More precise \rlaps for the previous MWE: \hbox{\rlap{\ruledhbox {\transparentgreen\tfx c\symbol{glottalhamzah}c}}% \hskip-.075em \ruledhbox {\transparentred c\symbol{glottalhamzah}c}} \hbox{\rlap{\ruledhbox {\transparentgreen\tfx c\symbol{glottalayn}c}}% \hskip-.075em \ruledhbox {\transparentred c\symbol{glottalayn}c}} -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 On Aug 12, 2023, 4:11 PM -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد , wrote: \hbox{\rlap{\ruledhbox {\transparentgreen\tfx c\symbol{glottalhamzah}c}}% \hskip-.09em \ruledhbox {\transparentred c\symbol{glottalhamzah}c}} \hbox{\rlap{\ruledhbox {\transparentgreen\tfx c\symbol{glottalayn}c}}% \ruledhbox {\transparentred c\symbol{glottalayn}c}} : Note the \rlap's (see attached pdf): we see that \tfx doesn't scale the \symbol, although \tfa and higher do work.