Re: checkbox in fields show the word yes

Re: checkbox in fields show the word yes

[Andres Conrado Montoya]

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Firefox doesn't show the "yes", nor Acrobat X, but SumatraPDF does. I
modified your definition as:

\definefield[test][check][cbox][][]

And now the "yes" doesn't appear. However, I don't know how this affects
the functionality of the form.

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Re: checkbox in fields show the word yes

[Hans Hagen]

On 12/11/2020 6:13 PM, Andres Conrado Montoya wrote:
> Firefox doesn't show the "yes", nor Acrobat X, but SumatraPDF does. I 
> modified your definition as:
> 
> \definefield[test][check][cbox][][]
> 
> And now the "yes" doesn't appear. However, I don't know how this affects 
> the functionality of the form.
these symbols (esp how deafults are handles) has alwaye been a bit of a 
mess in acrobat (read: different per version) and relates to appearance 
streams and such (when a form is made in acrobat these streams get 
added, it could even be some dingbat kicking in or being vectorized or 
... seen all kind of variants) ... officially a rendering should listen 
to some keys that relate to it but this is not always the case

(part of the problem is, i think, that esp for check fields a bugs or 
behaviour  has become a feature which makes it kin dof inconsisten twith 
the rest of the widgets .. it's even worse when one uses parent / child 
across pages ... it hasn;t helped that hardly any viewer supported it 
which in turn means no feedback)

(in lmtx iu could probably generate appearance streams but i'll only do 
that when i have an application for these widgets so that i can test it)

Hans

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[NTG-context] Re: checkbox in fields show the word yes

[juh via ntg-context]

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Hi,

three years later I would like to hint to this thread again and ask if
there is hope that checkboxes will work better in Acrobat any time soon. 

Am Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 06:28:36PM +0100 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 12/11/2020 6:13 PM, Andres Conrado Montoya wrote:
> > Firefox doesn't show the "yes", nor Acrobat X, but SumatraPDF does. I
> > modified your definition as:
> > 
> > \definefield[test][check][cbox][][]
> > 
> > And now the "yes" doesn't appear. However, I don't know how this affects
> > the functionality of the form.
> these symbols (esp how deafults are handles) has alwaye been a bit of a mess
> in acrobat (read: different per version) and relates to appearance streams
> and such (when a form is made in acrobat these streams get added, it could
> even be some dingbat kicking in or being vectorized or ... seen all kind of
> variants) ... officially a rendering should listen to some keys that relate
> to it but this is not always the case
> 
> (part of the problem is, i think, that esp for check fields a bugs or
> behaviour  has become a feature which makes it kin dof inconsisten twith the
> rest of the widgets .. it's even worse when one uses parent / child across
> pages ... it hasn;t helped that hardly any viewer supported it which in turn
> means no feedback)
> 
> (in lmtx iu could probably generate appearance streams but i'll only do that
> when i have an application for these widgets so that i can test it)
> 
> Hans
> 
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checkbox in fields show the word yes

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Hi all,

with this example I get a checkbox that does not work; in my real world
document it works, I can't say why. But this minimal example shows the
problem I have in my real document.


\usemodule[fields]
\setupinteraction [state=start]

\setupfield[cbox][width=1em,height=1em,option=printable,frame=on,offset=0.5mm,frameoffset=1mm,type=radio,color=black]
\definefield[test][check][cbox][yes][no]

\starttext
\field[test] \space Do you see the word »yes«?
\stoptext

Unfortunately in Firefox and some other PDF Viewer there is the word
"yes" written in the checkbox.

This makes the form useless as people think the given option is set to
yes by default.

Can I avoid this somehow?

TIA juh
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Re: checkbox in fields show the word yes

[Jan U. Hasecke]

Dear all,

as nobody answered I would like too repeat my question.

If you open the MWE in Firefox, you see the word "yes" written in the
checkbox. Is there a way to avoid this?


Thanks a lot for your help.
juh

Am 17.11.20 um 13:50 schrieb Jan U. Hasecke:
> Hi all,
> 
> with this example I get a checkbox that does not work; in my real world
> document it works, I can't say why. But this minimal example shows the
> problem I have in my real document.
> 
> 
> \usemodule[fields]
> \setupinteraction [state=start]
> 
> \setupfield[cbox][width=1em,height=1em,option=printable,frame=on,offset=0.5mm,frameoffset=1mm,type=radio,color=black]
> \definefield[test][check][cbox][yes][no]
> 
> \starttext
> \field[test] \space Do you see the word »yes«?
> \stoptext
> 
> Unfortunately in Firefox and some other PDF Viewer there is the word
> "yes" written in the checkbox.
> 
> This makes the form useless as people think the given option is set to
> yes by default.
> 
> Can I avoid this somehow?
> 

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Re: checkbox in fields show the word yes

[Floris van Manen]

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On 11/12/2020 08:46, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
> as nobody answered I would like too repeat my question.

This is what I see


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Re: checkbox in fields show the word yes

[Bruce Horrocks]

> On 11 Dec 2020, at 08:21, Floris van Manen <vm@klankschap.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/12/2020 08:46, Jan U. Hasecke wrote:
>> as nobody answered I would like too repeat my question.
> 
> This is what I see


On a Mac running BigSur...
1) using the TeXShop built-in PDF viewer I see the word "yes" inside the box
2) in the 'Preview' app I see "yes" in the box
3) using Adobe Acrobat Reader DC I get:
  a) Initially a blank / grey box
  b) Hovering the mouse over the grey bit displays "yes" and the cursor changes from I-beam to hand
  c) Single clicking displays the word "yes"
  d) Move focus to another app and the word "yes" is replaced with a tick mark in the box
  e) Move focus back to Acrobat, hover over the box and the tick mark changes to "yes"
  f) Click the tick and the box changes to "yes"
  g) Move focus to another app and the box changes to blank i.e. unticked

I've no idea whatsoever what to do about it or suggest which is why I didn't reply before.

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Hampshire, UK

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