* [NTG-context] Spacing between Chapter title and first paragraph sometimes changes
@ 2025-01-13 17:09 Keith McKay
2025-01-13 18:08 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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From: Keith McKay @ 2025-01-13 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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H,
I'm typesetting a memoir for a friend and I've come across a strange
problem which I'm trying to solve. The memoir will be A5 format and has
quite a few chapters which are less than a page long. I noticed that for
some chapters the distance between the the chapter head and the first
paragraph were not aligned in double page view. You can see this quite
clearly in the attached screenshot.
I was given a docx file consisting of 80 chapters and and appendices
which I converted to individual xhtml files. The resulting xhtml files
are very simple and the format is as follows:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<link rel="stylesheet" href="../styles/style001.css" type="text/css" />
<title></title>
</head>
<body>
<h2 id="heading_id_no>Chapter Number</h2>
<p>Some text</p>
<p>Some text</p>
<p>And so on...</p>
</body>
</html>
In some of the xhtml files I have added <div>...</div> for layout
purposes and also inserted images.
I use xmlsetups to typeset the tags as follows:
\startxmlsetups xml:html
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:body
\xmlflush{#1}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:h2
\page
\chapter{\xmlflush{#1}}
\stopxmlsetups
\startxmlsetups xml:p
\xmlflush{#1}\par
\stopxmlsetups
along with a few others for divs, images and some other tags.
For the chapters setup I use:
\setuphead[chapter][page=no,
number=no,
header=empty,
align=middle,
after={\blank[3cm]}]
I would expect that using this \setuphead, there should be a gap of
three cm between the head text and the first paragraph, however in a few
chapters this does not happen and an extra blank line is either added or
subtracted to the gap.
I'm obviously missing something simple and struggling to find a solution
to correct this problem so I would be grateful for any hints on how to
go about it.
Best Wishes
Keith McKay
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* [NTG-context] Re: Spacing between Chapter title and first paragraph sometimes changes
2025-01-13 17:09 [NTG-context] Spacing between Chapter title and first paragraph sometimes changes Keith McKay
@ 2025-01-13 18:08 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2025-01-13 19:52 ` Keith McKay
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From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2025-01-13 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context; +Cc: Hans Hagen
On 1/13/2025 6:09 PM, Keith McKay wrote:
> H,
>
> I'm typesetting a memoir for a friend and I've come across a strange
> problem which I'm trying to solve. The memoir will be A5 format and has
> quite a few chapters which are less than a page long. I noticed that for
> some chapters the distance between the the chapter head and the first
> paragraph were not aligned in double page view. You can see this quite
> clearly in the attached screenshot.
>
> I was given a docx file consisting of 80 chapters and and appendices
> which I converted to individual xhtml files. The resulting xhtml files
> are very simple and the format is as follows:
>
> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
>
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">
>
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
>
> <head>
>
> <link rel="stylesheet" href="../styles/style001.css" type="text/css" />
>
> <title></title>
>
> </head>
>
> <body>
>
> <h2 id="heading_id_no>Chapter Number</h2>
>
> <p>Some text</p>
>
> <p>Some text</p>
>
> <p>And so on...</p>
>
> </body>
>
> </html>
>
> In some of the xhtml files I have added <div>...</div> for layout
> purposes and also inserted images.
>
> I use xmlsetups to typeset the tags as follows:
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:html
>
> \xmlflush{#1}
>
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:body
>
> \xmlflush{#1}
>
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:h2
>
> \page
>
> \chapter{\xmlflush{#1}}
>
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:p
> \xmlflush{#1}\par
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> along with a few others for divs, images and some other tags.
>
> For the chapters setup I use:
>
> \setuphead[chapter][page=no,
>
> number=no,
>
> header=empty,
>
> align=middle,
>
> after={\blank[3cm]}]
>
> I would expect that using this \setuphead, there should be a gap of
> three cm between the head text and the first paragraph, however in a few
> chapters this does not happen and an extra blank line is either added or
> subtracted to the gap.
>
> I'm obviously missing something simple and struggling to find a solution
> to correct this problem so I would be grateful for any hints on how to
> go about it.
hard to guess ... so how do these h2's look compared to each other
maybe use
\chapter{\xmltext{#1}}
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* [NTG-context] Re: Spacing between Chapter title and first paragraph sometimes changes
2025-01-13 18:08 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
@ 2025-01-13 19:52 ` Keith McKay
2025-01-13 20:31 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Keith McKay @ 2025-01-13 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Thanks for your reply Hans.
The h2's all have the same format except that the id attribute changes
for each h2, which is to be expected.
I tried
\chapter{xmltext{#1}}
as you suggested, and still the same problem.
I've created a new tex file, which only contains the problematic files
and compiled it. Still the same problem. I also removed the id attribute
from the h2's, since I don't use that for typesetting and still the same
effect. So I think I'll leave it tonight and start from scratch tomorrow
and have a look through some other books I've typeset. I'll let you know
how I get on.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Best Wishes
Keith McKay
On 13/01/2025 18:08, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> On 1/13/2025 6:09 PM, Keith McKay wrote:
>> H,
>>
>> I'm typesetting a memoir for a friend and I've come across a strange
>> problem which I'm trying to solve. The memoir will be A5 format and
>> has quite a few chapters which are less than a page long. I noticed
>> that for some chapters the distance between the the chapter head and
>> the first paragraph were not aligned in double page view. You can see
>> this quite clearly in the attached screenshot.
>>
>> I was given a docx file consisting of 80 chapters and and appendices
>> which I converted to individual xhtml files. The resulting xhtml
>> files are very simple and the format is as follows:
>>
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
>>
>> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN"
>>
>> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd">
>>
>> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
>>
>> <head>
>>
>> <link rel="stylesheet" href="../styles/style001.css" type="text/css" />
>>
>> <title></title>
>>
>> </head>
>>
>> <body>
>>
>> <h2 id="heading_id_no>Chapter Number</h2>
>>
>> <p>Some text</p>
>>
>> <p>Some text</p>
>>
>> <p>And so on...</p>
>>
>> </body>
>>
>> </html>
>>
>> In some of the xhtml files I have added <div>...</div> for layout
>> purposes and also inserted images.
>>
>> I use xmlsetups to typeset the tags as follows:
>>
>> \startxmlsetups xml:html
>>
>> \xmlflush{#1}
>>
>> \stopxmlsetups
>>
>> \startxmlsetups xml:body
>>
>> \xmlflush{#1}
>>
>> \stopxmlsetups
>>
>> \startxmlsetups xml:h2
>>
>> \page
>>
>> \chapter{\xmlflush{#1}}
>>
>> \stopxmlsetups
>>
>> \startxmlsetups xml:p
>> \xmlflush{#1}\par
>> \stopxmlsetups
>>
>> along with a few others for divs, images and some other tags.
>>
>> For the chapters setup I use:
>>
>> \setuphead[chapter][page=no,
>>
>> number=no,
>>
>> header=empty,
>>
>> align=middle,
>>
>> after={\blank[3cm]}]
>>
>> I would expect that using this \setuphead, there should be a gap of
>> three cm between the head text and the first paragraph, however in a
>> few chapters this does not happen and an extra blank line is either
>> added or subtracted to the gap.
>>
>> I'm obviously missing something simple and struggling to find a
>> solution to correct this problem so I would be grateful for any hints
>> on how to go about it.
>
> hard to guess ... so how do these h2's look compared to each other
>
> maybe use
>
> \chapter{\xmltext{#1}}
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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> to the Wiki!
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* [NTG-context] Re: Spacing between Chapter title and first paragraph sometimes changes
2025-01-13 19:52 ` Keith McKay
@ 2025-01-13 20:31 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2025-01-13 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 1/13/2025 8:52 PM, Keith McKay wrote:
> Thanks for your reply Hans.
> The h2's all have the same format except that the id attribute changes
> for each h2, which is to be expected.
> I tried
> \chapter{xmltext{#1}}
> as you suggested, and still the same problem.
> I've created a new tex file, which only contains the problematic files
> and compiled it. Still the same problem. I also removed the id attribute
> from the h2's, since I don't use that for typesetting and still the same
> effect. So I think I'll leave it tonight and start from scratch tomorrow
> and have a look through some other books I've typeset. I'll let you know
> how I get on.
> Thanks for your suggestions.
strip down the xml to a few chapters (titles plus a few lines of text
per chapter) and send the lot to me and i'll have a look
Hans
ps \showmakeup[line,glue] might give a clue
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