stand-alone ConTeXt

stand-alone ConTeXt

[Carlos Breton Besnier]

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stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?

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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:
> stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?

no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the minimals as 
option




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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Kevin D. Robbins]

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Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support in
minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to support
users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using only a
command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option.

Kevin

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:
>
>> stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?
>>
>
> no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the minimals as
> option
>
>
>
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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Mohamed Bana]

why not support Emacs?  AucTeX is mature.

Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
> Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt 
> support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I 
> need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really 
> comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test 
> this option.
>
> Kevin
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl 
> <mailto:pragma@wxs.nl>> wrote:
>
>     Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:
>
>         stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?
>
>
>     no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the
>     minimals as option
>
>
>
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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Kevin D. Robbins]

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Well, I and another colleague do use Emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux
alike. The folks I'm planning to help get started with ConTeXt, though, are
as intimidated by Emacs as they are by the command line. I'm hoping that
Scite will feel a bit more natural to them.

Kevin

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mohamed Bana
<mbana.lists@googlemail.com>wrote:

> why not support Emacs?  AucTeX is mature.
>
> Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
>
>> Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support
>> in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to
>> support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using
>> only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl <mailto:
>> pragma@wxs.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>    Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:
>>
>>        stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not available?
>>
>>
>>    no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the
>>    minimals as option
>>
>>
>>
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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Khaled Hosny]

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TeXworks would be a good choice too, if you want a simple interface that
just works. It can be used as a portable application on windows too, and
I believe it can combined easily with context minimals.


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 01:06:31PM -0600, Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
> Well, I and another colleague do use Emacs on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux
> alike. The folks I'm planning to help get started with ConTeXt, though, are as
> intimidated by Emacs as they are by the command line. I'm hoping that Scite
> will feel a bit more natural to them.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Mohamed Bana <mbana.lists@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>     why not support Emacs?  AucTeX is mature.
> 
>     Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
> 
>         Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt
>         support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I
>         need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really
>         comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test
>         this option.
> 
>         Kevin
> 
>         On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:39 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl <mailto:
>         pragma@wxs.nl>> wrote:
> 
>            Carlos Breton Besnier wrote:
> 
>                stand-alone CONTEXTediting environment (windows) is not
>         available?
> 
> 
>            no, as i need to spend some time on getting scite into the
>            minimals as option
> 
> 
> 
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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins  
<krobbins@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:

> Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt  
> support in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I  
> need to support users who only work on Windows and are not really  
> comfortable using only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test  
> this option.

If you want something really comfortable for Windows users, try the  
Notepad++ setup:

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip

I don't have Vista, which uses a different dir structure for the files,  
but you can easily adopt this as needed.

Best wishes
Idris

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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Kevin D. Robbins]

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Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++.

Kevin

2009/6/11 Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد <ishamid@colostate.edu>

> On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 09:05:07 -0600, Kevin D. Robbins <
> krobbins@alumni.princeton.edu> wrote:
>
>  Good news! I just wanted to say that including Scite with ConTeXt support
>> in minimals as an option will be very helpful to me, because I need to
>> support users who only work on Windows and are not really comfortable using
>> only a command line interface. I'll be happy to test this option.
>>
>
> If you want something really comfortable for Windows users, try the
> Notepad++ setup:
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Image:Npp_ConTeXt-Uni.zip
>
> I don't have Vista, which uses a different dir structure for the files, but
> you can easily adopt this as needed.
>
> Best wishes
> Idris
>
> --
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> International Journal of Shi`i Studies
> Department of Philosophy
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> Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
> Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++.

i have texworks kind of working (stripped and patched set of 
configuration files) and at some point i will add them to the distribution

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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Yue Wang]

right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is:
gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Kevin D. Robbins wrote:
>>
>> Thanks! I'll play around a bit with TeXWorks and Notepad++.
>
> i have texworks kind of working (stripped and patched set of configuration
> files) and at some point i will add them to the distribution
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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 2009-06-13 um 04:29 schrieb Yue Wang:

> right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is:
> gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy.

of course; at best just include a whole Windows.

No, really, before providing everything in some monster install,  
better provide a Linux VM image.


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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 2009-06-13 um 04:29 schrieb Yue Wang:
> 
>> right now the most important thing missing in the distribution is:
>> gs, ruby, xml stuffs, gzip, zip, and tidy.
> 
> of course; at best just include a whole Windows.
> 
> No, really, before providing everything in some monster install, better 
> provide a Linux VM image.

the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc 
and xsltproc

it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my 
own so making mswincontex makes less sense too

however, mojca and i are working on a garden based variant (scite and 
texworks)

btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run 
specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is 
no big deal anyway

Hans


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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Yue Wang]

> btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run
> specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no
> big deal anyway

How about process the mkii document using lua script too? So
eventually we can get rid of ruby and perl.

now context script supports --pdftex and --xetex switch, but it still
fall back to texexec and texutils ruby scripts.


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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Hans Hagen]

Yue Wang wrote:
>> btw, if one uses mkiv, ruby is no longer needed unless one wants to run
>> specific scripts that are not yet luafied; but then, installing ruby is no
>> big deal anyway
> 
> How about process the mkii document using lua script too? So
> eventually we can get rid of ruby and perl.

for that i need to rewrite the index sorting in lua (plus a little bit 
of tui -> tuo handling)

> now context script supports --pdftex and --xetex switch, but it still
> fall back to texexec and texutils ruby scripts.

sure, time is limited

Hans


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Re: stand-alone ConTeXt

[Yue Wang]

> the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and
> xsltproc
>
> it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own
> so making mswincontex makes less sense too
>

What about make a mswinbonus.zip for the user who need them,
like MacTeX shipped its gs/imagemagick...


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[Joel C. Salomon]

Yue Wang wrote:
>> the mswincontext zip always provided ruby and gs and as well as xmlproc and
>> xsltproc
>>
>> it's just that now that we have the garden minimals i no longer make my own
>> so making mswincontex makes less sense too
>>
> 
> What about make a mswinbonus.zip for the user who need them,
> like MacTeX shipped its gs/imagemagick...

It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or
if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly
complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.

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> It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or
> if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly
> complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.
>

it is just context minimals' extra...
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Yue Wang wrote:
>> It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or
>> if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly
>> complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.
>>
> 
> it is just context minimals' extra...
> minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.

there will be a goodies option:

--goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs

but not many more


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[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 15.06.2009 um 17:05 schrieb Hans Hagen:

>> it is just context minimals' extra...
>> minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.
>
> there will be a goodies option:
>
> --goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs
>
> but not many more

Is it also possible to change --extras=... to --modules=... (or keep  
extra for old times sake)?

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[Mojca Miklavec]

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:05, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Yue Wang wrote:
>>>
>>> It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or
>>> if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly
>>> complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.
>>
>> it is just context minimals' extra...
>> minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.
>
> there will be a goodies option:
>
> --goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs

The option --goodies=texworks should work now. Once you run setuptex
(or if you have set the path), you should be able to call just
"texworks filename" from command line.

Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are
missing from the list ...

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[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 17:05, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Yue Wang wrote:
>>>> It depends if the Minimals are intended to be a complete TeX system or
>>>> if they are meant to be a minimal system for ConTeXt, possibly
>>>> complementing the utility programs from TeX Live.
>>> it is just context minimals' extra...
>>> minimals can still be a minimal system for ConTeXt.
>> there will be a goodies option:
>>
>> --goodies=scite,texworks,xml,gs
> 
> The option --goodies=texworks should work now. Once you run setuptex
> (or if you have set the path), you should be able to call just
> "texworks filename" from command line.
> 
> Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are
> missing from the list ...

indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case

(also, once the lua interface of texworks is stable and documented i'll 
see if i can make menus a bit more context friendly; for the moment i 
misuse the typesetting menu for a few 'features')


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[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 13:09, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are
>> missing from the list ...
>
> indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case

So ... should I start blackmailing with "I'll remove it from minimals
unless it starts supporting mkii" or rather with "I'll tell Jonathan
that your configuration doesn't support XeTeX"? :) :) :) :) :) :)

(Let's leave it up to users to install ruby themselves and it's
totally ok if mkiv stays the default, but I see no reason for not
providing XeTeX and pdfTeX support (with synctex switch on by default)
on purpose ...)

> (also, once the lua interface of texworks is stable and documented i'll see
> if i can make menus a bit more context friendly; for the moment i misuse the
> typesetting menu for a few 'features')

That's fine for me.

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[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 13:09, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>> Hans ... I suspect that ConTeXt MKII (both pdftex and xetex) are
>>> missing from the list ...
>> indeed. mkiv only as i don't want dependencies on perl/ruby in this case
> 
> So ... should I start blackmailing with "I'll remove it from minimals
> unless it starts supporting mkii" or rather with "I'll tell Jonathan
> that your configuration doesn't support XeTeX"? :) :) :) :) :) :)
> 
> (Let's leave it up to users to install ruby themselves and it's
> totally ok if mkiv stays the default, but I see no reason for not
> providing XeTeX and pdfTeX support (with synctex switch on by default)
> on purpose ...)

well, it's not that pdftex cq. xetex are not supported, but more that 
mtxrun defaults to luatex / mkiv (just as texexec defaults to pdftex) 
and *i* want to default to luatex (no matter how much you blackmail me)

users can

% engine=pdftex
% engine=xetex

at the top of their document if they want and mtxrun will then run 
texexec instead

if users want syntex on they can enable it with

\synctex=1

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On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Mojca Miklavec <
mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 19:26, luigi scarso wrote:
> >
> >> The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
> >> way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
> >> missing completely ...),
> >
> > hmm strange -- do you have an example ?
>
> For wrong paper orientation you can try (in gnuplot):
>
> set term post
> set output "x.ps"
> plot sin(x)
>
> and then convert the resulting file.

It seems that gnuplot set page orientation,
so best -dAutoRotatePages=/None
gs  -q -dNOPAUSE -dAutoRotatePages=/None  -sDEVICE=pdfwrite
-sOutputFile=x.pdf x.ps -c quit



> For missing graphic I remember
> exporting a file in OpenOffice Draw or something similar. (I can try
> to find it.)
>
Was a fault of OO ?


> > A wrapper shell around gs
> > There is also pstill
> > http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pstill.html<http://www.wizards.de/%7Efrank/pstill.html>
>
> I'll try it out just for fun :)
>
well it's seems not fun at all -- absurde command line.
But it looks like the only ps interpreter alternative of gs on Linux /
Windows  .



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[Hans Hagen]

luigi scarso wrote:
>>
>>> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
>>> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ?
>>>
>> sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script long
>> ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in order to
>> convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in eps files that interfered
>> with the process
>>
> 
> So what about a lua wrapper of libgs.so libgs.dll ?
> code should be not complicated
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/luatex_lunatic#Ghostscript

because it adds another dependency (dll/lib mess) while using the gs 
program is not much slower anyway

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[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 19:26, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
>> way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
>> missing completely ...),
>
> hmm strange -- do you have an example ?

For wrong paper orientation you can try (in gnuplot):

set term post
set output "x.ps"
plot sin(x)

and then convert the resulting file. For missing graphic I remember
exporting a file in OpenOffice Draw or something similar. (I can try
to find it.)

> By defautl gs choose rotation studying dominant text orientation on current
> page; cfr Setting page orientation
> in Ps2pdf.htm
> There is an option in pstopdf -dAutoRotatePages=/None .

Exactly that's the problem. Removing this particular option from the
default options that are applied to GS run solves the problem.

>
>> so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell,
>> I think)
>
> A wrapper shell around gs
> There is also pstill
> http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pstill.html

I'll try it out just for fun :)

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[luigi scarso]

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>
>
>> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
>> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ?
>>
>
> sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script long
> ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in order to
> convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in eps files that interfered
> with the process
>

So what about a lua wrapper of libgs.so libgs.dll ?
code should be not complicated
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/luatex_lunatic#Ghostscript

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[luigi scarso]

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On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Mojca Miklavec <
mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote:
> >
> >>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
> >>> (Had problems with it recently)
> >>
> >> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
> >> conversions, auto downsampling, etc)
> >
> > If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
> > "luafication" will use ghostscript again ?
>
>

> Unless Hans rewrites the whole GS interpreter ... yes.
>



>
> The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
> way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
> missing completely ...),

hmm strange -- do you have an example ?
By defautl gs choose rotation studying dominant text orientation on current
page; cfr Setting page orientation
in Ps2pdf.htm
There is an option in pstopdf -dAutoRotatePages=/None .


so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell,
> I think)

A wrapper shell around gs

There is also pstill
http://www.wizards.de/~frank/pstill.html


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[Hans Hagen]

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote:
>>>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
>>>> (Had problems with it recently)
>>> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
>>> conversions, auto downsampling, etc)
>> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
>> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ?
> 
> Unless Hans rewrites the whole GS interpreter ... yes.
> 
> The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
> way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
> missing completely ...), so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell,
> I think) or just call gs manually.

the problem with eps is that there are too many alternatives possible 
(also, versions of gs behave differently); there are actually a coiple 
of options (like cropping, downsampling etc) but as usual those command 
line switches are not documented -)

Hans


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[Hans Hagen]

luigi scarso wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
>> Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
>>> (Had problems with it recently)
>>>
>> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
>> conversions, auto downsampling, etc)
>>
> 
> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ?

sure, what else ... actually, pstopdf started out as some perl script 
long ago (when we started using pdftex) and we needed it not only in 
order to convert to pdf, but also to clean up some mess in eps files 
that interfered with the process

there's actually already something mtx-convert but it does not deal with 
eps

Hans

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[Mojca Miklavec]

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 17:22, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
>>> (Had problems with it recently)
>>
>> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
>> conversions, auto downsampling, etc)
>
> If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
> "luafication" will use ghostscript again ?

Unless Hans rewrites the whole GS interpreter ... yes.

The problem is that current pstopdf doesn't work reliably for me (no
way to do EPSCrop, sometimes wrong paper orientation, the graphic
missing completely ...), so I usually stick to ps2pdf (perl or shell,
I think) or just call gs manually.

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[luigi scarso]

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On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
>> (Had problems with it recently)
>>
>
> yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of
> conversions, auto downsampling, etc)
>

If I understand well, pstopdf uses ghostscript .
"luafication" will use ghostscript again ?



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[Hans Hagen]

Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
> (Had problems with it recently)

yes, will be done (we use it here in workflows with massive amounts of 
conversions, auto downsampling, etc)

Hans

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[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello,

For me, pstopdf is a number one candidate to luafication :)
(Had problems with it recently)

Vyatcheslav

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