From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
To: "Michal Vlasák" <lahcim8@gmail.com>,
"mailing list for ConTeXt users" <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Cc: Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es>
Subject: Re: upload
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2021 02:40:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f729be37-5c1f-a450-872b-0b40ea0d118d@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CF6209Z4UUZC.2D1RD3ZV43DZ8@deimos>
On 10/22/2021 5:50 PM, Michal Vlasák wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Thu Oct 21, 2021 at 8:04 PM CEST, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
>> I cleaned up some more backend code. There were some mails about dates
>> and such and although the date field in setupinteraction works ok a more
>> drastic overload is doen with directives. The reason is that the fact
>> that we can set the date (and traler) is only because it permits
>> generating pdf files that can be compared. No date as a bad idea anyway.
>>
>> \setupinteraction[title=My Title]
>> % \enabledirectives[backend.date=2034-06-07]
>> \enabledirectives[backend.date=no]
>> \enabledirectives[backend.trailerid=no]
>
> I checked the backend code and some of the related os functions. I put
> together a patch that hopefully fixes some stuff and doesn't break
> anything. The changes:
>
> 1) Dates parsed by ConTeXt (function converters.totime), such as those
> that are input to backend.date, now allow specifying seconds and time
> zone information. If there is no timezone the datetime is presumed to be
> in local time, otherwise the datetime is offset by the local / specified
> time zone difference (because ConTeXt outputs these dates as local times
> with local timezone). Additionally both "T" and " " are now allowed as
> date/time separator characters. Thus dates output by ConTeXt can be also
> fed in.
i made the parser a bit more tolerant
"1234-12-30"
"1234/12/30"
"1234-12-30 23:45"
"1234-12-30 23:45:16"
"1234-12-30 23:45:16"
"1234-12-30T23:45:16+01:00"
"1234-12-30 23:45:16-02:00"
"1234-12-30 23:45:16+05:00"
"1234-12-30 23:45:16 05:00"
"1234-12-30 23:45:16 05:00"
(I'll send you the file to check/test)
> 2) Fix the os.timezone function. Previously, it could be wrong around
> midnight, which I discovered only by chance. The trick is lifted from
> http://lua-users.org/wiki/TimeZone, which I hope is OK. The before and
> after (I am at +02:00):
>
> os.localtime() 2021-10-22 01:44:24
> os.now() 2021-10-21 23:44:24
> os.timezone(true) -22:00
>
>
> os.localtime() 2021-10-22 01:46:23
> os.now() 2021-10-21 23:46:23
> os.timezone(true) +02:00
shouldn't we also offer a -02:00 ? (relative)
> I also extended the interface of os.timezone to accommodate 1), but as
> this is probably a very public interface, I am not sure if these changes
> are OK. If more changes to the interface can be made, I propose to get
> rid of the delta parameter, since it seems like a remnant from the past.
maybe later, i need to check other files
> Some caching can also be introduced, but I again wasn't sure if this
> even would be the final form of the function, so didn't do anything in
> that sense, yet.
i'll adapt it to that
> 3) Don't use %X in time formats. It is specified to be platform
> dependent and we want %H:%M:%S everywhere. Also, it would be nice if
> lpdf-xmp.lmt would use the os.fulltime() function to format dates (like
> back-exp.lmt does), but there are multiple dates with different formats
> and purposes and it is probably too late to change now.
(probably not that harmfull on the platforms we support)
the reason for different times is that i never liked the timezone in
regular date/time (so only the mandate one had it) but in the end i
don't care that much about times/date i never look at (i admit that i
never consult any of this pdf meta data)
> 4) I changed the os.fulltime function, that returns date + time + local
> time zone to output the _local_ time instead of UTC time. This is AFAICT
> the right way to do times. The PDF spec says:
>
> If no UT information is specified, the relationship of the specified
> time to UT shall be considered to be GMT. Regardless of whether the
> time zone is specified, the rest of the date shall be specified in
> local time.
>
> EXAMPLE: For example, December 23, 1998, at 7:52 PM, U.S. Pacific
> Standard Time, is represented by the string D:199812231952-08'00
>
> A test program:
>
>
> \enabletrackers[backend.info]
>
> \enabledirectives[backend.date=1234-12-30] % 1234-12-30T00:00:00+02:00
> \enabledirectives[backend.date=1234-12-30 23:45] % 1234-12-30T23:45:00+02:00
> \enabledirectives[backend.date=1234-12-30 23:45:16] % 1234-12-30T23:45:16+02:00
> \enabledirectives[backend.date=1234-12-30T23:45:16+01:00] % 1234-12-31T00:45:16+02:00
> \enabledirectives[backend.date=1234-12-30 23:45:16-02:00] % 1234-12-31T03:45:16+02:00
> \enabledirectives[backend.date=1234-12-30 23:45:16+05:00] % 1234-12-31T20:45:16+02:00
>
> \starttext
> dummy text
>
> \startluacode
> print("os.timezone(true)", os.timezone(true)) -- +02:00
> print("os.fulltime()", os.fulltime()) -- 2021-10-22 17:38:38+02:00
> print("os.localtime()", os.localtime()) -- 2021-10-22 17:38:38
> print("os.now()", os.now()) -- 2021-10-22 15:38:38
> \stopluacode
> \stoptext
>
> I don't claim to know LPEG so please check my work. I also know nothing
> about XMP, so I didn't check that at all, sorry.
i saw a few things but you can check what i patched later (probably this
weekend)
Thanks
Hans
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