From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19851 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Johan Sandblom Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: new beta Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:34 +0200 Message-ID: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1113490116 31353 80.91.229.2 (14 Apr 2005 14:48:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 14:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Apr 14 16:48:28 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DM5ck-0000vc-MI for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:47:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD21912901; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08365-02; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8571128EA; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F83128EA for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08256-04 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp3.ki.se (smtp3.ki.se [130.237.98.100]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DCB128E5 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from pmxchannel-daemon.smtp3.ki.se by smtp3.ki.se (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.02 (built Oct 21 2004)) id <0IEX00B01YKAWM@smtp3.ki.se> for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:35 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from ki.se (scnode1.it.ki.se [130.237.99.51]) by smtp3.ki.se (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 2.02 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IEX00LJ8YKAOA@smtp3.ki.se> for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:34 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from [213.66.69.156] by mail.ki.se (mshttpd); Thu, 14 Apr 2005 16:50:34 +0200 Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: iPlanet Messenger Express 5.2 HotFix 1.27 (built May 12 2004) Content-language: en Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.2.0, Antispam-Data: 2005.4.14.6 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19851 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19851 Sorry for going off topic, but since it is a concern ... Using a linux distribution with an intelligent package/dependencies handling system such as Gentoo or Debian would end your updating woes for all time. In debian testing apt-get install inkscape downloads and installs inkscape 0.41 and updates all dependencies automatically and in Gentoo ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge -ua inkscape downloads the source of inkscape 0.41 and all required dependencies and compiles them (taking a lot of time of course). Without going to the testing distribution ("~x86") you get 0.37 Comparing the two, the debian testing distribution has never been less than stable while gentoo testing is updated faster, but has given me trouble at some points. Sorry for the noise if this is inappropriate information for this list, Johan -- Johan Sandblom N8, MRC, Karolinska sjh t +46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite" -- Bertrand Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans Hagen Date: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:33 am Subject: Re: [NTG-context] new beta > Paul Tremblay wrote: > > > Is inkscape the beast that gave you so much trouble with the glib > > library? I know I tried to install it and gave up after I couldn't > > install glib. > > indeed, but since i use windows as production platform i can wait > till i've > updated the linux machines; i have no idea how well inkscape > installs on the mac > > > Why did you choose inskscape? I thought inkscape is supposed to > be a > > great gui svg-editor, but I wonder if you need all of its power just > > to do a conversion. I use batik for my conversions, which is > part of > > the apache project. Of course, it is written in java, which raises > > other problems. > > indeed, i find installing java programs (sometimes bigger than tex > collections) > with this classpath stuff often troublesome (unless there is an > installer, which > is often true for gui based programs); > > concerning the alternatives: batik and imagemagick are not good > enough (hardly > maintained too); i ran a sample set of some 9000 svg graphics > trough the > converter tools and it worked ok with inkscape; it was also fast; > btw, some > versions give problems (0.41 is ok, 0.40 was bugged, 0.39 ok if i > remember right) > > (the only drawback of inkscape is the clumsy command line print > feature, kind of > piping, while just writing to a file would have been nicer) > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > ntg-context mailing list > ntg-context@ntg.nl > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >