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* Concerning \startTEXpage ... \stopTEXpage... again
@ 2020-12-07  5:15 Jairo A. del Rio
  2020-12-07  8:58 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jairo A. del Rio @ 2020-12-07  5:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi. Thanks to Hans for the quick fixes. However, some examples are still
misbehaving.
See the following:

\setupbodyfont[70pt]
\starttext
\startTEXpage
\framed{$a >> n = \left\lfloor\frac{a}{2^n}\right\rfloor$}
\stopTEXpage
\stoptext

It works in MkIV, but it has the right margin cut with LMTX. Also, both
MkIV and LMTX give cropped formulas when \framed is absent in the example
above. Thank you in advance for any feedback.

Best regards,

Jairo :)

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* Re: Concerning \startTEXpage ... \stopTEXpage... again
  2020-12-07  5:15 Concerning \startTEXpage ... \stopTEXpage... again Jairo A. del Rio
@ 2020-12-07  8:58 ` Hans Hagen
  2020-12-07  9:03   ` Jairo A. del Rio
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-12-07  8:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Jairo A. del Rio

On 12/7/2020 6:15 AM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:
> Hi. Thanks to Hans for the quick fixes. However, some examples are still 
> misbehaving.
> See the following:
> 
> \setupbodyfont[70pt]
> \starttext
> \startTEXpage
> \framed{$a >> n = \left\lfloor\frac{a}{2^n}\right\rfloor$}
> \stopTEXpage
> \stoptext
> 
> It works in MkIV, but it has the right margin cut with LMTX. Also, both 
> MkIV and LMTX give cropped formulas when \framed is absent in the 
> example above. Thank you in advance for any feedback.
be careful with terms like 'bug' or 'misbehaving' ... in this case it's 
what one expects

(1) this mechanism creates / operates in a vbox (using a hbox might have 
been nicer in retrospect but then you would have more issues unless 
configured)

(2) so, we need some default hsize to start with and this is the text 
width by defalut unless you set one with the 'width' argument or when
you pass [align=]

(3) cropping takes place after all has been typeset but happens within
the width, again, this could be made more tolerant but then other cases 
will fail

with mechanisms like there is always a catch: handle this well and 
something else will fail (when it works as expected it's seen as a 
feature and otherwise it's considered a bug)

Hans

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* Re: Concerning \startTEXpage ... \stopTEXpage... again
  2020-12-07  8:58 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2020-12-07  9:03   ` Jairo A. del Rio
  2020-12-07  9:46     ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Jairo A. del Rio @ 2020-12-07  9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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Understood. Sorry, I wasn't meant to be rude. In such cases, how should I
proceed? Is there a better way?
Thank you in advance.

Cordially,

Jairo :)

El lun, 7 de dic. de 2020 a la(s) 03:58, Hans Hagen (j.hagen@xs4all.nl)
escribió:

> On 12/7/2020 6:15 AM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:
> > Hi. Thanks to Hans for the quick fixes. However, some examples are still
> > misbehaving.
> > See the following:
> >
> > \setupbodyfont[70pt]
> > \starttext
> > \startTEXpage
> > \framed{$a >> n = \left\lfloor\frac{a}{2^n}\right\rfloor$}
> > \stopTEXpage
> > \stoptext
> >
> > It works in MkIV, but it has the right margin cut with LMTX. Also, both
> > MkIV and LMTX give cropped formulas when \framed is absent in the
> > example above. Thank you in advance for any feedback.
> be careful with terms like 'bug' or 'misbehaving' ... in this case it's
> what one expects
>
> (1) this mechanism creates / operates in a vbox (using a hbox might have
> been nicer in retrospect but then you would have more issues unless
> configured)
>
> (2) so, we need some default hsize to start with and this is the text
> width by defalut unless you set one with the 'width' argument or when
> you pass [align=]
>
> (3) cropping takes place after all has been typeset but happens within
> the width, again, this could be made more tolerant but then other cases
> will fail
>
> with mechanisms like there is always a catch: handle this well and
> something else will fail (when it works as expected it's seen as a
> feature and otherwise it's considered a bug)
>
> Hans
>
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>                Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
>         tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl
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>

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* Re: Concerning \startTEXpage ... \stopTEXpage... again
  2020-12-07  9:03   ` Jairo A. del Rio
@ 2020-12-07  9:46     ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-12-07  9:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jairo A. del Rio; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 12/7/2020 10:03 AM, Jairo A. del Rio wrote:
> Understood. Sorry, I wasn't meant to be rude. In such cases, how should 

Regarding the the 'tagging' as 'bug' ... it's more that once a question 
mentions 'bug' it no longer serves as 'general question' with 'possible 
answer' for anyone.

> I proceed? Is there a better way?

[align=]

will make it a hbox

just use similar k/v as with framed

Hans

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