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X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.38 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Hans Hagen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" On 6/18/2023 10:20 AM, Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context wrote: > > >> On 16 Jun 2023, at 17:35, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context wrote: >> >> I know this is off topic, but I suspect this community is actually one of the best places to find an answer. >> >> I really like Optima, and what I really like about it is the 'flared style'. >> >> But I would like to move to a flared-sans font that gives me more licensing freedom. I haven't been able to find one after extensive searching. The only one who were reasonably priced (not free) were the URW Classico ones in Adobe Creative Cloud, but those can only be used in Adobe programs like InDesign (and not TeX). >> >> I found some flared-sans fonts, but not one with at least regular, italic, bold, and bold-italic. >> >> Is there really not a single flared-sans font that is really free (so also for commercial use) to use out there? > > Not free but good value: Fontspring have a font called Ophian that looks (to my untrained eye!) a reasonable match with Optima. > > Optima has a very recognizable and distinctive design. One of my favourites. The palatino nova is another favourite and has a nice sans (casual). > $22 for the first licence added to the shopping cart then reductions show for the subsequent licences. I'm guessing you'll need two: desktop in order to install on a PC and publish a printed book, and eBook to allow distribution of a PDF or eBook, so 33 USD in total. There's no time limit nor number of copies limit as far as I can see - just one eBook licence per title. > > Maybe there will be VAT etc added when you get to checkout - I didn't go that far. Yes, but it smells a bit like some clone. I have an official optima nova cd (in type one format, i can't afford the opentype right now) as well as the official palatino nova cd (in opentype format); I got them from the master himself, which makes them even more special. (It reminds me that I need to check if we can drop in replacements in the pagella math.) 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