* [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009
@ 2010-02-26 12:37 Vedran Miletić
2010-02-26 12:53 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Vedran Miletić @ 2010-02-26 12:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
is minimals supposed to have the same output using MkII as TeX Live
2009? Or have I missunderstood what does it mean that 'MkII is
frozen'?
I ask because I get different results on same document. I'm using
Palatino font. It seems related to spacing between letters in "il" and
"ij" that is larger in current minimals. Any ideas why?
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* Re: [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009
2010-02-26 12:37 [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009 Vedran Miletić
@ 2010-02-26 12:53 ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-02-26 13:10 ` Vedran Miletić
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2010-02-26 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/2/26 Vedran Miletić je napisal:
> Hi,
>
> is minimals supposed to have the same output using MkII as TeX Live
> 2009? Or have I missunderstood what does it mean that 'MkII is
> frozen'?
It is declared frozen, but it may still happen that something changes
unintentionally (and bugs that are easy to fix might be fixed as
well).
> I ask because I get different results on same document. I'm using
> Palatino font. It seems related to spacing between letters in "il" and
> "ij" that is larger in current minimals. Any ideas why?
No. Can you please send a sample tex & both pdf documents? (If it's
bigger than 40 or 60 kb, you need to post it somewhere.)
There was a big difference between TL 2008 and now (when the whole
font has been replaced from URW to TeX Gyre), but I see no reason why
you should get a different result now.
Mojca
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* Re: [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009
2010-02-26 12:53 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2010-02-26 13:10 ` Vedran Miletić
2010-02-26 14:36 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Vedran Miletić @ 2010-02-26 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/2/26 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:
> 2010/2/26 Vedran Miletić je napisal:
>> Hi,
>>
>> is minimals supposed to have the same output using MkII as TeX Live
>> 2009? Or have I missunderstood what does it mean that 'MkII is
>> frozen'?
>
> It is declared frozen, but it may still happen that something changes
> unintentionally (and bugs that are easy to fix might be fixed as
> well).
>
>> I ask because I get different results on same document. I'm using
>> Palatino font. It seems related to spacing between letters in "il" and
>> "ij" that is larger in current minimals. Any ideas why?
>
> No. Can you please send a sample tex & both pdf documents? (If it's
> bigger than 40 or 60 kb, you need to post it somewhere.)
>
> There was a big difference between TL 2008 and now (when the whole
> font has been replaced from URW to TeX Gyre), but I see no reason why
> you should get a different result now.
>
> Mojca
All three are in: http://www.ri.linux.hr/soiletak.zip
Hope it helps.
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* Re: [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009
2010-02-26 13:10 ` Vedran Miletić
@ 2010-02-26 14:36 ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-02-28 11:42 ` Vedran Miletić
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2010-02-26 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I suspect (though I don't really know) that the difference comes from
different versions of TeX Gyre. There's a quick experiment you can do:
rsync -av \
/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ \
/path/to/minimals/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/
(unless you want to make a backup, but you can quickly revent to the
old state anyway by updating the minimals.)
The weird thing is that it may be that the minimals contain an older
version, but I can fix that soon (I need to double-check why the font
didn't get updated automatically since many other fonts do).
Mojca
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* Re: [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009
2010-02-26 14:36 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2010-02-28 11:42 ` Vedran Miletić
2010-03-02 7:31 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Vedran Miletić @ 2010-02-28 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/2/26 Mojca Miklavec <mojca.miklavec.lists@gmail.com>:
> I suspect (though I don't really know) that the difference comes from
> different versions of TeX Gyre. There's a quick experiment you can do:
>
> rsync -av \
> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ \
> /path/to/minimals/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/
>
> (unless you want to make a backup, but you can quickly revent to the
> old state anyway by updating the minimals.)
>
> The weird thing is that it may be that the minimals contain an older
> version, but I can fix that soon (I need to double-check why the font
> didn't get updated automatically since many other fonts do).
>
> Mojca
Yeah, that fixes it. Can you double-check?
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* Re: [MkII] Difference in output in minimals versus TeX Live 2009
2010-02-28 11:42 ` Vedran Miletić
@ 2010-03-02 7:31 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2010-03-02 7:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/2/28 Vedran Miletić wrote:
> 2010/2/26 Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> I suspect (though I don't really know) that the difference comes from
>> different versions of TeX Gyre. There's a quick experiment you can do:
>>
>> rsync -av \
>> /usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf-dist/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/ \
>> /path/to/minimals/tex/texmf/fonts/tfm/public/tex-gyre/
>>
>> (unless you want to make a backup, but you can quickly revent to the
>> old state anyway by updating the minimals.)
>>
>> The weird thing is that it may be that the minimals contain an older
>> version, but I can fix that soon (I need to double-check why the font
>> didn't get updated automatically since many other fonts do).
>>
>> Mojca
>
> Yeah, that fixes it. Can you double-check?
The reason was very weird: we wanted to be early adopters, so we were
syncing from GUST even before the latest version of fonts became
available to CTAN.
But once the fonts became available on CTAN, I forgot to switch from
"the latest zip" back to CTAN, so even when a new version came out
months later, we kept syncing from that "latest version zip".
The latest version should be online now. I hope.
Mojca
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