OpenOffice export

OpenOffice export

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi gang,

I just learned that OOo 2.04 has a LaTeX export (downloading now). Any of  
you bright programmers up to writing a ConTeXt export (or porting the  
LaTeX filters to ConTeXt)?

I'm quite serious: if anyone is interested I'll write (or help write) a  
grant proposal for it (I've already had some TeX-related proposals funded  
so...).

Please write me if you are interested in a grant, or else we can just  
discuss it on dev-context@ntg.nl and get it done another way!

Best
Idris

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Re: OpenOffice export

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Idris,

not to sound negative, but I remember looking at it, and as far as I  
could see, they have just integrated writer2latex ( http://www.hj- 
gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/ ) into OOo. It's a wonderful thing to have,  
but it has been around for a while; the only thing that's new is the  
integration. As to ConTeXt export: writer2latex can be customized in  
a number of ways. For the basic stuff, you can get output that looks  
a lot like ConTeXt, just don't expect miracles (don't expect miracles  
for LaTeX, either, btw).

Best

Thomas

On Dec 2, 2006, at 8:13 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> I just learned that OOo 2.04 has a LaTeX export (downloading now).  
> Any of
> you bright programmers up to writing a ConTeXt export (or porting the
> LaTeX filters to ConTeXt)?
>
> I'm quite serious: if anyone is interested I'll write (or help  
> write) a
> grant proposal for it (I've already had some TeX-related proposals  
> funded
> so...).
>
> Please write me if you are interested in a grant, or else we can just
> discuss it on dev-context@ntg.nl and get it done another way!
>
> Best
> Idris

Re: OpenOffice export

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi Thomas,

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 13:55:24 -0700, Thomas A. Schmitz  
<thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> wrote:

> not to sound negative, but I remember looking at it, and as far as I
> could see, they have just integrated writer2latex ( http://www.hj-
> gym.dk/~hj/writer2latex/ ) into OOo. It's a wonderful thing to have,
> but it has been around for a while; the only thing that's new is the
> integration. As to ConTeXt export: writer2latex can be customized in
> a number of ways. For the basic stuff, you can get output that looks
> a lot like ConTeXt, just don't expect miracles (don't expect miracles
> for LaTeX, either, btw).

I looked at the output; a bit ugly (which tells me the xml is probably as  
weird as Hans suggests).

Yes, we can't expect miracles. The real problem is converting to a  
structured format, and that limits things. But for academic articles and  
the like a reasonable subset should be possible to cook up...

I think the potential of OOo as pre-TeX wysiwyg editor is worth exploring.  
My own needs are for an academic journal so it's a bit urgent for me,  
anyway... maybe a year from now...

Best
Idris
>
> On Dec 2, 2006, at 8:13 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
>
>> Hi gang,
>>
>> I just learned that OOo 2.04 has a LaTeX export (downloading now).
>> Any of
>> you bright programmers up to writing a ConTeXt export (or porting the
>> LaTeX filters to ConTeXt)?

-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: OpenOffice export

[luigi scarso]

> I think the potential of OOo as pre-TeX wysiwyg editor is worth exploring.
> My own needs are for an academic journal so it's a bit urgent for me,
> anyway... maybe a year from now...
>
Also
o3spaces.com
seem to be a interestring project .

luigi

Re: OpenOffice export

[Hans Hagen]

Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> I just learned that OOo 2.04 has a LaTeX export (downloading now). Any of  
> you bright programmers up to writing a ConTeXt export (or porting the  
> LaTeX filters to ConTeXt)?
>
> I'm quite serious: if anyone is interested I'll write (or help write) a  
> grant proposal for it (I've already had some TeX-related proposals funded  
> so...).
>
> Please write me if you are interested in a grant, or else we can just  
> discuss it on dev-context@ntg.nl and get it done another way!
>   
long ago for a project i played a bit with open office output (xml); the 
best way do deal with it is to convert the xml into a proper document 
structure instead of an office structure

there are  a few weird things in  oo's xml but when one uses proper 
styles and limits the user's options to the sensible ones oo can even be 
a nice editor for docs that are typeset by tex while previewing in oo 
(whil eediting it is not needed to see the final output)

so one can think of: proper xml document definition, make oo stylesheet 
for this, use oo for editing, convert oo xml to xml doc def, use tex for 
typesetting

since i have no project that needs it i cannot spend time on it now

Hans

Re: OpenOffice export

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 12:39:30 -0700, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
>> Hi gang,
>>
>> I just learned that OOo 2.04 has a LaTeX export (downloading now). Any  
>> of
>> you bright programmers up to writing a ConTeXt export (or porting the
>> LaTeX filters to ConTeXt)?
>>
>> I'm quite serious: if anyone is interested I'll write (or help write) a
>> grant proposal for it (I've already had some TeX-related proposals  
>> funded
>> so...).
>>
>> Please write me if you are interested in a grant, or else we can just
>> discuss it on dev-context@ntg.nl and get it done another way!
>>
> long ago for a project i played a bit with open office output (xml); the
> best way do deal with it is to convert the xml into a proper document
> structure instead of an office structure
>
> there are  a few weird things in  oo's xml but when one uses proper
> styles and limits the user's options to the sensible ones oo can even be
> a nice editor for docs that are typeset by tex while previewing in oo
> (whil eediting it is not needed to see the final output)

I think it's a good idea to pursue...

>
> so one can think of: proper xml document definition, make oo stylesheet
> for this, use oo for editing, convert oo xml to xml doc def, use tex for
> typesetting
>
> since i have no project that needs it i cannot spend time on it now

But I certainly need it ;-) so the idea of a grant etc. so you (or  
someone) can afford to work on it sounds good. Of course we have other  
stuff to do right now but for the future I think this is more than  
worthwhile...

Best
Idris

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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: OpenOffice export

[fdu.xiaojf]

Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> I just learned that OOo 2.04 has a LaTeX export (downloading now). Any of  
> you bright programmers up to writing a ConTeXt export (or porting the  
> LaTeX filters to ConTeXt)?
>
> I'm quite serious: if anyone is interested I'll write (or help write) a  
> grant proposal for it (I've already had some TeX-related proposals funded  
> so...).
>
> Please write me if you are interested in a grant, or else we can just  
> discuss it on dev-context@ntg.nl and get it done another way!
>
> Best
> Idris
>
>   
I think ConTeXt needs a stronger version control to enable this feature.

Re: OpenOffice export

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:09:51 -0700, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com  
<fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I just learned that OOo 2.04 has a LaTeX export (downloading now). Any  
>> of
>> you bright programmers up to writing a ConTeXt export (or porting the
>> LaTeX filters to ConTeXt)?

<snip>

> I think ConTeXt needs a stronger version control to enable this feature.

Can you explain what you mean by this? (Sorry if I'm clueless-)

Idris

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Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

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Re: OpenOffice export

[fdu.xiaojf]

Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 20:09:51 -0700, fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com  
> <fdu.xiaojf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>>> I just learned that OOo 2.04 has a LaTeX export (downloading now). Any  
>>> of
>>> you bright programmers up to writing a ConTeXt export (or porting the
>>> LaTeX filters to ConTeXt)?
>>>       
>
> <snip>
>
>   
>> I think ConTeXt needs a stronger version control to enable this feature.
>>     
>
> Can you explain what you mean by this? (Sorry if I'm clueless-)
>
> Idris
>
>   
Sorry for my bad English.

I mean that we need stable versions of ConTeXt. When one version of 
ConTeXt is
frozen, it only allows bugs to be fixed, and no new features are allowed to
be added to this version. New features should be added to next major 
release.