formatting index entries

formatting index entries

[Robert Zydenbos]

Dear list members,

In my book I am creating an index. I know that there are commands for formatting index entries, like:

\index{sl::īga}

if I want the word 'īga' to be printed in slanted type. I also know that we can create sub-entries, like

\index{īga+emphasized}

But now I want the word 'īga' to be slanted, but not the word 'emphasized'. I have tried things like \index{sl::īga+rm::emphasized}, but I can't figure this out.

Any suggestions?

Robert
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Re: formatting index entries

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 8/21/19 10:59 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:
> Dear list members,
>
> In my book I am creating an index. I know that there are commands
> for formatting index entries, like:
>
> \index{sl::īga}
> [...]
> \index{īga+emphasized}
> [...]
> Any suggestions?

Hi Robert,

this worked in MkIV/XL (I don’t know what might happen in MkII):

    \starttext
    \index[īga]{{\em īga}}
    \index[īga+emphasized]{{\em īga+emphasized}}
    \completeindex
    \stoptext

Just in case it helps,

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Re: formatting index entries

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 21.08.2019 um 10:59:
> Dear list members,
>
> In my book I am creating an index. I know that there are commands for formatting index entries, like:
>
> \index{sl::īga}
>
> if I want the word 'īga' to be printed in slanted type. I also know that we can create sub-entries, like
>
> \index{īga+emphasized}
>
> But now I want the word 'īga' to be slanted, but not the word 'emphasized'. I have tried things like \index{sl::īga+rm::emphasized}, but I can't figure this out.
>
> Any suggestions?

\defineprocessor [sl] [style=slanted]
\defineprocessor [bf] [style=bold]

\starttext

\dontleavehmode\index{sl->īga}

\dontleavehmode\index{īga+normal}

\dontleavehmode\index{bf->īga+bold}

\placeindex[balance=no]

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: formatting index entries

[Robert Zydenbos]

Sorry, that works fine in MkIV, but not in MkII, which I need to use.

Robert

> On 21. Aug 2019, at 17:33, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 21.08.2019 um 10:59:
>> Dear list members,
>> 
>> In my book I am creating an index. I know that there are commands for formatting index entries, like:
>> 
>> \index{sl::īga}
>> 
>> if I want the word 'īga' to be printed in slanted type. I also know that we can create sub-entries, like
>> 
>> \index{īga+emphasized}
>> 
>> But now I want the word 'īga' to be slanted, but not the word 'emphasized'. I have tried things like \index{sl::īga+rm::emphasized}, but I can't figure this out.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
> 
> \defineprocessor [sl] [style=slanted]
> \defineprocessor [bf] [style=bold]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \dontleavehmode\index{sl->īga}
> 
> \dontleavehmode\index{īga+normal}
> 
> \dontleavehmode\index{bf->īga+bold}
> 
> \placeindex[balance=no]
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> Wolfgang
> 

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Re: formatting index entries

[Robert Zydenbos]

Strange, in MkIV I get an error message which I do not understand, because by the look of it, your code (I called the file 'indexpablo.tex') seems in order – but in MkII (which I need) it works.

The MkIV error log:

This is LuaTeX, Version 1.07.0 (TeX Live 2018) 
 system commands enabled.
open source     > level 1, order 1, name '/usr/local/texlive/2018/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-yes.mkiv'
system          > 
system          > ConTeXt  ver: 2018.04.04 00:51 MKIV beta  fmt: 2018.5.13  int: english/english
system          > 
system          > 'cont-new.mkiv' loaded
open source     > level 2, order 2, name '/usr/local/texlive/2018/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-new.mkiv'
close source    > level 2, order 2, name '/usr/local/texlive/2018/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/mkiv/cont-new.mkiv'
system          > files > jobname 'indexpablo', input './indexpablo', result 'indexpablo'
fonts           > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages       > language 'en' is active
system          > synctex functionality is enabled, expect 5-10 pct runtime overhead!
open source     > level 2, order 3, name '/Users/rz/Documents/work/Kannada-manual-compile-klad/indexpablo.tex'
fonts           > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
fonts           > 'fallback modern-designsize rm 12pt' is loaded
structure       > sectioning > chapter @ level 2 : 0.1 -> \headtext {index}

tex error       > tex error on line 50 in file /Users/rz/Documents/work/Kannada-manual-compile-klad/indexpablo.tex: ! Missing } inserted

<inserted text> 
}
<to be read again> 
\endgroup 
l.50 \stopregisterentry
                     
\strc_registers_place_indeed ...\c!pagesegments }}
                                                  \relax 
\strc_registers_place ...c_registers_place_indeed 
                                                  \stopmixedcolumns \else \s...
\strc_registers_complete ...\currentregister ][#2]
                                                  \page [\v!yes ]\stopnameds...
...
l.5    \stoptext
              

> On 21. Aug 2019, at 17:10, Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote:
> 
> On 8/21/19 10:59 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:
>> Dear list members,
>> 
>> In my book I am creating an index. I know that there are commands
>> for formatting index entries, like:
>> 
>> \index{sl::īga}
>> [...]
>> \index{īga+emphasized}
>> [...]
>> Any suggestions?
> 
> Hi Robert,
> 
> this worked in MkIV/XL (I don’t know what might happen in MkII):
> 
>    \starttext
>    \index[īga]{{\em īga}}
>    \index[īga+emphasized]{{\em īga+emphasized}}
>    \completeindex
>    \stoptext
> 
> Just in case it helps,
> 
> Pablo


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formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

[Robert Zydenbos]

I seem to have a problem with Unicode in the indexing function for my book: a word like āyitu (beginning with an 'a' with a macron over it) is considered a word that starts with a 'y'; the word īga (beginning with an i with a macron) is placed as if it is 'ga'.

Is there any way to tell the indexing function how to deal with such special characters?

Robert

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Re: formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

[Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica]

Robert,

In IV one can do something such as this:

% Registers (Indices)

\defineregister[TIB]

\setupregister[TIB][indicator=yes,compress=yes]

and then in the body:

\TIB[don du gner ba]{don du gñer ba : patthanā : wish}don du gñer ba'i
phyir rdzogs par byed do

\TIB[non mons]{ñon moṅs : kilesa : defilements}ñon moṅs pa śin tu che
ba yin-no


Richard


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Mailer: 

I seem to have a problem with Unicode in the indexing function for my
book: a word like āyitu (beginning with an 'a' with a macron over it)
is considered a word that starts with a 'y'; the word īga (beginning
with an i with a macron) is placed as if it is 'ga'.

Is there any way to tell the indexing function how to deal with such
special characters?

Robert

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Re: formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

[Robert Zydenbos]

That helps!

But in any case, it looks like the problems are actually several (also the one of the precise order of the words in the index), and I think the 'fastest' solution for now is that I just compile the index (only 4 pages), make a separate component file and rearrange the contents by copy-and-paste. Not the most elegant of solutions, but it works. :-)

> On 22. Aug 2019, at 01:58, Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica <r.mahoney@indica-et-buddhica.org> wrote:
> 
> Robert,
> 
> In IV one can do something such as this:
> 
> % Registers (Indices)
> 
> \defineregister[TIB]
> 
> \setupregister[TIB][indicator=yes,compress=yes]
> 
> and then in the body:
> 
> \TIB[don du gner ba]{don du gñer ba : patthanā : wish}don du gñer ba'i
> phyir rdzogs par byed do
> 
> \TIB[non mons]{ñon moṅs : kilesa : defilements}ñon moṅs pa śin tu che
> ba yin-no
> 
> 
> Richard


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Re: formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 22.08.2019 um 01:42:
> I seem to have a problem with Unicode in the indexing function for my book: a word like āyitu (beginning with an 'a' with a macron over it) is considered a word that starts with a 'y'; the word īga (beginning with an i with a macron) is placed as if it is 'ga'.
>
> Is there any way to tell the indexing function how to deal with such special characters?
How should we know why you have problems with your index entries when 
you're unable to provide a working minimal example, all you have shown 
so far are snippets.

Wolfgang

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Re: formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 22.08.2019 um 17:52:
> You're right. I just compared my earlier attempts with the results of the sample solutions you and Pablo had sent me and assumed that also everybody else knew what I was talking about.
Your problem was easy to understand but without more information it's 
just guess work.
> On 22. Aug 2019, at 16:53, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Robert Zydenbos schrieb am 22.08.2019 um 01:42:
>>> I seem to have a problem with Unicode in the indexing function for my book: a word like āyitu (beginning with an 'a' with a macron over it) is considered a word that starts with a 'y'; the word īga (beginning with an i with a macron) is placed as if it is 'ga'.
>>>
>>> Is there any way to tell the indexing function how to deal with such special characters?
>> How should we know why you have problems with your index entries when you're unable to provide a working minimal example, all you have shown so far are snippets.
> Attached I am sending a longer example, compiled from a few chapters. There you can see that the word 'āddariṃda' is listed as if it starts with a 'd'. This happens with every word that begins with a vowel with a macron.
>
> As I mentioned in my last posting, I already have a primitive workaround solution – but this could become an issue for some later user for whom the index is more important.
A PDF with the wrong sorting order doesn't help when you can't show a 
working minimal example to reproduce the problem.  When you need more 
control about the sorting order of the index you should switch to MkIV 
which has more options.

Wolfgang

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Re: formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

[Robert Zydenbos]

On 22. Aug 2019, at 18:17, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> A PDF with the wrong sorting order doesn't help when you can't show a working minimal example to reproduce the problem.  When you need more control about the sorting order of the index you should switch to MkIV which has more options.
> 
> Wolfgang

When ConTeXt MkIV (rather: LuaTeX) supports Indic fonts, I'll gladly do that. :-)

Robert


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Re: formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

[luigi scarso]

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On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM Robert Zydenbos <context@zydenbos.net>
wrote:

> On 22. Aug 2019, at 18:17, Wolfgang Schuster <
> wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A PDF with the wrong sorting order doesn't help when you can't show a
> working minimal example to reproduce the problem.  When you need more
> control about the sorting order of the index you should switch to MkIV
> which has more options.
> >
> > Wolfgang
>
> When ConTeXt MkIV (rather: LuaTeX) supports Indic fonts, I'll gladly do
> that. :-)
>


luahbtex (in texlive 2020) has harfbuzz embedded .

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Re: formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

[Hans Hagen]

On 9/13/2019 12:20 PM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:
> On 22. Aug 2019, at 18:17, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> A PDF with the wrong sorting order doesn't help when you can't show a working minimal example to reproduce the problem.  When you need more control about the sorting order of the index you should switch to MkIV which has more options.
>>
>> Wolfgang
> 
> When ConTeXt MkIV (rather: LuaTeX) supports Indic fonts, I'll gladly do that. :-)
context does to some extend ... a few month ago some more indic scripts 
were added but of course one needs the fonts and right settings

Hans


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Re: formatting index entries: alphabetical order in Unicode

[Robert Zydenbos]

> On 13. Sep 2019, at 12:31, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 12:20 PM Robert Zydenbos <context@zydenbos.net> wrote:
> 
> When ConTeXt MkIV (rather: LuaTeX) supports Indic fonts, I'll gladly do that. :-)
> 
> 
> luahbtex (in texlive 2020) has harfbuzz embedded .

That sounds like *the* solution (for my next book, in 2020). I've had excellent experiences with harfbuzz-embedded software.

RZ
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