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From: Carlos <linguafalsa@gmail.com>
To: ntg-context@ntg.nl
Subject: [NTG-context]  Re: redefine space to be the same as \␣ similar to knuthian approach
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2023 11:51:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ev363jydrsoitzofqe3xv33bsql2vne3i7m7lhsjc3gxv5sl7s@2enk7nvzi4a2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92aaaf15-44a2-e4e4-f270-b6e60d58cf56@gmail.com>

On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 03:38:15PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Carlos schrieb am 19.08.2023 um 15:32:
> > On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 08:58:58PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > 1. Learn to two provide a working minimal example which shows the problem.
> > > 
> > Did the minimal example I provided earlier wasn't enough for you?
> > 
> > Besides, You know perfectly well that \stoptext is not even necessary,
> > superflous; it's not required to compile any context flavor file for
> > ages now.
> > 
> > So I suggest you to save those keystrokes for other tasks. Not those,
> > petty petty betty. I know it's hard to teach an ol' dog new tricks,
> > but… it's worth to try! right?
> 
> Please explain why this example (which is a valid ConTeXt document) works
> 

Opening a group with \starttext makes no sense because there is nothing after \stoptext.

The possibility to nest \starttext is necessary when you \startproduct etc. where components can be be documents on its own and this means \startcomponent includes \starttext in its
definition.

> %%%% begin example
> \starttext
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> \stoptext
> %%%% end example
> 
> but this doesn't.
> 
> %%%% begin example
> \starttext
> 
> \starttext
> %%%% end example
> 
> Wolfgang

Take a look at the command line when you process a file and you should see something like this:

As you can see the luatex engine processes the file cont-yes.mkiv and not your document which put as argument to context. Your document is just read by cont-yes.mkiv and at the end of the document ConTeXt inserts an extra \stoptext which is ignored when your document
is valid (equal number of \starttext and \stoptext).

Wolfgang. I do appreciate your emphasis and your input on all of this.
I do. I really do. But we can't go over this, over and over again. Do
you know who said the above? Not me. You. Do you know whose remarks
are those? Not mine.  Yours.

Replace cont-yes.mkiv with the newer equivalent. And you're right though. \starttext is not even needed most of the times. 

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-20 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-18  9:39 [NTG-context] " Carlos
2023-08-18 16:20 ` [NTG-context] " Mikael Sundqvist
2023-08-18 18:17   ` Carlos
2023-08-18 18:54     ` [NTG-context] unsubscribe Thomas Floeren via ntg-context
2023-08-18 18:26   ` [NTG-context] Re: redefine space to be the same as \␣ similar to knuthian approach Carlos
2023-08-18 18:48     ` Carlos
2023-08-18 18:58       ` Wolfgang Schuster
2023-08-19 13:32         ` Carlos
2023-08-19 14:06           ` Mikael Sundqvist
2023-08-20 13:38           ` Wolfgang Schuster
2023-08-20 15:51             ` Carlos [this message]
2023-08-20 16:41               ` Wolfgang Schuster
2023-08-20 16:58                 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
2023-08-20 16:41               ` Hans Hagen
2023-08-21 12:22                 ` Carlos
2023-08-21 12:55                   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2023-08-18 21:24       ` Hans Hagen

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