* typescript and font features bug?
@ 2008-09-19 13:35 Zhaopeng Xing
2008-09-19 13:36 ` Zhaopeng Xing
2008-09-20 10:54 ` Hans Hagen
0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Zhaopeng Xing @ 2008-09-19 13:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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Hi all,
I am using the latest minimal and try to compile the following two files
with luatex. The second file, using typescript and font features together,
get a serious problem with the final pdf: punctuation centered unexpectedly
in lines. For the first files, with no font features specified, it is OK. I
do not know whether someone else can replicate this problem. But it
happended on my laptop. All compiled are attached in this email.
%FILE1: test1.tex
\starttypescript[serif][myserif][name]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][MinionPro-Regular][]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [myserif] [rm] [serif] [myserif] [default]
\usetypescript[myserif]
\setupbodyfont[myserif,rm,12pt]
\starttext
\input zapf
\stoptext
%FILE2: test2.tex
\definefontfeature[minion][language=dflt, script=latn, mode=node,
frac=yes, onum=yes, kern=yes, liga=yes, dlig=yes,
protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]
\starttypescript[serif][myserif][name]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][MinionPro-Regular][features=minion]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [myserif] [rm] [serif] [myserif] [default]
\usetypescript[myserif]
\setupbodyfont[myserif,rm,12pt]
\starttext
\input zapf
\stoptext
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Zhaopeng XING
Tinbergen Institute
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2008-09-19 13:35 typescript and font features bug? Zhaopeng Xing
@ 2008-09-19 13:36 ` Zhaopeng Xing
2008-09-19 13:39 ` Zhaopeng Xing
2008-09-20 11:00 ` Hans Hagen
2008-09-20 10:54 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Zhaopeng Xing @ 2008-09-19 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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The attachment.
2008/9/19 Zhaopeng Xing <zpxing@gmail.com>
> Hi all,
>
> I am using the latest minimal and try to compile the following two files
> with luatex. The second file, using typescript and font features together,
> get a serious problem with the final pdf: punctuation centered unexpectedly
> in lines. For the first files, with no font features specified, it is OK. I
> do not know whether someone else can replicate this problem. But it
> happended on my laptop. All compiled are attached in this email.
>
> %FILE1: test1.tex
> \starttypescript[serif][myserif][name]
> \definefontsynonym[Serif][MinionPro-Regular][]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \definetypeface [myserif] [rm] [serif] [myserif] [default]
> \usetypescript[myserif]
> \setupbodyfont[myserif,rm,12pt]
>
> \starttext
> \input zapf
> \stoptext
>
>
> %FILE2: test2.tex
> \definefontfeature[minion][language=dflt, script=latn, mode=node,
> frac=yes, onum=yes, kern=yes, liga=yes,
> dlig=yes,
> protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]
> \starttypescript[serif][myserif][name]
> \definefontsynonym[Serif][MinionPro-Regular][features=minion]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \definetypeface [myserif] [rm] [serif] [myserif] [default]
> \usetypescript[myserif]
> \setupbodyfont[myserif,rm,12pt]
>
> \starttext
> \input zapf
> \stoptext
>
>
>
> --
> Zhaopeng XING
>
> Tinbergen Institute
>
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Zhaopeng XING
Tinbergen Institute
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* Re: typescript and font features bug?
2008-09-19 13:36 ` Zhaopeng Xing
@ 2008-09-19 13:39 ` Zhaopeng Xing
2008-09-20 11:00 ` Hans Hagen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Zhaopeng Xing @ 2008-09-19 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
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btw, the MinionPro version in use is
Version 2.015;PS 002.000;Core 1.0.38;makeotf.lib1.7.9032
2008/9/19 Zhaopeng Xing <zpxing@gmail.com>
> The attachment.
>
> 2008/9/19 Zhaopeng Xing <zpxing@gmail.com>
>
> Hi all,
>>
>> I am using the latest minimal and try to compile the following two files
>> with luatex. The second file, using typescript and font features together,
>> get a serious problem with the final pdf: punctuation centered unexpectedly
>> in lines. For the first files, with no font features specified, it is OK. I
>> do not know whether someone else can replicate this problem. But it
>> happended on my laptop. All compiled are attached in this email.
>>
>> %FILE1: test1.tex
>> \starttypescript[serif][myserif][name]
>> \definefontsynonym[Serif][MinionPro-Regular][]
>> \stoptypescript
>>
>> \definetypeface [myserif] [rm] [serif] [myserif] [default]
>> \usetypescript[myserif]
>> \setupbodyfont[myserif,rm,12pt]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \input zapf
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> %FILE2: test2.tex
>> \definefontfeature[minion][language=dflt, script=latn, mode=node,
>> frac=yes, onum=yes, kern=yes, liga=yes,
>> dlig=yes,
>> protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]
>> \starttypescript[serif][myserif][name]
>> \definefontsynonym[Serif][MinionPro-Regular][features=minion]
>> \stoptypescript
>>
>> \definetypeface [myserif] [rm] [serif] [myserif] [default]
>> \usetypescript[myserif]
>> \setupbodyfont[myserif,rm,12pt]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \input zapf
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Zhaopeng XING
>>
>> Tinbergen Institute
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Zhaopeng XING
>
> Tinbergen Institute
>
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Zhaopeng XING
Tinbergen Institute
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* Re: typescript and font features bug?
2008-09-19 13:36 ` Zhaopeng Xing
2008-09-19 13:39 ` Zhaopeng Xing
@ 2008-09-20 11:00 ` Hans Hagen
2008-09-20 16:24 ` Zhaopeng Xing
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-09-20 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Zhaopeng Xing wrote:
> The attachment.
remark: using those st ligatures is pretty annoying (ok for older docs
in french etc)
the funny punctuation is probably due to the frac features .. i found
(in other fonts) that frac is a rather weird feature in the sense that
it has to be applied very selectively if only because the contextual
analysis definitions might not be complete at all
for me it makes such features rather useless and i'll probably cook up
my own solution by simply parsing the node list and replacing glyphs; on
the other hand, even then we end up with suboptimal outcome
Hans
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2008-09-20 11:00 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2008-09-20 16:24 ` Zhaopeng Xing
2008-09-20 17:53 ` Jianning Dong
2008-09-21 5:26 ` Yue Wang
2008-09-21 5:36 ` Yue Wang
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From: Zhaopeng Xing @ 2008-09-20 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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It seems that the problem is only happened to my laptop. But I am sure that
the minimal was properly installed. Maybe is it a rpwt!
2008/9/20 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
> Zhaopeng Xing wrote:
> > The attachment.
>
> remark: using those st ligatures is pretty annoying (ok for older docs
> in french etc)
>
> the funny punctuation is probably due to the frac features .. i found
> (in other fonts) that frac is a rather weird feature in the sense that
> it has to be applied very selectively if only because the contextual
> analysis definitions might not be complete at all
>
> for me it makes such features rather useless and i'll probably cook up
> my own solution by simply parsing the node list and replacing glyphs; on
> the other hand, even then we end up with suboptimal outcome
>
> Hans
>
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> | www.pragma-pod.nl
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* Re: typescript and font features bug?
2008-09-20 16:24 ` Zhaopeng Xing
@ 2008-09-20 17:53 ` Jianning Dong
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From: Jianning Dong @ 2008-09-20 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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well, rpwt is not an international word. I think you should wait for your rp
coming and reinstall it.
On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Zhaopeng Xing <zpxing@gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems that the problem is only happened to my laptop. But I am sure that
> the minimal was properly installed. Maybe is it a rpwt!
>
> 2008/9/20 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
>
>> Zhaopeng Xing wrote:
>> > The attachment.
>>
>> remark: using those st ligatures is pretty annoying (ok for older docs
>> in french etc)
>>
>> the funny punctuation is probably due to the frac features .. i found
>> (in other fonts) that frac is a rather weird feature in the sense that
>> it has to be applied very selectively if only because the contextual
>> analysis definitions might not be complete at all
>>
>> for me it makes such features rather useless and i'll probably cook up
>> my own solution by simply parsing the node list and replacing glyphs; on
>> the other hand, even then we end up with suboptimal outcome
>>
>> Hans
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
>> | www.pragma-pod.nl
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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>> the Wiki!
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>>
>> ___________________________________________________________________________________
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Zhaopeng XING
>
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>
>
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>
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* Re: typescript and font features bug?
2008-09-20 11:00 ` Hans Hagen
2008-09-20 16:24 ` Zhaopeng Xing
@ 2008-09-21 5:26 ` Yue Wang
2008-09-21 16:07 ` Hans Hagen
2008-09-21 5:36 ` Yue Wang
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From: Yue Wang @ 2008-09-21 5:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
I can confirm it is related to the frac featue.
The fonts in Acrobat Reader work ok.
However, Adobe FontFolio version appears to produce the problem.
Moreover, Adobe Brioso has the same problem.
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Zhaopeng Xing wrote:
>> The attachment.
>
> remark: using those st ligatures is pretty annoying (ok for older docs
> in french etc)
>
> the funny punctuation is probably due to the frac features .. i found
> (in other fonts) that frac is a rather weird feature in the sense that
> it has to be applied very selectively if only because the contextual
> analysis definitions might not be complete at all
>
> for me it makes such features rather useless and i'll probably cook up
> my own solution by simply parsing the node list and replacing glyphs; on
> the other hand, even then we end up with suboptimal outcome
>
> Hans
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
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> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
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> | www.pragma-pod.nl
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* Re: typescript and font features bug?
2008-09-20 11:00 ` Hans Hagen
2008-09-20 16:24 ` Zhaopeng Xing
2008-09-21 5:26 ` Yue Wang
@ 2008-09-21 5:36 ` Yue Wang
2008-09-21 7:23 ` Yue Wang
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From: Yue Wang @ 2008-09-21 5:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> remark: using those st ligatures is pretty annoying (ok for older docs
> in french etc)
Maybe that's why text in The Elements of Typographic Style disable the
dlig feature?
(In fact I love them and always enable dlig in my documents)
>
> the funny punctuation is probably due to the frac features .. i found
> (in other fonts) that frac is a rather weird feature in the sense that
> it has to be applied very selectively if only because the contextual
> analysis definitions might not be complete at all
>
But it is strange that other engines render it well...
> for me it makes such features rather useless and i'll probably cook up
> my own solution by simply parsing the node list and replacing glyphs; on
> the other hand, even then we end up with suboptimal outcome
>
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* Re: typescript and font features bug?
2008-09-19 13:35 typescript and font features bug? Zhaopeng Xing
2008-09-19 13:36 ` Zhaopeng Xing
@ 2008-09-20 10:54 ` Hans Hagen
1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-09-20 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Zhaopeng Xing wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am using the latest minimal and try to compile the following two files
> with luatex. The second file, using typescript and font features together,
> get a serious problem with the final pdf: punctuation centered unexpectedly
> in lines. For the first files, with no font features specified, it is OK. I
> do not know whether someone else can replicate this problem. But it
> happended on my laptop. All compiled are attached in this email.
\definefontfeature[minion][language=dflt, script=latn, mode=node,
frac=yes, onum=yes, kern=yes, liga=yes,
dlig=yes,
protrusion=quality, expansion=quality]
\starttypescript[serif][myserif][name]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][RegularBold][features=minion]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [myserif] [rm] [serif] [myserif] [default]
\usetypescript[myserif]
\setupbodyfont[myserif,rm,12pt]
\setupalign[hz,hanging]
\starttext
\input zapf
\stoptext
works ok; i don't have minion here (at least not an open type variant)
so i cannot test that font
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