* Converting footnotes to endnotes @ 2021-06-03 20:09 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 2021-06-03 20:17 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2021-06-04 18:06 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2021-06-03 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Dear gang, Generally, I do not use endnotes - see Robert Bringhurst's criticisms of endnotes in typography - but a publisher is demanding them. Converting footnotes to endnotes must be quite simple yet I'm missing it: \setupnotation[footnote] [way=bychapter] % \setupnote[footnote] % [way=bychapter] \starttext \startsection[title={},reference={}] \input ward \startfootnote \input ward \stopfootnote{} \input ward \startfootnote \input ward \stopfootnote{} \stopsection \startsection[title={},reference={}] \input ward \startfootnote \input ward \stopfootnote{} \input ward \startfootnote \input ward \stopfootnote{} \stopsection \startsubject[title={},reference={}] \placenotes [footnote] \stopsubject \stoptext What's the best way to convert the above to endnotes? Thank you in advance! Best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80512 ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Converting footnotes to endnotes 2021-06-03 20:09 Converting footnotes to endnotes Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2021-06-03 20:17 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2021-06-03 21:38 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 2021-06-04 18:06 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2021-06-03 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد schrieb am 03.06.2021 um 22:09: > Dear gang, > > Generally, I do not use endnotes - see Robert Bringhurst's criticisms > of endnotes in typography - but a publisher is demanding them. > Converting footnotes to endnotes must be quite simple yet I'm missing it: > > \setupnotation[footnote] > [way=bychapter] Do you use chapters? > % \setupnote[footnote] > % [way=bychapter] \setupnote [footnote] [location=none] Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Converting footnotes to endnotes 2021-06-03 20:17 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2021-06-03 21:38 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2021-06-03 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Thu, 03 Jun 2021 14:17:15 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote: > \setupnote > [footnote] > [location=none] That did the trick; many thanks! ============== \setupnote [footnote] [location=none] \starttext \startsection[title={},reference={}] \input ward \startfootnote \input ward \stopfootnote{} \input ward \startfootnote \input ward \stopfootnote{} \stopsection \startsection[title={},reference={}] \input ward \startfootnote \input ward \stopfootnote{} \input ward \startfootnote \input ward \stopfootnote{} \stopsection \startsubject[title={},reference={}] \placenotes [footnote] \stopsubject \stoptext ============== Best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80512 ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Converting footnotes to endnotes 2021-06-03 20:09 Converting footnotes to endnotes Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 2021-06-03 20:17 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2021-06-04 18:06 ` Hans Hagen 2021-06-05 19:51 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2021-06-04 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد On 6/3/2021 10:09 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: > Dear gang, > > Generally, I do not use endnotes - see Robert Bringhurst's criticisms of > endnotes in typography - but a publisher is demanding them. Converting > footnotes to endnotes must be quite simple yet I'm missing it: Ah ... those publishers ... so you still need their demands? They should be glad that they get ready typeset books (I bet they often don't do a better job themselves, maybe aven introduce errors in the complex things you do). I thought they keyed it into word eventually anyway. End notes are definitely handier when they outsource I guess. Does that mean no more critical editions? I admit that I do like endnotes more than footnotes when they for instance contain some more about the origin of some idea (or so) and suggest further reading ... (1) then i can read them all in one go (if I want) and (2) it's kind of a test if one can remember what it points back to. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: Converting footnotes to endnotes 2021-06-04 18:06 ` Hans Hagen @ 2021-06-05 19:51 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2021-06-05 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Hans Hagen On Fri, 04 Jun 2021 12:06:31 -0600, Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote: > On 6/3/2021 10:09 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: >> Dear gang, >> Generally, I do not use endnotes - see Robert Bringhurst's criticisms >> of endnotes in typography - but a publisher is demanding them. >> Converting footnotes to endnotes must be quite simple yet I'm missing >> it: > Ah ... those publishers ... so you still need their demands? They should > be glad that they get ready typeset books (I bet they often don't do a > better job themselves, maybe aven introduce errors in the complex things > you do). The main publishers are constituted by a multiplicity of bureaucracies where the left hand hardly knows what the right hand is doing. No amount of reasoning can get through to these people. And if you're working with an intermediate editor of a book, the situation is beyond hopeless. > I thought they keyed it into word eventually anyway. Yep. Luigi and I spent considerable time on a ConTeXt => Word workflow, but what was so far accomplished is not sufficiently general; it needs more work before it is useful enough to be released. Unfortunately, not even ConTeXt'ers have expressed much interest, otherwise would suggest releasing it as a community project.. So I'm caught between academia (Word or, occasionally, LaTeX) and my strong preference for and investment in ConTeXt.. > End notes are definitely handier when they outsource I guess. Does that > mean no more critical editions? Critical editions with apparatus converted to endnotes? Never! > I admit that I do like endnotes more than footnotes when they for > instance contain some more about the origin of some idea (or so) and > suggest further reading ... (1) then i can read them all in one go (if I > want) and (2) it's kind of a test if one can remember what it points > back to. Hm, this would make for an interesting discussion. I suppose if a set of endnotes (to a chapter, say, or a book) are written in a manner such that, in the spirit of your 1) they form a single whole, then sure, why not? But if that's the case, I would probably prefer an explicit, structured appendix to endnotes. As for your 2), have always found going back or forth annoying - which takes me back to Bringhurst's rule.. -- Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80512 ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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