From: Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: [NTG-context] Re: OpenType contextual alternates disabled by default
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 22:16:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4097787-1fe1-499d-8598-f0047484f9b9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1d8ea465-d48d-49db-bd22-0c82d0b928f4@xs4all.nl>
Am 09.09.2025 um 09:59 schrieb Hans Hagen via ntg-context:
> On 9/9/2025 9:34 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> OpenType contextual alternates ("calt") seem to be disabled by default
>> in ConTeXt. However, the OpenType spec recommends that this is enabled
>> by default
>>
>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opentype/spec/
>> features_ae#tag-calt
>>
>> and it's enabled by default in both HTML and HarfBuzz
>>
>> https://drafts.csswg.org/css-fonts/#default-features
>>
>> https://harfbuzz.github.io/shaping-opentype-features.html
>>
>> Changing this default in ConTeXt probably isn't possible due to
>> backwards compatibility concerns, so this is more of an FYI than a
>> request for any changes to be made.
>>
>> Background: this came up in a recent TeX.SE question
>>
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/a/750767
>>
>> where a new user was surprised by ConTeXt's default setting since it
>> makes some fonts render differently than other programs.
>
> We started with opentype support (2005) when there wasn't much info
> about it. The reference implementation was uniscribe so we had to guess
> and compare with that. The xetex engine was using some libraries and
> changed them later on. So we couldn't check that out either.
>
> Now, when it comes to features, those experiences, also with specific
> fonts, made us decide for the defaults. Over time the specification
> became better and more complete but as you say: we want to remain
> compatibility. (I assume that ltx folk spend substantial time on
> checking changes in hb every time there is an update in tex live, which
> is quite often if i look at git syncing.)
>
> An omission in otf is that the font doesn't specify what features are to
> be on by default. Combine that with font usage where users have no
> control over features, and we see why soem are just turned on. Probably
> the same for some (fixing) heuristics. It's now how tex works: there we
> *ask* for something, not being *enforced* to.
>
> If I could motivate myself we could of course make such a list of
> default features per font.
>
> Of course one can wonder why we have rlig/lig/clig as well as kern/dist
> split into several features when they are supposed to be always on. But
> I will not waste time on pondering that.
A simple change is to a additional feature set with all the new
recommended settings. Changes to the list can happen unlike the default
feature set and users can apply it to their own font settings.
\definefontfeature
[standard] % harfbuzz?
[always]
[itlc=yes,
rlig=yes,
liga=yes,
clig=yes,
calt=yes]
\starttext
{\definedfont[name:playwritegbjregular*default]Whereas recognition of
the inherent dignity}
{\definedfont[name:playwritegbjregular*standard]Whereas recognition of
the inherent dignity}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-09 7:34 [NTG-context] OpenType contextual alternates disabled by default Max Chernoff via ntg-context
2025-09-09 7:59 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2025-09-09 20:16 ` Wolfgang Schuster [this message]
2025-09-10 6:58 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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