From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18847 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2023 19:42:07 -0000 Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (5.39.185.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 13 Apr 2023 19:42:07 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3FB140D; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:41:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uvpnPRvr62JP; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:41:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CAFBE0; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:41:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83046BE0 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:41:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YoqKBLUvLDw3 for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=166.84.1.75; helo=l2mail1.panix.com; envelope-from=rik@panix.com; receiver= X-Greylist: delayed 1139 seconds by postgrey-1.36 at zapf.ntg.nl; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:41:16 CEST Received: from l2mail1.panix.com (l2mail1.panix.com [166.84.1.75]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DC5107DE for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 21:41:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by l2mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Py8bZ212WzDbV for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 15:22:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.106] (cpe-24-194-2-237.nycap.res.rr.com [24.194.2.237]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Py8bW3c5nzSMq for ; Thu, 13 Apr 2023 15:22:15 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=panix.com; s=panix; t=1681413735; bh=5pS3dExHRJ5lbvzVYXY4fLW+QzCdWxzcxuSMmk7Zy5Y=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To; b=kFVXGzPQTXSiC6yIQu+UFSNmkFS4l/luh//udIwv6rl1cxBRHyfIIhbWs8m2cf1Kw i7lsSjvVMD9Z9UYeS65LDMPROoNMC0Lso+GDtBIM6wcj273ZXnIJZqcq4ZLqb0eGxK GUrOvymwrnbC1J0Et1452sidjVOrd2DYI3HxQvxU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 15:22:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/102.0 Thunderbird/102.9.1 To: ntg-context@ntg.nl References: <640aa3e12d497a417564762e304bbc02@ens-lyon.fr> <037a1404-8a93-d32c-8a94-9ce9c69f4434@xs4all.nl> <88627c80d6a48eebdb72a94fdbc2627b@ens-lyon.fr> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <88627c80d6a48eebdb72a94fdbc2627b@ens-lyon.fr> Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Using project-local fonts X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.38 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Rik Kabel via ntg-context Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Rik Kabel Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4058307830755316621==" Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4058307830755316621== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------szvkV5qV9gnGR0DLU9XQXMC8" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------szvkV5qV9gnGR0DLU9XQXMC8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 2023-04-13 11:28, Kalouguine Andre via ntg-context wrote: > > Hi, > >> i'm not familiar with that approach so can't see what interferes > The most important change is that I can't update it and I can't put > stuff in the system directory nor the user one. > So I only have access to the project folder, it has to be self-contained. >> \definefontfamily [ebgaramond] [serif] [ebgaramond] >> [features=eb-garamond-normal] > Apologies, my fault, I forgot a part of my email. I don't want the c-t > and s-t ligatures (supposed to be in `hlig`). But I do want the T-h > ligature which is supposed to be in `dlig`. So as far as I understand, > TeXlive comes with an old version of EB Garamond in which all of them > are in `dlig`. Hence my question about self-contained projects with fonts. > Best regards, > Andre > Andre (and list), EB Garamond is hopelessly broken with respect to hlig and dlig, and has been for quite a while. I reported the problem (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20) over five years ago, and the maintainer (if there is one) has done nothing. See also #4 in that issues list (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/4). There are a couple of forks, but there is no established reference implementation that I can see. The Google Fonts implementation is similarly challenged, perhaps worse. -- Rik --------------szvkV5qV9gnGR0DLU9XQXMC8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit


On 2023-04-13 11:28, Kalouguine Andre via ntg-context wrote:

Hi,

i'm not familiar with that approach so can't see what interferes
 
The most important change is that I can't update it and I can't put stuff in the system directory nor the user one.
So I only have access to the project folder, it has to be self-contained.
 
\definefontfamily [ebgaramond] [serif] [ebgaramond] [features=eb-garamond-normal]
 
Apologies, my fault, I forgot a part of my email. I don't want the c-t and s-t ligatures (supposed to be in `hlig`). But I do want the T-h ligature which is supposed to be in `dlig`. So as far as I understand, TeXlive comes with an old version of EB Garamond in which all of them are in `dlig`. Hence my question about self-contained projects with fonts.
 
 
Best regards,
Andre


Andre (and list),

EB Garamond is hopelessly broken with respect to hlig and dlig, and has been for quite a while.

I reported the problem (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20) over five years ago, and the maintainer (if there is one) has done nothing. See also #4 in that issues list (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/4). There are a couple of forks, but there is no established reference implementation that I can see. The Google Fonts implementation is similarly challenged, perhaps worse.

--
Rik


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