:50 ` Joaquín Ataz López 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-15 3:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Of course, thank you very much. I send you the source files separately, to your own mail. El 14/10/20 a las 19:53, Niels Meijer escribió: > I have an (old) Goethe-Zertifikat B1, which is not great (but better than my Spanish!). if you’re comfortable sharing your manuscript with me, I can definitely try to go through it and give you some feedback if you’d like! I am not sure how useful this would be for you, but I would appreciate it a lot. > > I feel I should’ve told this list about my struggles earlier on! -- Joaquín Ataz López Derecho Civil Universidad de Murcia ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV @ 2020-10-14 4:27 Joaquín Ataz López 2020-10-14 5:27 ` Jairo A. del Rio ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-14 4:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Sorry. By mistake I sent the message as a reply to another one, when in fact I was trying to start a new thread with it. I'm sending it again (I think I'll do it right now): --------------------------------------------- Good morning to everyone. Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list members, I wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV in Spanish, which can be downloaded at https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An Introduction (not too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV". ConTeXt is a wonderful document composition system, but there is not much literature to help you get into it, hence my initiative. The problem is that I've only been using ConTeXt for a short time and still have many doubts, so it's possible that the introduction may contain errors. As it has been written in Spanish I don't think many of you will be able to read it, but I would appreciate, of course, any suggestions for improvement. The document is, on the other hand, free and anyone who wants to include it in any ConTeXt distribution can, of course, do so. Also, if anyone wants the source files, I have no problem providing them. I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for beginners a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable. Finally, I apologize for my bad English level. I read it reasonably well, but expressing myself in it is much harder for me. -- Joaquín Ataz López Derecho Civil Universidad de Murcia ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 4:27 Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-14 5:27 ` Jairo A. del Rio 2020-10-15 3:37 ` Joaquín Ataz López 2020-10-14 6:23 ` Jan U. Hasecke ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Jairo A. del Rio @ 2020-10-14 5:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2794 bytes --] Hi, Joaquín. I've just found your introduction yesterday and I have to say it is a pleasure to read it. I can help you with some areas you haven't discussed too much, e.g. Lua interfaces and Metapost (well, I'm not as skilled as Aditya or Hans in the latter), as I use it often. I'll send you a message later so we can communicate in Spanish :) Thank you a lot for you effort. I hope more Spanish users put a bit of their expertise on your manual and further documentation for such a great software as ConTeXt. Muchas gracias y saludos cordiales, Jairo :D El mar., 13 de oct. de 2020 11:27 p. m., Joaquín Ataz López <jal@um.es> escribió: > Sorry. By mistake I sent the message as a reply to another one, when in > fact I was trying to start a new thread with it. I'm sending it again (I > think I'll do it right now): > > --------------------------------------------- > > Good morning to everyone. > > Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list members, > I wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to ConTeXt > Mark IV in Spanish, which can be downloaded at > https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An Introduction > (not too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV". > > ConTeXt is a wonderful document composition system, but there is not > much literature to help you get into it, hence my initiative. The > problem is that I've only been using ConTeXt for a short time and still > have many doubts, so it's possible that the introduction may contain > errors. As it has been written in Spanish I don't think many of you will > be able to read it, but I would appreciate, of course, any suggestions > for improvement. The document is, on the other hand, free and anyone who > wants to include it in any ConTeXt distribution can, of course, do so. > Also, if anyone wants the source files, I have no problem providing them. > > I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for > beginners a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable. > > Finally, I apologize for my bad English level. I read it reasonably > well, but expressing myself in it is much harder for me. > > -- > Joaquín Ataz López > Derecho Civil > Universidad de Murcia > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4042 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 5:27 ` Jairo A. del Rio @ 2020-10-15 3:37 ` Joaquín Ataz López 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-15 3:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3897 bytes --] Thank you very much. This is an offer that I accept, although, if it's not a bother, from next month, because the next two weeks I will be tremendously busy with my university work, which has nothing to do with typography or text composition. El 14/10/20 a las 7:27, Jairo A. del Rio escribió: > Hi, Joaquín. > > I've just found your introduction yesterday and I have to say it is a > pleasure to read it. I can help you with some areas you haven't > discussed too much, e.g. Lua interfaces and Metapost (well, I'm not as > skilled as Aditya or Hans in the latter), as I use it often. I'll send > you a message later so we can communicate in Spanish :) > Thank you a lot for you effort. I hope more Spanish users put a bit of > their expertise on your manual and further documentation for such a > great software as ConTeXt. > > Muchas gracias y saludos cordiales, > Jairo :D > > El mar., 13 de oct. de 2020 11:27 p. m., Joaquín Ataz López <jal@um.es > <mailto:jal@um.es>> escribió: > > Sorry. By mistake I sent the message as a reply to another one, > when in > fact I was trying to start a new thread with it. I'm sending it > again (I > think I'll do it right now): > > --------------------------------------------- > > Good morning to everyone. > > Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list > members, > I wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to > ConTeXt > Mark IV in Spanish, which can be downloaded at > https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An > Introduction > (not too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV". > > ConTeXt is a wonderful document composition system, but there is not > much literature to help you get into it, hence my initiative. The > problem is that I've only been using ConTeXt for a short time and > still > have many doubts, so it's possible that the introduction may contain > errors. As it has been written in Spanish I don't think many of > you will > be able to read it, but I would appreciate, of course, any > suggestions > for improvement. The document is, on the other hand, free and > anyone who > wants to include it in any ConTeXt distribution can, of course, do > so. > Also, if anyone wants the source files, I have no problem > providing them. > > I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for > beginners a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable. > > Finally, I apologize for my bad English level. I read it reasonably > well, but expressing myself in it is much harder for me. > > -- > Joaquín Ataz López > Derecho Civil > Universidad de Murcia > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl <mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl> / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ -- Joaquín Ataz López Derecho Civil Universidad de Murcia [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 7055 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 4:27 Joaquín Ataz López 2020-10-14 5:27 ` Jairo A. del Rio @ 2020-10-14 6:23 ` Jan U. Hasecke 2020-10-14 9:51 ` Rudolf Bahr 2020-10-15 21:25 ` Willi Egger 3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Jan U. Hasecke @ 2020-10-14 6:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hola Joaquín, On 14.10.20 06:27, Joaquín Ataz López wrote: > Its title is "An Introduction (not too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV". what a great introduction! And just another hint for me to improve my Spanish. ;-) Jan Ulrich Hasecke ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 4:27 Joaquín Ataz López 2020-10-14 5:27 ` Jairo A. del Rio 2020-10-14 6:23 ` Jan U. Hasecke @ 2020-10-14 9:51 ` Rudolf Bahr 2020-10-15 3:39 ` Joaquín Ataz López 2020-10-15 21:25 ` Willi Egger 3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Rudolf Bahr @ 2020-10-14 9:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 06:27:30AM +0200, Joaquín Ataz López wrote: > Sorry. By mistake I sent the message as a reply to another one, when in fact > I was trying to start a new thread with it. I'm sending it again (I think > I'll do it right now): > > --------------------------------------------- > > Good morning to everyone. > > Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list members, I > wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV > in Spanish, which can be downloaded at > https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An Introduction (not > too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV". > > ConTeXt is a wonderful document composition system, but there is not much > literature to help you get into it, hence my initiative. The problem is that > I've only been using ConTeXt for a short time and still have many doubts, so > it's possible that the introduction may contain errors. As it has been > written in Spanish I don't think many of you will be able to read it, but I > would appreciate, of course, any suggestions for improvement. The document > is, on the other hand, free and anyone who wants to include it in any > ConTeXt distribution can, of course, do so. Also, if anyone wants the source > files, I have no problem providing them. > > I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for beginners > a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable. > > Finally, I apologize for my bad English level. I read it reasonably well, > but expressing myself in it is much harder for me. > > -- > Joaquín Ataz López > Derecho Civil > Universidad de Murcia > Holà, Joaquín, thank you for your nice and well done introduction! It is really more than a simple introduction. "Mucho trabajo", is that good Spanish? :-) Even when one doesn't read Spanish fluently, it is very useful! Rudolf ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 9:51 ` Rudolf Bahr @ 2020-10-15 3:39 ` Joaquín Ataz López 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-15 3:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context El 14/10/20 a las 11:51, Rudolf Bahr escribió: > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 06:27:30AM +0200, Joaquín Ataz López wrote: >> Sorry. By mistake I sent the message as a reply to another one, when in fact >> I was trying to start a new thread with it. I'm sending it again (I think >> I'll do it right now): >> >> --------------------------------------------- >> >> Good morning to everyone. >> >> Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list members, I >> wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV >> in Spanish, which can be downloaded at >> https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An Introduction (not >> too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV". >> >> ConTeXt is a wonderful document composition system, but there is not much >> literature to help you get into it, hence my initiative. The problem is that >> I've only been using ConTeXt for a short time and still have many doubts, so >> it's possible that the introduction may contain errors. As it has been >> written in Spanish I don't think many of you will be able to read it, but I >> would appreciate, of course, any suggestions for improvement. The document >> is, on the other hand, free and anyone who wants to include it in any >> ConTeXt distribution can, of course, do so. Also, if anyone wants the source >> files, I have no problem providing them. >> >> I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for beginners >> a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable. >> >> Finally, I apologize for my bad English level. I read it reasonably well, >> but expressing myself in it is much harder for me. >> >> -- >> Joaquín Ataz López >> Derecho Civil >> Universidad de Murcia >> > Holà, Joaquín, > > thank you for your nice and well done introduction! It is really more than a > simple introduction. "Mucho trabajo", is that good Spanish? :-) Of course yours is "good Spanish". Thank you very much for the compliments. > Even when one doesn't read Spanish fluently, it is very useful! > > Rudolf > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ -- Joaquín Ataz López Derecho Civil Universidad de Murcia ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 4:27 Joaquín Ataz López ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2020-10-14 9:51 ` Rudolf Bahr @ 2020-10-15 21:25 ` Willi Egger 2020-10-16 4:14 ` Joaquín Ataz López 3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Willi Egger @ 2020-10-15 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: NTG-Context ConTeXt users Good evening Joaquin, first of all congratulations for your initiative, this is really an impressive piece of work! Without wanting to critisize I think, that in general MKIV documents should be made up with \start”elment” … \stop”element”. This will be important for all those, who also need to produce xml. I encountred two things in your book: page 96 at the bottom. You write that the “height” is header + headerdistance + textheight + bottomdistance + bottom. This should be footerdistance and footer. — The graphic showing the areas however is correct. page 139 at the top: \chapter[title=…,reference=..]. This should be \startchapter[title=…,reference=…] … \stopchapter Again, thank you for all your work! — Sorry “no hablo Espaniol”… Saludos cordiales Willi > On 14 Oct 2020, at 06:27, Joaquín Ataz López <jal@um.es> wrote: > > Sorry. By mistake I sent the message as a reply to another one, when in fact I was trying to start a new thread with it. I'm sending it again (I think I'll do it right now): > > --------------------------------------------- > > Good morning to everyone. > > Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list members, I wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV in Spanish, which can be downloaded at https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An Introduction (not too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV". > > ConTeXt is a wonderful document composition system, but there is not much literature to help you get into it, hence my initiative. The problem is that I've only been using ConTeXt for a short time and still have many doubts, so it's possible that the introduction may contain errors. As it has been written in Spanish I don't think many of you will be able to read it, but I would appreciate, of course, any suggestions for improvement. The document is, on the other hand, free and anyone who wants to include it in any ConTeXt distribution can, of course, do so. Also, if anyone wants the source files, I have no problem providing them. > > I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for beginners a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable. > > Finally, I apologize for my bad English level. I read it reasonably well, but expressing myself in it is much harder for me. > > -- > Joaquín Ataz López > Derecho Civil > Universidad de Murcia > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-15 21:25 ` Willi Egger @ 2020-10-16 4:14 ` Joaquín Ataz López 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-16 4:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Thank you very much for your comments. I will take them in consideration and, along with others that are sent to me, I will prepare a version 1.5 of the guide. As my introduction, being written in Spanish, excludes many members from the list, from now on, and in order not to bore too much those who are not interested in this matter, I will answer the mails related to my introduction exclusively to the sender, and not to the list, unless I think the matter is of more general interest. Thank you all very much for the good reception of my introduction. I already said that it would certainly have errors, I am a beginner at ConTeXt. El 15/10/20 a las 23:25, Willi Egger escribió: > Good evening Joaquin, > > first of all congratulations for your initiative, this is really an impressive piece of work! > > Without wanting to critisize I think, that in general MKIV documents should be made up with \start”elment” … \stop”element”. This will be important for all those, who also need to produce xml. > > I encountred two things in your book: > > page 96 at the bottom. You write that the “height” is header + headerdistance + textheight + bottomdistance + bottom. This should be footerdistance and footer. — The graphic showing the areas however is correct. > > page 139 at the top: \chapter[title=…,reference=..]. This should be \startchapter[title=…,reference=…] … \stopchapter > > Again, thank you for all your work! — Sorry “no hablo Espaniol”… > > Saludos cordiales -- Joaquín Ataz López Derecho Civil Universidad de Murcia ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Some interaction questions @ 2020-10-13 9:40 Denis Maier 2020-10-13 14:14 ` Pablo Rodriguez 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Denis Maier @ 2020-10-13 9:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi, I have a few more question regarding interaction/PDF bookmarks and PDF links: - How can you ignore Commands in bookmarks? Like when instead of "The concept of {\em bookmarks}", I'd prefer to just have "The concept of bookmarks". I know I can just use something like \startchapter[title=The concept of {\em bookmarks}, bookmark=The concept of bookmarks] But is there an setting for that? - When clicking on a link, the focus switches to the target page. Is it possible to go to the line of the target? (Would be nice for switching between notes and text. Otherwise linking between notes and note markers would be quite pointless.) Best, Denis ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Some interaction questions 2020-10-13 9:40 Some interaction questions Denis Maier @ 2020-10-13 14:14 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2020-10-13 20:14 ` Denis Maier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2020-10-13 14:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 10/13/20 11:40 AM, Denis Maier wrote: > Hi, > > I have a few more question regarding interaction/PDF bookmarks and PDF > links: > > - How can you ignore Commands in bookmarks? Like when instead of "The > concept of {\em bookmarks}", I'd prefer to just have "The concept of > bookmarks". I know I can just use something like > \startchapter[title=The concept of {\em bookmarks}, > bookmark=The concept of bookmarks] > But is there an setting for that? Hi Denis, I think this is what you want: \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll] > - When clicking on a link, the focus switches to the target page. Is it > possible to go to the line of the target? (Would be nice for switching > between notes and text. Otherwise linking between notes and note markers > would be quite pointless.) "focus=standard" in \setupinteraction. With a minimal sample: \setupinteraction[state=start, focus=standard] \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll] \placebookmarks[chapter] \starttext \completecontent \chapter{The concept of {\em bookmarks}} \stoptext I hope it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Some interaction questions 2020-10-13 14:14 ` Pablo Rodriguez @ 2020-10-13 20:14 ` Denis Maier 2020-10-13 20:24 ` Pablo Rodriguez 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Denis Maier @ 2020-10-13 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Pablo Rodriguez Follow up, I'm trying to also ignore commands when setting PDF metadata: The wiki gives these examples: \appendtoks \def\CONTEXT{ConTeXt} \to \simplifiedcommands And: \appendtoks \let\quad\space \to \simplifiedcommands So, I just added this to my environment file: \appendtoks \def\em{\space} \to \simplifiedcommands But, the \em still shows up in the PDF metadata. Is this still the recommended way to do this? Or is there an easier way? I guess, even if this would remove the \em, that would still leave the braces in place. (I'd prefer to remove them as well, but I've no idea how that could work.) Best, Denis Am 13.10.2020 um 16:14 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez: > On 10/13/20 11:40 AM, Denis Maier wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have a few more question regarding interaction/PDF bookmarks and PDF >> links: >> >> - How can you ignore Commands in bookmarks? Like when instead of "The >> concept of {\em bookmarks}", I'd prefer to just have "The concept of >> bookmarks". I know I can just use something like >> \startchapter[title=The concept of {\em bookmarks}, >> bookmark=The concept of bookmarks] >> But is there an setting for that? > Hi Denis, > > I think this is what you want: > > \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll] > >> - When clicking on a link, the focus switches to the target page. Is it >> possible to go to the line of the target? (Would be nice for switching >> between notes and text. Otherwise linking between notes and note markers >> would be quite pointless.) > "focus=standard" in \setupinteraction. > > With a minimal sample: > > \setupinteraction[state=start, focus=standard] > \enabledirectives[references.bookmarks.preroll] > \placebookmarks[chapter] > \starttext > \completecontent > \chapter{The concept of {\em bookmarks}} > \stoptext > > I hope it helps, > > Pablo > -- > http://www.ousia.tk > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: Some interaction questions 2020-10-13 20:14 ` Denis Maier @ 2020-10-13 20:24 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2020-10-14 3:51 ` A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV Joaquín Ataz López 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2020-10-13 20:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 10/13/20 10:14 PM, Denis Maier wrote: > [...] > So, I just added this to my environment file: > > \appendtoks > \def\em{\space} > \to \simplifiedcommands > > But, the \em still shows up in the PDF metadata. Is this still the > recommended way to do this? Or is there an easier way? I guess, even if > this would remove the \em, that would still leave the braces in place. > (I'd prefer to remove them as well, but I've no idea how that could work.) Hi Denis, \enabledirectives[interaction.identity.preroll] is your friend here. I think it would be better to update the wiki with these infos. Many thanks for improving the wiki 😉, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-13 20:24 ` Pablo Rodriguez @ 2020-10-14 3:51 ` Joaquín Ataz López 2020-10-14 13:01 ` Hans Hagen 2020-10-15 8:26 ` BPJ 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-14 3:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Good morning to everyone. Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list members, I wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV in Spanish, which can be downloaded at https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An Introduction (not too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV". ConTeXt is a wonderful document composition system, but there is not much literature to help you get into it, hence my initiative. The problem is that I've only been using ConTeXt for a short time and still have many doubts, so it's possible that the introduction may contain errors. As it has been written in Spanish I don't think many of you will be able to read it, but I would appreciate, of course, any suggestions for improvement. The document is, on the other hand, free and anyone who wants to include it in any ConTeXt distribution can, of course, do so. Also, if anyone wants the source files, I have no problem providing them. I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for beginners a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable. Finally, I apologize for my bad English level. I read it reasonably well, but expressing myself in it is much harder for me. -- Joaquín Ataz López Derecho Civil Universidad de Murcia ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 3:51 ` A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-14 13:01 ` Hans Hagen 2020-10-15 3:56 ` Joaquín Ataz López 2020-10-15 8:26 ` BPJ 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-10-14 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Joaquín Ataz López On 10/14/2020 5:51 AM, Joaquín Ataz López wrote: > I have not based my introduction on LMTX because I think that for > beginners a more stable system, like LuaTeX, is preferable. lmtx is mostly mkiv compatible, and beginners won't notice a difference i think ... of course new features can show up on lmtx or some mechanisms can be made better but again, that is not somethign a beginner will run into Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 13:01 ` Hans Hagen @ 2020-10-15 3:56 ` Joaquín Ataz López 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joaquín Ataz López @ 2020-10-15 3:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen, mailing list for ConTeXt users El 14/10/20 a las 15:01, Hans Hagen escribió: > lmtx is mostly mkiv compatible, and beginners won't notice a > difference i think ... of course new features can show up on lmtx or > some mechanisms can be made better but again, that is not somethign a > beginner will run into > Hans Of course. You are right; and in fact in the text of my introduction no difference is pointed out between lmtx and mkiv. However, as I see from this list, in the continuous renewals of lmtx arises, from time to time, some bug (which is also fixed immediately) I thought that in the appendix concerning the installation, it was preferable to emphasize more on the installation of "Context-Standalone" than on the lmtx, although I explain both. -- Joaquín Ataz López Derecho Civil Universidad de Murcia ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV 2020-10-14 3:51 ` A Spanish introduction to ConTeXt Mark IV Joaquín Ataz López 2020-10-14 13:01 ` Hans Hagen @ 2020-10-15 8:26 ` BPJ 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: BPJ @ 2020-10-15 8:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1843 bytes --] Den ons 14 okt. 2020 06:14Joaquín Ataz López <jal@um.es> skrev: > Good morning to everyone. > > Although I guess it will not be of interest to most of the list members, > I wanted to communicate that I have written an introduction to ConTeXt > Mark IV in Spanish, which can be downloaded at > https://webs.um.es/jal/docs/introCTX.pdf. Its title is "An Introduction > (not too short) to ConTeXt Mark IV". > Although I make my way through Spanish text with the help of half-forgotten "high school" Latin and Italian from 35 years ago plus Wiktionary this is the book I have been needing! Thank you very much! This could really become the "lshort" of ConTeXt. The "lshort" was originally written in German but has been translated into multiple languages through community effort: < https://ctan.org/tex-archive/info/lshort>. I'm thinking that in this age of distributed version control it would be feasible to have multiple people working on each version. Since I periodically work as a documentation translator I'm immediately seized by a desire to translate it into English, and why not also Swedish, my native language? I would need to improve my Spanish considerably though, and probably also to invent the 28-hour day! So I'm thinking why not create a GitHub/GitLab repository (or even organization) for this so that anybody can help translating it into other languages? Those who know Spanish well could do the initial translation and then those who know English (or any other language into which some part(s) have been translated) can do the proof reading (which is where I really can show my muscle since proofing/editing is what I mostly do for a living! :-) Then when there exist more versions anyone can make secondary translations between pairs of languages which they know. Cheers, /Benct [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2819 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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