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Yes, Adam, that works. Though it can be a laborious solution, since it 
means creating keys for everything in a sub entry list (and I have many 
instances, 40 or more in some cases). However, I did not ask for a 
'simple' solution, just a solution! Thank you.

Julian

On 1/2/22 11:09, Adam Reviczky wrote:
> Hi Julian,
>
> How about using the keys in every instance?
>
> \setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
> \defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
>
> \starttext
> P\index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti} (experts)}
> B\index[Plenary+beriti]{Plenary Council+{\it beriti} (experts)}
> A\index[Plenary+aeriti]{Plenary Council+aeriti (experts)}
>
> S\index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
> B\index[animals+bpecial]{animals+bpecial}
> A\index[animals+apecial]{animals+‘apecial’}
> U\index[animals+upecial]{animals+‘upecial’}
> T\index[animals+tpecial]{animals+tpecial}
>
> \placeindex
> \stoptext
>
> See result in: https://live.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/result.cgi?id=j46XhZ
>
> Adam
>
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:38 PM jbf via ntg-context 
> <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
>
>     Let me come back to the unresolved (for me) question of two
>     situations in sub entries to a book index (register). Sub entries
>     that have formatting or sub entries that are surrounded by quote
>     marks (straight or curly, it makes no difference) do not appear in
>     the correct alphabetical order.
>
>     Two attempts on my part:
>
>     text before \index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti}
>     (experts)} text after.
>
>     text before \index{animals+‘special kinds’} text after. Or
>     alternatively, \index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}
>
>     The setup for my register is a pretty standard one. The processor
>     is not for the 'periti' case above but I use it for book titles.
>
>     \setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]
>
>     \defineprocessor[special][style=italic]
>
>     In the periti case it is the \it command that clearly interferes
>     with correct alphabetic positioning in the sub entry list. Placing
>     +periti in the key does not overcome that problem.
>
>     In the ‘special kinds’ case it is the initial single quote mark
>     (‘) that causes the problem. The item comes last in the sub entry
>     list. And if i include a key [special], then it comes first in the
>     sub entry list. Either way, it is out of the desired sorting order.
>
>     I believe I have followed the helpful suggestions of various ones,
>     but it is always possible that I have not fully understood those
>     suggestions. The reality is that at the moment the issue remains
>     unresolved for me. Any further wisdom out there to offer me?
>
>     Julian
>
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    <p>Yes, Adam, that works. Though it can be a laborious solution,
      since it means creating keys for everything in a sub entry list
      (and I have many instances, 40 or more in some cases). However, I
      did not ask for a 'simple' solution, just a solution! Thank you.</p>
    <p>Julian<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/2/22 11:09, Adam Reviczky wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CABaoHutx-0FK9X2-xoy8Zw27BsKGCgQYRS3_XP84PVUEoJYS3g@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div>Hi Julian,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>How about using the keys in every instance?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>\setupregister[index][n=1,method={zc,pc,zm,pm,uc},style=WORD]<br>
          \defineprocessor[special][style=italic]<br>
          <br>
          \starttext<br>
          P\index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it periti}
          (experts)}<br>
          B\index[Plenary+beriti]{Plenary Council+{\it beriti}
          (experts)}<br>
          A\index[Plenary+aeriti]{Plenary Council+aeriti (experts)}<br>
          <br>
          S\index[animals+special]{animals+‘special kinds’}<br>
          B\index[animals+bpecial]{animals+bpecial}<br>
          A\index[animals+apecial]{animals+‘apecial’}<br>
          U\index[animals+upecial]{animals+‘upecial’}<br>
          T\index[animals+tpecial]{animals+tpecial}<br>
          <br>
          \placeindex<br>
          \stoptext</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>See result in: <a
            href="https://live.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/result.cgi?id=j46XhZ"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://live.contextgarden.net/cgi-bin/result.cgi?id=j46XhZ</a></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Adam<br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 10:38
          PM jbf via ntg-context &lt;<a href="mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">ntg-context@ntg.nl</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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            <p>Let me come back to the unresolved (for me) question of
              two situations in sub entries to a book index (register).
              Sub entries that have formatting or sub entries that are
              surrounded by quote marks (straight or curly, it makes no
              difference) do not appear in the correct alphabetical
              order.</p>
            <p>Two attempts on my part:</p>
            <p>text before \index[Plenary+periti]{Plenary Council+{\it
              periti} (experts)} text after.</p>
            <p>text before \index{animals+‘special kinds’} text after.
              Or alternatively, \index[animals+special]{animals+‘special
              kinds’}</p>
            <p>The setup for my register is a pretty standard one. The
              processor is not for the 'periti' case above but I use it
              for book titles.<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span></p>
            <pre style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)">\setupregister</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">[index][n=1,method={</span><span style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,0,0)">zc</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">,pc,</span><span style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,0,0)">zm</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">,pm,</span><span style="text-decoration:underline;color:rgb(0,0,0)">uc</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">},style=WORD]</span></pre>
            <pre style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,0)">\defineprocessor</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">[special][style=italic]</span></pre>
            <p>In the periti case it is the \it command that clearly
              interferes with correct alphabetic positioning in the sub
              entry list. Placing +periti in the key does not overcome
              that problem.</p>
            <p>In the ‘special kinds’ case it is the initial single
              quote mark (‘) that causes the problem. The item comes
              last in the sub entry list. And if i include a key
              [special], then it comes first in the sub entry list.
              Either way, it is out of the desired sorting order.</p>
            <p>I believe I have followed the helpful suggestions of
              various ones, but it is always possible that I have not
              fully understood those suggestions. The reality is that at
              the moment the issue remains unresolved for me. Any
              further wisdom out there to offer me?</p>
            <p>Julian
            </p>
          </div>
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