Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[VnPenguin]

Hi all,
Just build teTeX 3.0, updated pdftex, ConTeXt and VnTeX on my FreeBSD
6.0-BETA5 box.
I follow step by step the description at page
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation


Now I have:
> texexec --version

 TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

               texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
               texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
                   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.30.3-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
               context : ver: 2005.08.31
               cont-en : ver: 2005.08.31  fmt: 2005.9.25  mes: english

        total run time : 1 seconds
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I do a small test with Vietnamese UTF-8 input and the PDF is very
strange: accented characters were modified all, see the shot
http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test/test-vn.png

In the log file I see:
...
fonts           : using map file: t5-public-lm
[1.1{/usr/local/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-empty.map}{
/usr/local/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}{/usr/l
ocal/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-public-lm.map}{/usr/local/sh
are/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map}{/usr/local/share/texmf-lo
cal/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}{/usr/local/share/texmf-loca
l/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}{/usr/local/share/texmf-local
/fonts/map/pdftex/context/t5-base.map}
Warning: pdfetex (file t5-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file

==> I can not found this map file in teTeX's and ConTeXt's installation :(


The ConTeXt code & output files of the test:
http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test/

The latest release of VnTeX is 3.01: http://vntex.org . I dont know if
it has some things related to ConTeXt's PDF.

Anyone could help me please,

Thank you so much,

Quy NGUYEN DAI
--
http://vnoss.org
Vietnamese Open Source Software Community

Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[Hans Hagen]

VnPenguin wrote:

>I do a small test with Vietnamese UTF-8 input and the PDF is very
>strange: accented characters were modified all, see the shot
>http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test/test-vn.png
>
>In the log file I see:
>...
>fonts           : using map file: t5-public-lm
>[1.1{/usr/local/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-empty.map}{
>/usr/local/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}{/usr/l
>ocal/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-public-lm.map}{/usr/local/sh
>are/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map}{/usr/local/share/texmf-lo
>cal/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}{/usr/local/share/texmf-loca
>l/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}{/usr/local/share/texmf-local
>/fonts/map/pdftex/context/t5-base.map}
>Warning: pdfetex (file t5-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file
>
>==> I can not found this map file in teTeX's and ConTeXt's installation :(
>  
>
did you use texfont to generate the metrics

  texfont --encoding=t5 --batch type-tmf  

in that case there should be a t5-urw-palatino.map file 

otherwise, the t5-base should do the job and you can ignore the message

can you check t5-base.map?  

Hans 



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Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[Adam Lindsay]

Hans Hagen said this at Sun, 25 Sep 2005 23:31:32 +0200:

>VnPenguin wrote:
>
>>I do a small test with Vietnamese UTF-8 input and the PDF is very
>>strange: accented characters were modified all, see the shot
>>http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test/test-vn.png
>>
>>In the log file I see:
>>...
>>fonts           : using map file: t5-public-lm
>>[1.1{/usr/local/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-
>empty.map}{
>>/usr/local/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-base.map}
>{/usr/l
>>ocal/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-public-lm.map}{/usr/
>local/sh
>>are/texmf-local/fonts/map/pdftex/context/ec-base.map}{/usr/local/share/
>texmf-lo
>>cal/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-ams-base.map}{/usr/local/share/
>texmf-loca
>>l/fonts/map/pdftex/context/original-public-lm.map}{/usr/local/share/
>texmf-local
>>/fonts/map/pdftex/context/t5-base.map}
>>Warning: pdfetex (file t5-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file
>>
>>==> I can not found this map file in teTeX's and ConTeXt's installation :(
>>  
>>
>did you use texfont to generate the metrics
>
>  texfont --encoding=t5 --batch type-tmf  
>
>in that case there should be a t5-urw-palatino.map file 
>
>otherwise, the t5-base should do the job and you can ignore the message
>
>can you check t5-base.map?  

or, can you check to see if type-dis gets loaded, and that you have:
\usetypescript [berry] [t5]
?
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Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[Taco Hoekwater]

VnPenguin wrote:
> 
> I do a small test with Vietnamese UTF-8 input and the PDF is very
> strange: accented characters were modified all, see the shot
> http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test/test-vn.png

This looks like a problem with with unic-030.tex file: I'd guess
that the

	\ifcase\numexpr#1-158\relax

at the top should have been

	\ifcase\numexpr#1-160\relax

(The warning about the map file is irrelevant)

Greetings, Taco

hyperlink references

[Albrecht Kauffmann]

Hi all,

is it possible to insert hyperlink references in ConTeXt, in analogy to
the \href command in LaTeX?


With many thanks in advance
Albrecht

Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[VnPenguin]

On 9/25/05, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> VnPenguin wrote:
...
> >Warning: pdfetex (file t5-urw-palatino.map): cannot open font map file
> >
> >==> I can not found this map file in teTeX's and ConTeXt's installation :(
> >
> >
> did you use texfont to generate the metrics
>
>   texfont --encoding=t5 --batch type-tmf
>
> in that case there should be a t5-urw-palatino.map file

Do you speak about metrics files of VnTeX ? or of ConTeXt ?

> otherwise, the t5-base should do the job and you can ignore the message
>
> can you check t5-base.map?

How to check it ? I'm NULL about TeX language :-) I have uploaded it to:
http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test/t5-base.txt
(extension .map was changed by me when uploading to web server).

Thanks

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Vietnamese Open Source Software Community

Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[VnPenguin]

On 9/26/05, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
>
>
> VnPenguin wrote:
> >
> > I do a small test with Vietnamese UTF-8 input and the PDF is very
> > strange: accented characters were modified all, see the shot
> > http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test/test-vn.png
>
> This looks like a problem with with unic-030.tex file: I'd guess
> that the
>
>         \ifcase\numexpr#1-158\relax
>
> at the top should have been
>
>         \ifcase\numexpr#1-160\relax
>
> (The warning about the map file is irrelevant)
>

Just tried this. The same wrong PDF as previous test.

Thanks,
--
http://vnoss.org
Vietnamese Open Source Software Community

Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[Taco Hoekwater]

VnPenguin wrote:
>>This looks like a problem with with unic-030.tex file: I'd guess
>>that the
>>
>>        \ifcase\numexpr#1-158\relax
>>
>>at the top should have been
>>
>>        \ifcase\numexpr#1-160\relax
>>
>>(The warning about the map file is irrelevant)
>>
> Just tried this. The same wrong PDF as previous test.

You have to re-generate the formats, otherwise nothing will
change. AFAIK, something definately should change in the
output (not certain that it will be right, but ...)

Cheers,
Taco

Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[VnPenguin]

On 9/26/05, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
> VnPenguin wrote:
> >>This looks like a problem with with unic-030.tex file: I'd guess
> >>that the
> >>
> >>        \ifcase\numexpr#1-158\relax
> >>
> >>at the top should have been
> >>
> >>        \ifcase\numexpr#1-160\relax
> >>
> >>(The warning about the map file is irrelevant)
> >>
> > Just tried this. The same wrong PDF as previous test.
>
> You have to re-generate the formats, otherwise nothing will
> change. AFAIK, something definately should change in the
> output (not certain that it will be right, but ...)
>

Yes, after modifying the file, I ran "fmtutil --refresh", that's not enough ?

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Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[VnPenguin]

> >==> I can not found this map file in teTeX's and ConTeXt's installation :(
> >
> >
> did you use texfont to generate the metrics
>
>   texfont --encoding=t5 --batch type-tmf
>
> in that case there should be a t5-urw-palatino.map file
>
> otherwise, the t5-base should do the job and you can ignore the message
>
> can you check t5-base.map?
>

Hi Hans,
Just test again with ConTeXt 2005.01.31, it's OK. I added also upper
case accented character in my test code. All files are uploaded at:
  http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/context/test-20050131/

I'll try build again teTeX & ConTeXt under Linux and tell you about new test.

Thanks

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http://vnoss.org
Vietnamese Open Source Software Community

Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[Taco Hoekwater]

VnPenguin wrote:
>>You have to re-generate the formats, otherwise nothing will
>>change. AFAIK, something definately should change in the
>>output (not certain that it will be right, but ...)
>>
> 
> Yes, after modifying the file, I ran "fmtutil --refresh", that's not enough ?

Truthfully, I am not sure.

Since teTeX 3.0 and its non-existent engine support, I  always run

   texexec --make --all

and ignore fmtutil completely. There is just no way for me to keep
my executables apart without engine support. And then there is the
separation between fmtutil-sys and fmtutil for users, so that, even
when you are root, 'fmtutil' is still not a 'system command'.

So: perhaps you now have a format with your changed file, and
perhaps not, I really do not know. If you feel up to it, perhaps
you can send me the utf-8 document in an e-mail message (zipped
or tarred, to prevent e-mail clients' messing with it).

Good luck, Taco

Re: Cont 2005.08.31: problem with vietnamese utf8

[VnPenguin]

On 9/26/05, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> wrote:
> VnPenguin wrote:
> >>You have to re-generate the formats, otherwise nothing will
> >>change. AFAIK, something definately should change in the
> >>output (not certain that it will be right, but ...)
> >>
> >
> > Yes, after modifying the file, I ran "fmtutil --refresh", that's not enough ?
>
> Truthfully, I am not sure.
>
> Since teTeX 3.0 and its non-existent engine support, I  always run
>
>    texexec --make --all
>
> and ignore fmtutil completely. There is just no way for me to keep
> my executables apart without engine support. And then there is the
> separation between fmtutil-sys and fmtutil for users, so that, even
> when you are root, 'fmtutil' is still not a 'system command'.
>
> So: perhaps you now have a format with your changed file, and
> perhaps not, I really do not know. If you feel up to it, perhaps
> you can send me the utf-8 document in an e-mail message (zipped
> or tarred, to prevent e-mail clients' messing with it).
>
> Good luck, Taco
>

Hi Taco,
You're really a guru !
It's OK now after doing your suggestion and run "texexec --make --all"
(for both user & root, i'm not sure, so I run both :-))

Thank you so much,

Regards,

Quy
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http://vnoss.org
Vietnamese Open Source Software Community