* [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working
@ 2023-10-24 0:24 Hamid,Idris
2023-10-24 13:18 ` [NTG-context] " Otared Kavian
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From: Hamid,Idris @ 2023-10-24 0:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear gang,
The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE:
==============
% ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX
\setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred]
\definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen]
\setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen]
\starttext
\startmarginrule[1]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\blank
\startsidebar[Sidebar]
\input zapf
\stopsidebar
\stoptext
==============
In the output, either
i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or
ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly).
Is is a bug?
A second question: Is either mechanism preferable over the other? That is: In LMTX, what is the best mechanism to use?
Thank you in advance for any guidance.
Best wishes
--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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* [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
2023-10-24 0:24 [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working Hamid,Idris
@ 2023-10-24 13:18 ` Otared Kavian
2023-10-24 13:33 ` Hamid,Idris
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2023-10-24 13:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hamid,Idris, mailing list for ConTeXt users
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Hi Idris,
Your code works fine on my machine (version 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX on MacOS 11.7.10). I see both bars correctly.
Best regards: Otared
> On 24 Oct 2023, at 02:24, Hamid,Idris <Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU> wrote:
>
> Dear gang,
>
> The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE:
>
> ==============
> % ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX
>
> \setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred]
>
> \definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen]
> \setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen]
>
> \starttext
> \startmarginrule[1]
> \input ward
> \stopmarginrule
>
> \blank
>
> \startsidebar[Sidebar]
> \input zapf
> \stopsidebar
> \stoptext
> ==============
>
> In the output, either
>
> i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or
> ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly).
>
> Is is a bug?
>
> A second question: Is either mechanism preferable over the other? That is: In LMTX, what is the best mechanism to use?
>
> Thank you in advance for any guidance.
>
> Best wishes
> --
> Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
> Department of Philosophy
> Colorado State University
> Fort Collins, CO 80523
>
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* [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
2023-10-24 13:18 ` [NTG-context] " Otared Kavian
@ 2023-10-24 13:33 ` Hamid,Idris
2023-10-24 14:04 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Hamid,Idris @ 2023-10-24 13:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Otared Kavian, mailing list for ConTeXt users
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Hi Otared,
Many thanks. Could you kindly open the pdf I sent as well? How does that look?
Here, on Windows 11, the bars do not appear on sumatra, adobe, or nitropdf.
Best wishes
Idris
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Date 10/24/2023 7:18:40 AM
Subject Re: [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working
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Hi Idris,
Your code works fine on my machine (version 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX on MacOS 11.7.10). I see both bars correctly.
Best regards: Otared
On 24 Oct 2023, at 02:24, Hamid,Idris <Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU<mailto:Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU>> wrote:
Dear gang,
The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE:
==============
% ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX
\setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred]
\definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen]
\setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen]
\starttext
\startmarginrule[1]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\blank
\startsidebar[Sidebar]
\input zapf
\stopsidebar
\stoptext
==============
In the output, either
i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or
ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly).
Is is a bug?
A second question: Is either mechanism preferable over the other? That is: In LMTX, what is the best mechanism to use?
Thank you in advance for any guidance.
Best wishes
--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Phone: +33 6 88 26 70 95
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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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* [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
2023-10-24 13:33 ` Hamid,Idris
@ 2023-10-24 14:04 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2023-10-24 15:08 ` Hamid,Idris
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2023-10-24 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Am 24.10.23 um 15:33 schrieb Hamid,Idris:
> Hi Otared,
>
> Many thanks. Could you kindly open the pdf I sent as well? How does that
> look?
>
> Here, on Windows 11, the bars do not appear on sumatra, adobe, or nitropdf.
I checked on MacOS with Preview, Acrobat Pro and PDF Studio – no bars in
your PDF.
But your code gives apparently correct results on my machine,
ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX fmt: 2023.10.19
Maybe try to re-make the format? Check all files in the log – is there
something from a local/personal texmf tree?
Hraban
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* [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
2023-10-24 14:04 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2023-10-24 15:08 ` Hamid,Idris
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From: Hamid,Idris @ 2023-10-24 15:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, ntg-context
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Date 10/24/2023 8:04:34 AM
Subject [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
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Am 24.10.23 um 15:33 schrieb Hamid,Idris:
Hi Otared,
Many thanks. Could you kindly open the pdf I sent as well? How does that
look?
Here, on Windows 11, the bars do not appear on sumatra, adobe, or nitropdf.
I checked on MacOS with Preview, Acrobat Pro and PDF Studio – no bars in
your PDF.
But your code gives apparently correct results on my machine,
ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX fmt: 2023.10.19
Maybe try to re-make the format? Check all files in the log – is there
something from a local/personal texmf tree?
Many thanks, Henning. I tried remaking the format, updating -- to no avail. The log doesn't seem to show anything unusual, no texmf-project files, etc.
Finally, I shutdown and restarted the system, on the premise that some pdf library or other file is acting up. And voila! it seems to work now -- see attached.
It remains a mystery as to what could possibly have caused this problem, or why a system restart made it go away.
Hopefully the problem will not return, but we'll see..
Thanks to all who replied.
Best wishes
--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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* [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
2023-10-24 12:17 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2023-10-24 13:03 ` Hamid,Idris
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Date 10/24/2023 6:17:24 AM
Subject [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
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On 10/24/2023 1:39 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote:
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From "Hamid,Idris" <Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU<mailto:Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU><mailto:Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU>>
To "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl><mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>>
Date 10/23/2023 6:24:38 PM
Subject [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working
Dear gang,
The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE:
==============
% ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX
\setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred]
\definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen]
\setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen]
\starttext
\startmarginrule[1]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\blank
\startsidebar[Sidebar]
\input zapf
\stopsidebar
\stoptext
==============
In the output, either
i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or
ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly).
Is this a bug?
maybe your viewer is bugged
Before sending to the list, I tested the pdf in sumatra (default), adobe, and nitropdf - same result. If three distinct viewers don't show it, then something else must be wrong.
Could you open the pdf I sent to the list? What do you see?
Best wishes
--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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* [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
2023-10-24 11:39 Hamid,Idris
@ 2023-10-24 12:17 ` Hans Hagen
2023-10-24 13:03 ` Hamid,Idris
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2023-10-24 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 10/24/2023 1:39 PM, Hamid,Idris wrote:
> ------ Original Message ------
> From "Hamid,Idris" <Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU<mailto:Idris.Hamid@ColoState.EDU>>
> To "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>>
> Date 10/23/2023 6:24:38 PM
> Subject [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working
>
> Dear gang,
>
> The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE:
>
> ==============
> % ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX
>
> \setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred]
>
> \definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen]
> \setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen]
>
> \starttext
> \startmarginrule[1]
> \input ward
> \stopmarginrule
>
> \blank
>
> \startsidebar[Sidebar]
> \input zapf
> \stopsidebar
> \stoptext
> ==============
>
> In the output, either
>
> i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or
> ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly).
>
> Is this a bug?
maybe your viewer is bugged
Hans
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* [NTG-context] Re: sidebar and marginrule not working
@ 2023-10-24 11:39 Hamid,Idris
2023-10-24 12:17 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hamid,Idris @ 2023-10-24 11:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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To "mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl<mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>>
Date 10/23/2023 6:24:38 PM
Subject [NTG-context] sidebar and marginrule not working
Dear gang,
The appears to be something wrong with the sidebar and marginrule mechanisms. MWE:
==============
% ConTeXt ver: 2023.09.26 18:19 LMTX
\setupmarginrule[1][rulecolor=darkred]
\definesidebar[Sidebar][rulethickness=0.28pt,distance=3pt,rulecolor=darkgreen]
\setupsidebar[rulecolor=darkgreen]
\starttext
\startmarginrule[1]
\input ward
\stopmarginrule
\blank
\startsidebar[Sidebar]
\input zapf
\stopsidebar
\stoptext
==============
In the output, either
i) the rules do not appear at all (most attempts); or
ii) the rules appear for a split-second then disappear (using sumatrapdf as the viewer, so the pdf updates on the fly).
Is this a bug?
A second question: Is either mechanism preferable over the other? That is: In LMTX, what is the best mechanism to use?
Thank you in advance for any guidance.
Here is the pdf that is a result of the MWE above:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/r18ao8dhpz8m5cj3jk7kv/test-sidebar.pdf?rlkey=slgmiu2wst5xfv3adydhbprj4&dl=0
Also attached.
Best wishes
--
Idris Samawi Hamid, Professor
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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