* Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again)
@ 2017-07-12 8:17 Mikael P. Sundqvist
2017-07-20 5:18 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2017-07-12 8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Dear Hans,
now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new manner,
I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the kerning
between characters, in particular primes and the left parenthesis?
I tried
kernpairs = {
[0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, -- prime and (
},
but that does not seem to have any effect.
The pre-1.05 modification
dimensions = {
default = {
[0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 },
[0x2032] = { xoffset = 50, width = 290 }, -- prime
[0x2033] = { xoffset = 50, width = 690 }, -- double prime
[0x2034] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1090}, -- triple prime
[0x2057] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1490}, -- quadruple prime
},
},
(which is a non-optimal way of solving this issue since it has side
effects) does not change anything anymore.
So, is there now a way to do this cleanly now that the mechanism is changed?
/Mikael
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread* Re: Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again) 2017-07-12 8:17 Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again) Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2017-07-20 5:18 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist 2017-07-20 12:53 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2017-07-20 5:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1227 bytes --] Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" <mickep@gmail.com>: Dear Hans, now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new manner, I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the kerning between characters, in particular primes and the left parenthesis? I tried kernpairs = { [0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, -- prime and ( }, but that does not seem to have any effect. The pre-1.05 modification dimensions = { default = { [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, [0x2032] = { xoffset = 50, width = 290 }, -- prime [0x2033] = { xoffset = 50, width = 690 }, -- double prime [0x2034] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1090}, -- triple prime [0x2057] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1490}, -- quadruple prime }, }, (which is a non-optimal way of solving this issue since it has side effects) does not change anything anymore. So, is there now a way to do this cleanly now that the mechanism is changed? /Mikael Hi, should I interpret the silence that this is currently not possible, or that you, Hans, is completely fed up with this subject? :-) /Mikael [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1992 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 492 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again) 2017-07-20 5:18 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2017-07-20 12:53 ` Hans Hagen 2017-07-31 9:21 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-07-20 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" <mickep@gmail.com > <mailto:mickep@gmail.com>>: > > Dear Hans, > > now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new manner, > I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the kerning > between characters, in particular primes and the left parenthesis? > > I tried > > kernpairs = { > [0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, -- prime and ( > }, > > but that does not seem to have any effect. > > The pre-1.05 modification > > dimensions = { > default = { > [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, > [0x2032] = { xoffset = 50, width = 290 }, -- prime > [0x2033] = { xoffset = 50, width = 690 }, -- double > prime > [0x2034] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1090}, -- triple > prime > [0x2057] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1490}, -- > quadruple prime > }, > }, > > (which is a non-optimal way of solving this issue since it has side > effects) does not change anything anymore. > > So, is there now a way to do this cleanly now that the mechanism is > changed? > > /Mikael > > > Hi, > > should I interpret the silence that this is currently not possible, or > that you, Hans, is completely fed up with this subject? :-) you rule out the possibility that i have other things to do anyway, use 0xFE932 etc instead as primes get remapped ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again) 2017-07-20 12:53 ` Hans Hagen @ 2017-07-31 9:21 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist 2017-07-31 15:37 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2017-07-31 9:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3948 bytes --] On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > >> Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" <mickep@gmail.com >> <mailto:mickep@gmail.com>>: >> >> Dear Hans, >> >> now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new manner, >> I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the kerning >> between characters, in particular primes and the left parenthesis? >> >> I tried >> >> kernpairs = { >> [0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, -- prime and ( >> }, >> >> but that does not seem to have any effect. >> >> The pre-1.05 modification >> >> dimensions = { >> default = { >> [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, >> [0x2032] = { xoffset = 50, width = 290 }, -- prime >> [0x2033] = { xoffset = 50, width = 690 }, -- double >> prime >> [0x2034] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1090}, -- triple >> prime >> [0x2057] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1490}, -- >> quadruple prime >> }, >> }, >> >> (which is a non-optimal way of solving this issue since it has side >> effects) does not change anything anymore. >> >> So, is there now a way to do this cleanly now that the mechanism is >> changed? >> >> /Mikael >> >> >> Hi, >> >> should I interpret the silence that this is currently not possible, or >> that you, Hans, is completely fed up with this subject? :-) > > you rule out the possibility that i have other things to do > > anyway, use > > 0xFE932 > > etc instead as primes get remapped > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ I'm sorry but I cannot get it to work. %%% my local lucida-opentype-math.lfg, located in the same directory as the tex file (and loaded) ----- kern_250 = { bottomright = { { kern = -250 } }, force = true } local function FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap(value,target,original) local o = original.mathparameters.RadicalVerticalGap -- 50 return 2 * o * target.parameters.factor end return { name = "lucida-opentype-math", version = "1.00", comment = "Goodies that complement lucida opentype.", author = "Hans Hagen", copyright = "ConTeXt development team", mathematics = { parameters = { RadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap = FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap, }, kernpairs = { [0x1D44E] = {[0x1D44F] = 1000,}, -- 𝑎𝑏 demo [0xFE932] = {[0x0028] = 1000,} -- remapped prime and ( }, } } %%% %%% the tex file \setupbodyfont[lucidaot] \setupmathematics[kernpairs=yes] \starttext $f'(x)ab$ \stoptext %%% The result is attached. It works ok for the pair ab, but not for prime and (. Is the ( also remapped (while greping for it in the source, I could not find any clue). Maybe it is better to ping the maintainers of the font? /Mikael [-- Attachment #2: ctx-listexample36.pdf --] [-- Type: application/pdf, Size: 6309 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 492 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again) 2017-07-31 9:21 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2017-07-31 15:37 ` Hans Hagen 2017-07-31 18:02 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-07-31 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 7/31/2017 11:21 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: >> On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> >>> Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" <mickep@gmail.com >>> <mailto:mickep@gmail.com>>: >>> >>> Dear Hans, >>> >>> now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new manner, >>> I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the kerning >>> between characters, in particular primes and the left parenthesis? >>> >>> I tried >>> >>> kernpairs = { >>> [0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, -- prime and ( >>> }, >>> >>> but that does not seem to have any effect. >>> >>> The pre-1.05 modification >>> >>> dimensions = { >>> default = { >>> [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, >>> [0x2032] = { xoffset = 50, width = 290 }, -- prime >>> [0x2033] = { xoffset = 50, width = 690 }, -- double >>> prime >>> [0x2034] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1090}, -- triple >>> prime >>> [0x2057] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1490}, -- >>> quadruple prime >>> }, >>> }, >>> >>> (which is a non-optimal way of solving this issue since it has side >>> effects) does not change anything anymore. >>> >>> So, is there now a way to do this cleanly now that the mechanism is >>> changed? >>> >>> /Mikael >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> should I interpret the silence that this is currently not possible, or >>> that you, Hans, is completely fed up with this subject? :-) >> >> you rule out the possibility that i have other things to do >> >> anyway, use >> >> 0xFE932 >> >> etc instead as primes get remapped >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > I'm sorry but I cannot get it to work. > > %%% my local lucida-opentype-math.lfg, located in the same directory > as the tex file (and loaded) > ----- kern_250 = { bottomright = { { kern = -250 } }, force = true } > > local function FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap(value,target,original) > local o = original.mathparameters.RadicalVerticalGap -- 50 > return 2 * o * target.parameters.factor > end > > return { > name = "lucida-opentype-math", > version = "1.00", > comment = "Goodies that complement lucida opentype.", > author = "Hans Hagen", > copyright = "ConTeXt development team", > mathematics = { > parameters = { > RadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap = FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap, > }, > kernpairs = { > [0x1D44E] = {[0x1D44F] = 1000,}, -- 𝑎𝑏 demo > [0xFE932] = {[0x0028] = 1000,} -- remapped prime and ( > }, > } > } > %%% > > %%% the tex file > \setupbodyfont[lucidaot] > \setupmathematics[kernpairs=yes] > > \starttext > $f'(x)ab$ > \stoptext > %%% > > The result is attached. It works ok for the pair ab, but not for prime > and (. Is the ( also remapped (while greping for it in the source, I > could not find any clue). > > Maybe it is better to ping the maintainers of the font? just change the dimensions dimensions = { default = { -- experimental values [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, -- [0x2032] = { yoffset = -10 }, [0xFE932] = { width = 200 }, [0xFE933] = { width = 500 }, [0xFE934] = { width = 800 }, }, }, ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again) 2017-07-31 15:37 ` Hans Hagen @ 2017-07-31 18:02 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist 2017-07-31 19:15 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2017-07-31 18:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > On 7/31/2017 11:21 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: >>> >>> On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>> >>>> Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" <mickep@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:mickep@gmail.com>>: >>>> >>>> Dear Hans, >>>> >>>> now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new >>>> manner, >>>> I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the kerning >>>> between characters, in particular primes and the left parenthesis? >>>> >>>> I tried >>>> >>>> kernpairs = { >>>> [0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, -- prime and ( >>>> }, >>>> >>>> but that does not seem to have any effect. >>>> >>>> The pre-1.05 modification >>>> >>>> dimensions = { >>>> default = { >>>> [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, >>>> [0x2032] = { xoffset = 50, width = 290 }, -- prime >>>> [0x2033] = { xoffset = 50, width = 690 }, -- >>>> double >>>> prime >>>> [0x2034] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1090}, -- >>>> triple >>>> prime >>>> [0x2057] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1490}, -- >>>> quadruple prime >>>> }, >>>> }, >>>> >>>> (which is a non-optimal way of solving this issue since it has side >>>> effects) does not change anything anymore. >>>> >>>> So, is there now a way to do this cleanly now that the mechanism is >>>> changed? >>>> >>>> /Mikael >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> should I interpret the silence that this is currently not possible, or >>>> that you, Hans, is completely fed up with this subject? :-) >>> >>> >>> you rule out the possibility that i have other things to do >>> >>> anyway, use >>> >>> 0xFE932 >>> >>> etc instead as primes get remapped >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >>> the Wiki! >>> >>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> I'm sorry but I cannot get it to work. >> >> %%% my local lucida-opentype-math.lfg, located in the same directory >> as the tex file (and loaded) >> ----- kern_250 = { bottomright = { { kern = -250 } }, force = true } >> >> local function FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap(value,target,original) >> local o = original.mathparameters.RadicalVerticalGap -- 50 >> return 2 * o * target.parameters.factor >> end >> >> return { >> name = "lucida-opentype-math", >> version = "1.00", >> comment = "Goodies that complement lucida opentype.", >> author = "Hans Hagen", >> copyright = "ConTeXt development team", >> mathematics = { >> parameters = { >> RadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap = >> FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap, >> }, >> kernpairs = { >> [0x1D44E] = {[0x1D44F] = 1000,}, -- 𝑎𝑏 demo >> [0xFE932] = {[0x0028] = 1000,} -- remapped prime and ( >> }, >> } >> } >> %%% >> >> %%% the tex file >> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot] >> \setupmathematics[kernpairs=yes] >> >> \starttext >> $f'(x)ab$ >> \stoptext >> %%% >> >> The result is attached. It works ok for the pair ab, but not for prime >> and (. Is the ( also remapped (while greping for it in the source, I >> could not find any clue). >> >> Maybe it is better to ping the maintainers of the font? > > just change the dimensions > > dimensions = { > default = { -- experimental values > [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, > -- [0x2032] = { yoffset = -10 }, > [0xFE932] = { width = 200 }, > [0xFE933] = { width = 500 }, > [0xFE934] = { width = 800 }, > }, > }, > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ Dear Hans, thank you, that solution worked well! May I suggest to add something like dimensions = { default = { [0xFE932] = { width = 150 }, -- prime [0xFE933] = { width = 435 }, -- double prime [0xFE934] = { width = 720 }, -- triple prime [0xFE957] = { width = 1005 }, -- quadruple prime }, }, (or the values 200, 500, 800, 1100 if you prefer) to the font goodie file for lucida in the distribution? Again, thanks for your time, it is very much appreciated. /Mikael ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again) 2017-07-31 18:02 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2017-07-31 19:15 ` Hans Hagen 2017-07-31 19:27 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2017-07-31 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Mikael P. Sundqvist On 7/31/2017 8:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: >> On 7/31/2017 11:21 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>>> >>>>> Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" <mickep@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:mickep@gmail.com>>: >>>>> >>>>> Dear Hans, >>>>> >>>>> now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new >>>>> manner, >>>>> I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the kerning >>>>> between characters, in particular primes and the left parenthesis? >>>>> >>>>> I tried >>>>> >>>>> kernpairs = { >>>>> [0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, -- prime and ( >>>>> }, >>>>> >>>>> but that does not seem to have any effect. >>>>> >>>>> The pre-1.05 modification >>>>> >>>>> dimensions = { >>>>> default = { >>>>> [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, >>>>> [0x2032] = { xoffset = 50, width = 290 }, -- prime >>>>> [0x2033] = { xoffset = 50, width = 690 }, -- >>>>> double >>>>> prime >>>>> [0x2034] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1090}, -- >>>>> triple >>>>> prime >>>>> [0x2057] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1490}, -- >>>>> quadruple prime >>>>> }, >>>>> }, >>>>> >>>>> (which is a non-optimal way of solving this issue since it has side >>>>> effects) does not change anything anymore. >>>>> >>>>> So, is there now a way to do this cleanly now that the mechanism is >>>>> changed? >>>>> >>>>> /Mikael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> should I interpret the silence that this is currently not possible, or >>>>> that you, Hans, is completely fed up with this subject? :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> you rule out the possibility that i have other things to do >>>> >>>> anyway, use >>>> >>>> 0xFE932 >>>> >>>> etc instead as primes get remapped >>>> >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >>>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >>>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >>>> the Wiki! >>>> >>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >>>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >>>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> I'm sorry but I cannot get it to work. >>> >>> %%% my local lucida-opentype-math.lfg, located in the same directory >>> as the tex file (and loaded) >>> ----- kern_250 = { bottomright = { { kern = -250 } }, force = true } >>> >>> local function FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap(value,target,original) >>> local o = original.mathparameters.RadicalVerticalGap -- 50 >>> return 2 * o * target.parameters.factor >>> end >>> >>> return { >>> name = "lucida-opentype-math", >>> version = "1.00", >>> comment = "Goodies that complement lucida opentype.", >>> author = "Hans Hagen", >>> copyright = "ConTeXt development team", >>> mathematics = { >>> parameters = { >>> RadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap = >>> FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap, >>> }, >>> kernpairs = { >>> [0x1D44E] = {[0x1D44F] = 1000,}, -- 𝑎𝑏 demo >>> [0xFE932] = {[0x0028] = 1000,} -- remapped prime and ( >>> }, >>> } >>> } >>> %%% >>> >>> %%% the tex file >>> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot] >>> \setupmathematics[kernpairs=yes] >>> >>> \starttext >>> $f'(x)ab$ >>> \stoptext >>> %%% >>> >>> The result is attached. It works ok for the pair ab, but not for prime >>> and (. Is the ( also remapped (while greping for it in the source, I >>> could not find any clue). >>> >>> Maybe it is better to ping the maintainers of the font? >> >> just change the dimensions >> >> dimensions = { >> default = { -- experimental values >> [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, >> -- [0x2032] = { yoffset = -10 }, >> [0xFE932] = { width = 200 }, >> [0xFE933] = { width = 500 }, >> [0xFE934] = { width = 800 }, >> }, >> }, >> >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > Dear Hans, > > thank you, that solution worked well! May I suggest to add something like > > dimensions = { > default = { > [0xFE932] = { width = 150 }, -- prime > [0xFE933] = { width = 435 }, -- double prime > [0xFE934] = { width = 720 }, -- triple prime > [0xFE957] = { width = 1005 }, -- quadruple prime > }, > }, > > (or the values 200, 500, 800, 1100 if you prefer) to the font goodie > file for lucida in the distribution? too narrow might clash with superscripts .. did you do more tests than the ( ? there are also reverse primes Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: Kerning between primes and left parenthesis (again) 2017-07-31 19:15 ` Hans Hagen @ 2017-07-31 19:27 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2017-07-31 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen, mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 7674 bytes --] On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > On 7/31/2017 8:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 5:37 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: >>> >>> On 7/31/2017 11:21 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/20/2017 7:18 AM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Den 12 juli 2017 10:17 fm skrev "Mikael P. Sundqvist" >>>>>> <mickep@gmail.com >>>>>> <mailto:mickep@gmail.com>>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Hans, >>>>>> >>>>>> now, in luatex 1.05, that the primes are "constructed" in new >>>>>> manner, >>>>>> I wonder if there is a way to specify in a goodie file the >>>>>> kerning >>>>>> between characters, in particular primes and the left >>>>>> parenthesis? >>>>>> >>>>>> I tried >>>>>> >>>>>> kernpairs = { >>>>>> [0x2032] = {[0x0028] = -1000, }, -- prime and ( >>>>>> }, >>>>>> >>>>>> but that does not seem to have any effect. >>>>>> >>>>>> The pre-1.05 modification >>>>>> >>>>>> dimensions = { >>>>>> default = { >>>>>> [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, >>>>>> [0x2032] = { xoffset = 50, width = 290 }, -- >>>>>> prime >>>>>> [0x2033] = { xoffset = 50, width = 690 }, -- >>>>>> double >>>>>> prime >>>>>> [0x2034] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1090}, -- >>>>>> triple >>>>>> prime >>>>>> [0x2057] = { xoffset = 50, width = 1490}, -- >>>>>> quadruple prime >>>>>> }, >>>>>> }, >>>>>> >>>>>> (which is a non-optimal way of solving this issue since it has >>>>>> side >>>>>> effects) does not change anything anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, is there now a way to do this cleanly now that the mechanism >>>>>> is >>>>>> changed? >>>>>> >>>>>> /Mikael >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> should I interpret the silence that this is currently not possible, or >>>>>> that you, Hans, is completely fed up with this subject? :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> you rule out the possibility that i have other things to do >>>>> >>>>> anyway, use >>>>> >>>>> 0xFE932 >>>>> >>>>> etc instead as primes get remapped >>>>> >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >>>>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >>>>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry >>>>> to >>>>> the Wiki! >>>>> >>>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>>>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >>>>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >>>>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm sorry but I cannot get it to work. >>>> >>>> %%% my local lucida-opentype-math.lfg, located in the same directory >>>> as the tex file (and loaded) >>>> ----- kern_250 = { bottomright = { { kern = -250 } }, force = true } >>>> >>>> local function FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap(value,target,original) >>>> local o = original.mathparameters.RadicalVerticalGap -- 50 >>>> return 2 * o * target.parameters.factor >>>> end >>>> >>>> return { >>>> name = "lucida-opentype-math", >>>> version = "1.00", >>>> comment = "Goodies that complement lucida opentype.", >>>> author = "Hans Hagen", >>>> copyright = "ConTeXt development team", >>>> mathematics = { >>>> parameters = { >>>> RadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap = >>>> FixRadicalDisplayStyleVerticalGap, >>>> }, >>>> kernpairs = { >>>> [0x1D44E] = {[0x1D44F] = 1000,}, -- 𝑎𝑏 demo >>>> [0xFE932] = {[0x0028] = 1000,} -- remapped prime and ( >>>> }, >>>> } >>>> } >>>> %%% >>>> >>>> %%% the tex file >>>> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot] >>>> \setupmathematics[kernpairs=yes] >>>> >>>> \starttext >>>> $f'(x)ab$ >>>> \stoptext >>>> %%% >>>> >>>> The result is attached. It works ok for the pair ab, but not for prime >>>> and (. Is the ( also remapped (while greping for it in the source, I >>>> could not find any clue). >>>> >>>> Maybe it is better to ping the maintainers of the font? >>> >>> >>> just change the dimensions >>> >>> dimensions = { >>> default = { -- experimental values >>> [0x2044] = { xoffset = 275, width = 600 }, >>> -- [0x2032] = { yoffset = -10 }, >>> [0xFE932] = { width = 200 }, >>> [0xFE933] = { width = 500 }, >>> [0xFE934] = { width = 800 }, >>> }, >>> }, >>> >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >>> the Wiki! >>> >>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> Dear Hans, >> >> thank you, that solution worked well! May I suggest to add something like >> >> dimensions = { >> default = { >> [0xFE932] = { width = 150 }, -- prime >> [0xFE933] = { width = 435 }, -- double prime >> [0xFE934] = { width = 720 }, -- triple prime >> [0xFE957] = { width = 1005 }, -- quadruple prime >> }, >> }, >> >> (or the values 200, 500, 800, 1100 if you prefer) to the font goodie >> file for lucida in the distribution? > > too narrow might clash with superscripts .. did you do more tests than the ( > ? > > there are also reverse primes > > Hans > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I think your values look better for (f') but mine for f'(x). Compare the two attached files. I have browsed my ~270 pages math document, but so far I only see either primes alone or primes with ( after, and both look OK to me. I don't know how reverse primes are supposed to look or to be used, so there I am of no help. /Mikael [-- Attachment #2: ctx-listexample36.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 14217 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: ctx-listexample36wider.png --] [-- Type: image/png, Size: 13833 bytes --] [-- Attachment #4: Type: text/plain, Size: 492 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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