* markup format ---> ConTeXt @ 2008-05-30 8:39 Gour 2008-05-30 11:22 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Gour @ 2008-05-30 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 904 bytes --] Hi! At the moment I use Emacs Muse for writing my study notes which I then have to submit as *.doc file (muse --> html -> OO --> doc). I like it 'cause it enables me to combine all the notes and convert into ConTeXt later. However, the only disadvantage of it is that Muse markup is tied to Emacs editor and not so popular for those using other editors. Therefore I am considering some other 'easy' markup with the ConTeXt back-end. Some of the more popular markup-formats are AsciiDoc (http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/index.html) and reStructuredText (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html), but according to what I see both are missing ConTeXt back-end (latex only) :-( Any suggestion for 'popular' markup with ConTexT back-end? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ---------------------------------------------------------------- [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 196 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-05-30 8:39 markup format ---> ConTeXt Gour @ 2008-05-30 11:22 ` Aditya Mahajan 2008-05-30 15:18 ` Gour 2008-06-03 6:48 ` Maurice Diamantini 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2008-05-30 11:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Fri, 30 May 2008, Gour wrote: > Hi! > > At the moment I use Emacs Muse for writing my study notes which I then > have to submit as *.doc file (muse --> html -> OO --> doc). > > I like it 'cause it enables me to combine all the notes and convert into > ConTeXt later. > > However, the only disadvantage of it is that Muse markup is tied to > Emacs editor and not so popular for those using other editors. Therefore > I am considering some other 'easy' markup with the ConTeXt back-end. > > Some of the more popular markup-formats are AsciiDoc > (http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/index.html) and reStructuredText > (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html), but according to what I see > both are missing ConTeXt back-end (latex only) :-( > > Any suggestion for 'popular' markup with ConTexT back-end? Have a look at pandoc which converts markdown to ConTeXt and also to many other formats including html. There was also some discussion for conversion to OO, but I do not know the current status of that. http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ Aditya ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-05-30 11:22 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2008-05-30 15:18 ` Gour 2008-06-03 6:48 ` Maurice Diamantini 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Gour @ 2008-05-30 15:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 859 bytes --] >>>>> "Aditya" == Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> writes: Hello Mahajan ;) Aditya> Have a look at pandoc which converts markdown to ConTeXt and Aditya> also to many other formats including html. There was also some Aditya> discussion for conversion to OO, but I do not know the current Aditya> status of that. Heh, shortly after posting to the list I found out about pandoc. One thing which worries me is the info from user-guide: "...For example, it doesn’t handle tables, option lists, or footnotes." Do you have any experience with pandoc and reST as well as quality of ConTeXt output? It looks that markdown is first class citizen in pandoc, but no idea how it compares with ReST. Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ---------------------------------------------------------------- [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 196 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-05-30 11:22 ` Aditya Mahajan 2008-05-30 15:18 ` Gour @ 2008-06-03 6:48 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-03 7:43 ` Wolfgang Schuster ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-03 6:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Maurice Diamantini Le 30 mai 08 à 13:22, Aditya Mahajan a écrit : > On Fri, 30 May 2008, Gour wrote: > >> Some of the more popular markup-formats are AsciiDoc >> (http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/index.html) and reStructuredText >> (http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html), but according to what I >> see >> both are missing ConTeXt back-end (latex only) :-( >> >> Any suggestion for 'popular' markup with ConTexT back-end? > > Have a look at pandoc which converts markdown to ConTeXt and also to > many > other formats including html. There was also some discussion for > conversion to OO, but I do not know the current status of that. > > http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ Just some remarks/questions: - docbook seems to be the standard for describing documentation data, - dblatex seams to be a currently good supported tools for **easely** provide pdf output from docbook input, and cutomize the output with .xsl parameters or LaTeX .sty files - dbcontext seams not to be maintained very much - ConTeXt seams to be able to directly parse xml without external tools So, what about make ConTeXt directly reading dokbook file and output pdf file? I see the http://www.leverkruid.eu/context/index.html page from Simon Pepping. But it seems that this project is down. If ConTeXt provide an easy way for translate docbook to pdf file (usable by a non (ie. not yet) ConTeXt user as dblatex is), I think poeple could switch to ConTeXt only for that feature (not everybody have dependency with LaTeX!) Then the problem would resume to find a good "yourPreferedWikiFormat" to docbook... (I'v not seen any "t-bocbook" file on http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules) -- Maurice ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-06-03 6:48 ` Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-03 7:43 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-06-03 13:00 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-04 7:49 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-03 14:09 ` markup format ---> ConTeXt Gour 2008-06-03 18:22 ` nico 2 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-06-03 7:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Maurice Diamantini <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> wrote: > Just some remarks/questions: > - docbook seems to be the standard for describing documentation data, > - dblatex seams to be a currently good supported tools for **easely** > provide pdf output from docbook input, and cutomize the output with .xsl > parameters or LaTeX .sty files > - dbcontext seams not to be maintained very much I don't think the code in the module is nowadays a good example for writing a module because many low level commands are redefined and it should work now out of the box with the current code or better witth MkIV. > - ConTeXt seams to be able to directly parse xml without external tools > > So, what about make ConTeXt directly reading dokbook file and output > pdf file? I see the http://www.leverkruid.eu/context/index.html page from > Simon Pepping. But it seems that this project is down. Not many people asked for Docbook support in ConTeXt and I found only three interseting threads in my mail folder. http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2007/026545.html http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2007/025428.html http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2007/025358.html > If ConTeXt provide an easy way for translate docbook to pdf file > (usable by a non (ie. not yet) ConTeXt user as dblatex is), I think poeple > could switch to ConTeXt only for that feature (not everybody have > dependency with LaTeX!) > Then the problem would resume to find a good "yourPreferedWikiFormat" to > docbook... > (I'v not seen any "t-bocbook" file on http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules) The module you mention above is the only (complete?) docbook style but ConTeXt provides cals table support by default and mapping for the basic elements to ConTeXt shouldn't be a problem, give us the information what do you need and we write a module. Greetings Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-06-03 7:43 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-06-03 13:00 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-03 13:11 ` Hans Hagen 2008-06-03 13:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-06-04 7:49 ` Maurice Diamantini 1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-03 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Maurice Diamantini Le 3 juin 08 à 09:43, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit : > On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Maurice Diamantini > <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> wrote: > >> Just some remarks/questions: >> - docbook seems to be the standard for describing documentation data, >> - dblatex seams to be a currently good supported tools for **easely** >> provide pdf output from docbook input, and cutomize the output >> with .xsl >> parameters or LaTeX .sty files >> - dbcontext seams not to be maintained very much > > I don't think the code in the module is nowadays a good example for > writing > a module because many low level commands are redefined and it should > work now out of the box with the current code or better witth MkIV. > >> - ConTeXt seams to be able to directly parse xml without external >> tools >> >> So, what about make ConTeXt directly reading dokbook file and output >> pdf file? I see the http://www.leverkruid.eu/context/index.html >> page from >> Simon Pepping. But it seems that this project is down. > > The module you mention above is the only (complete?) docbook style > but ConTeXt provides cals table support by default and mapping for the > basic elements to ConTeXt shouldn't be a problem, > give us the information what do you need and we write a module. Thank you very much, you confirm that the "DocbookInContext" from Simon Pepping is still the way to go. I've no specific request, I just forward some interest by the web community to converting from docbook to pdf more or less automaticaly. I fact, my original interest come from the work of the jelix team (a MVC php Framwork) whose documentation was only online (dokuwiki). Following some user feedback, Jelix team have then generate docbook from that wiki filesss+ and make pdf file thanks to the (not maintained) db2latex tool. I look after a more uptodate tool (for further customisation) and found dblatex as mention on the (french) forum: http://jelix.org/forums/read.php?10,2680,page=4#msg-2872 The result was that the simple command: dblatex jelix-manual.xml produce a "correct" (i.e. readable) jelix-manual.pdf file without any customisation (with default table of content, correct verbatim, ...) which was not the case for db2latex. But then, any customisation will be a latex style, which is more hacking than ConTeXt (I think so, but I'm sure you agree ;-) Nevertheless, the first criterion was that it just works in simple case. If some magic command (or a simple tutorial) like : texexec --docbook jelix-manual.xml do some equivalent work than the above dblatex, no doubt that the ConTeXt community will increase by more than 100%! Cordialement, -- Maurice ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-06-03 13:00 ` Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-03 13:11 ` Hans Hagen 2008-06-03 13:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2008-06-03 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Maurice Diamantini Maurice Diamantini wrote: > Thank you very much, you confirm that the "DocbookInContext" from > Simon Pepping is still the way to go. beware, afaik that one adapts core macros which is to be avoided > I've no specific request, I just forward some interest by the web > community > to converting from docbook to pdf more or less automaticaly. > I fact, my original interest come from the work of the jelix team (a > MVC php Framwork) > whose documentation was only online (dokuwiki). > Following some user feedback, Jelix team have then generate docbook > from that wiki > filesss+ and make pdf file thanks to the (not maintained) db2latex tool. > I look after a more uptodate tool (for further customisation) and > found dblatex > as mention on the (french) forum: > > http://jelix.org/forums/read.php?10,2680,page=4#msg-2872 > > The result was that the simple command: > > dblatex jelix-manual.xml > > produce a "correct" (i.e. readable) jelix-manual.pdf file without any > customisation (with default table of content, correct verbatim, ...) > which was not the case for db2latex. > But then, any customisation will be a latex style, which is more hacking > than ConTeXt (I think so, but I'm sure you agree ;-) > > Nevertheless, the first criterion was that it just works in simple case. > If some magic command (or a simple tutorial) like : > > texexec --docbook jelix-manual.xml > > do some equivalent work than the above dblatex, no doubt that the > ConTeXt > community will increase by more than 100%! i can probably cook up a basic docbook converter in a couple of hours but since i never run into docbook ... Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-06-03 13:00 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-03 13:11 ` Hans Hagen @ 2008-06-03 13:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-06-03 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Maurice Diamantini <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> wrote: > > Le 3 juin 08 à 09:43, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit : > >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Maurice Diamantini >> <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> wrote: >> >>> Just some remarks/questions: >>> - docbook seems to be the standard for describing documentation data, >>> - dblatex seams to be a currently good supported tools for **easely** >>> provide pdf output from docbook input, and cutomize the output >>> with .xsl >>> parameters or LaTeX .sty files >>> - dbcontext seams not to be maintained very much >> >> I don't think the code in the module is nowadays a good example for >> writing >> a module because many low level commands are redefined and it should >> work now out of the box with the current code or better witth MkIV. >> >>> - ConTeXt seams to be able to directly parse xml without external >>> tools >>> >>> So, what about make ConTeXt directly reading dokbook file and output >>> pdf file? I see the http://www.leverkruid.eu/context/index.html >>> page from >>> Simon Pepping. But it seems that this project is down. >> >> The module you mention above is the only (complete?) docbook style >> but ConTeXt provides cals table support by default and mapping for the >> basic elements to ConTeXt shouldn't be a problem, >> give us the information what do you need and we write a module. > > Thank you very much, you confirm that the "DocbookInContext" from > Simon Pepping is still the way to go. No, I meant we should better start from scratch, as Hans told the code is bad style and you should avoid to redefine core or low level macros. > I've no specific request, I just forward some interest by the web > community > to converting from docbook to pdf more or less automaticaly. > I fact, my original interest come from the work of the jelix team (a > MVC php Framwork) > whose documentation was only online (dokuwiki). > Following some user feedback, Jelix team have then generate docbook > from that wiki > filesss+ and make pdf file thanks to the (not maintained) db2latex tool. > I look after a more uptodate tool (for further customisation) and > found dblatex as mention on the (french) forum: > > http://jelix.org/forums/read.php?10,2680,page=4#msg-2872 Looks like spain to me ;-) > The result was that the simple command: > > dblatex jelix-manual.xml > > produce a "correct" (i.e. readable) jelix-manual.pdf file without any > customisation (with default table of content, correct verbatim, ...) > which was not the case for db2latex. > But then, any customisation will be a latex style, which is more hacking > than ConTeXt (I think so, but I'm sure you agree ;-) One of the easiest things with ConTeXt, you could change the header style with \setupheader[...][..,..=..,..], you need only a extra file with all your settings. > Nevertheless, the first criterion was that it just works in simple case. > If some magic command (or a simple tutorial) like : > > texexec --docbook jelix-manual.xml better texexec --ctx=docbook jelix-manual.xml > do some equivalent work than the above dblatex, no doubt that the > ConTeXt community will increase by more than 100%! > > Cordialement, > -- Maurice Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-06-03 7:43 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-06-03 13:00 ` Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-04 7:49 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-04 13:34 ` Gour 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-04 7:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Maurice Diamantini First of all, thank you for your propositions, About markup format: -------------------- (---- a markdown header ;-) Markdown seems an interesting one because: - it's alive (as many other format) - it's available in severall scripting languages (ruby, php, python...) - it seems extensible - it is (more or less) translatable to docbook (and finaly to xxTeX) so allows good quality pdf results About docbook: -------------- But one current need is about docbook, because file already exists as a "dokuwiki hacked" generated file (by a php expert from jelix team) ! So other wiki format is not an option? docbook is request About the pandoc tools: ----------------------- Le 3 juin 08 à 16:09, Gour a écrit : > Take a look at http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ - it uses 'extended' > markdown syntax and can export to ConTeXt. But Gour said alsewhere: > ...it doesn’t handle tables,... Interesting, but a first try didn't compile with macport (GHC didn't compile). But not important: was just for trying... About dblatex tools ------------------- It just works for now but need LaTeX custom style for advanced customisation which is much lower level than ConTeXt one, so... About ConTeXt tools (THE important information ;-)) =================== Le 3 juin 08 à 15:11, Hans Hagen a écrit : >> If some magic command (or a simple tutorial) like : >> texexec --docbook jelix-manual.xml >> do some equivalent work than the above dblatex, no doubt that the >> ConTeXt community will increase by more than 100%! > > i can probably cook up a basic docbook converter in a couple of hours > but since i never run into docbook ... So instead of the "not in ConTeXt objective" expected response, this is a great news. For all (docbook + ConTeXt) tool maintainers like "dbcontext" or "DocbookInContext", it is a great opportunity to help Hans defining a standard module which would then be maintain in the standard ConTeXt distribution. Other replies about dbcontext tools : ------------------------------------- Le 3 juin 08 à 09:43, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit : >> - dbcontext seams not to be maintained very much > > I don't think the code in the module is nowadays a good example for > writing > a module because many low level commands are redefined and it should > work now out of the box with the current code or better witth MkIV. I thought so, but ... Le 3 juin 08 à 20:22, nico a écrit : >> - dbcontext seams not to be maintained very much > > dbcontext is still alive, but asleep because of few users, and mostly > works in the current state. You can give it a try. You can provide > your > own context layout to customize section titles and layout. It is much > cleaner and easier than the latex .sty hack. As an example of the > powerful > layout capabilities that ConTeXt provides, you can build a PDF with a > layout similar to what docbook FO does. So dbcontext resume in a ConTeXt module, it should be part od the context distrib (as a contrib): see above about Hans response. -- Maurice ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-06-04 7:49 ` Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-04 13:34 ` Gour 2008-06-04 14:53 ` markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) Maurice Diamantini 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Gour @ 2008-06-04 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 729 bytes --] >>>>> "Maurice" == Maurice Diamantini <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> writes: Maurice> About docbook: -------------- Maurice> But one current need is about docbook, because file already Maurice> exists as a "dokuwiki hacked" generated file (by a php expert Maurice> from jelix team) ! So other wiki format is not an option? Maurice> docbook is request Export Docbook to html and then import (e.g. with pandoc) into e.g. markdown ;) Maurice> But Gour said alsewhere: >> ...it doesn’t handle tables,... pandoc's extended markdown handles tables. Which ghc? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ---------------------------------------------------------------- [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 196 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) 2008-06-04 13:34 ` Gour @ 2008-06-04 14:53 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-04 19:34 ` Gour 2008-06-04 20:46 ` Gour 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-04 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Maurice Diamantini Le 4 juin 08 à 15:34, Gour a écrit : > ... about the pandoc "wiki-docbook-*TeX" Haskell translator ... > Which ghc? port info ghc => ghc 6.8.2, Revision 3, lang/ghc (Variants: universal, darwin_6, darwin_7, darwin_8_powerpc, darwin_8_i386, darwin_9_powerpc, darwin_9_i386, no_opengl) http://haskell.org/ The Glasgow Haskell Compiler is a robust, fully-featured, optimising compiler and interactive environment for Haskell 98, GHC compiles Haskell to either native code or C. etc... -- Maurice ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) 2008-06-04 14:53 ` markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-04 19:34 ` Gour 2008-06-05 6:55 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-04 20:46 ` Gour 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Gour @ 2008-06-04 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1024 bytes --] >>>>> "Maurice" == Maurice Diamantini <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> writes: Maurice> Le 4 juin 08 à 15:34, Gour a écrit : Hello! Maurice> port info ghc => ghc 6.8.2, Revision 3, lang/ghc (Variants: Maurice> universal, darwin_6, darwin_7, darwin_8_powerpc, darwin_8_i386, Maurice> darwin_9_powerpc, darwin_9_i386, no_opengl) http://haskell.org/ Here is the reply from pandoc main developer: "This problem was introduced when MacPorts updated to the most recent version of the haddock documentation tool. I submitted a patch to MacPorts a long time ago, but nobody has committed it to the repository. (The committer who looked at the patch has had trouble building GHC 6.8.2 on his Mac, so he can't test the pandoc patch.) There's a description of a workaround here: http://groups.google.com/group/pandoc-discuss/browse_thread/thread/c9ecef59465c12c6" Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ---------------------------------------------------------------- [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 196 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) 2008-06-04 19:34 ` Gour @ 2008-06-05 6:55 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-05 7:15 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-05 6:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Gour; +Cc: Maurice Diamantini Le 4 juin 08 à 21:34, Gour a écrit : > Here is the reply from pandoc main developer: > > ... > There's a description of a workaround here: > http://groups.google.com/group/pandoc-discuss/browse_thread/thread/c9ecef59465c12c6 > " > ... Then in the next message: > ... after a 'port sync', pandoc should again be installable > using macports." ... Thank you very much, I'll try it; (other message not related to ConTeXt could now be send off-list please) -- Maurice ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) 2008-06-05 6:55 ` Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-05 7:15 ` luigi scarso 2008-06-06 5:57 ` Maurice Diamantini 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2008-06-05 7:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Diamantini Maurice, mailing list for ConTeXt users > (other message not related to ConTeXt could now be send off-list please) true. My problems is "What is out of topic in this mailing list ? " :) -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) 2008-06-05 7:15 ` luigi scarso @ 2008-06-06 5:57 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-06 7:06 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-06 5:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, luigi scarso; +Cc: Diamantini Maurice Le 5 juin 08 à 09:15, luigi scarso a écrit : >> (other message not related to ConTeXt could now be send off-list >> please) > true. > My problems is: "What is out of topic in this mailing list ? " :) Because the problem was about installing GHC (an Haskell compiler) on osX with macports tool. Haskel language is requested as a dependancy for Pandoc. Pandoc "could" be use has an intermediate tool for converting some docbook to ConTeXt... ... so Very many link, before ConTeXt topic... ... and very numerous dependancy for an intermediate tools such pandoc ... which seems more difficult to install than ConTeXt itself ... ConTeXt, which could probably do the xml work by itself :-) So problem about install pandoc on macos could be followup to http://groups.google.com/group/pandoc-discuss/browse_thread/thread/d16f2ba3198525be (seems not to solved even the last "sudo port sync") Cordialement -- Maurice ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) 2008-06-06 5:57 ` Maurice Diamantini @ 2008-06-06 7:06 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2008-06-06 7:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Diamantini Maurice, mailing list for ConTeXt users On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:57 AM, Maurice Diamantini <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> wrote: > > Le 5 juin 08 à 09:15, luigi scarso a écrit : > >>> (other message not related to ConTeXt could now be send off-list please) >> >> true. >> My problems is: "What is out of topic in this mailing list ? " :) > > Because the problem was about installing GHC (an Haskell compiler) on osX > with macports tool. > Haskel language is requested as a dependancy for Pandoc. no no, there was a misunderstand. What I mean is : it' very hard to define that a subject if off topic in this mailing list. For example, I don't consider this an out-of-topic subject. -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) 2008-06-04 14:53 ` markup format ---> ConTeXt (Out of Topic) Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-04 19:34 ` Gour @ 2008-06-04 20:46 ` Gour 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Gour @ 2008-06-04 20:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 774 bytes --] >>>>> "Maurice" == Maurice Diamantini <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> writes: Hi! Excuse me for the noise... Maurice> port info ghc => ghc 6.8.2, Revision 3, lang/ghc (Variants: Maurice> universal, darwin_6, darwin_7, darwin_8_powerpc, darwin_8_i386, Maurice> darwin_9_powerpc, darwin_9_i386, no_opengl) http://haskell.org/ but just received another message from pandoc dev: "Thanks! As luck would have it, the patch was committed to macports just after your message. So the workaround should no longer be necessary -- after a 'port sync', pandoc should again be installable using macports." Pls. try it! Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ---------------------------------------------------------------- [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 196 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-06-03 6:48 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-03 7:43 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2008-06-03 14:09 ` Gour 2008-06-03 18:22 ` nico 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Gour @ 2008-06-03 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1522 bytes --] >>>>> "Maurice" == Maurice Diamantini <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> writes: Maurice> Just some remarks/questions: - docbook seems to be the standard Maurice> for describing documentation data, - dblatex seams to be a Maurice> currently good supported tools for **easely** provide pdf Maurice> output from docbook input, and cutomize the output with .xsl Maurice> parameters or LaTeX .sty files - dbcontext seams not to be Maurice> maintained very much - ConTeXt seams to be able to directly Maurice> parse xml without external tools Heh, for me (and I'm not alone), docbook is an overkill for many documentation tasks - way too big :-/ Maurice> If ConTeXt provide an easy way for translate docbook to pdf Maurice> file (usable by a non (ie. not yet) ConTeXt user as dblatex Maurice> is), I think poeple could switch to ConTeXt only for that Maurice> feature (not everybody have dependency with LaTeX!) Then the Maurice> problem would resume to find a good "yourPreferedWikiFormat" to Maurice> docbook... (I'v not seen any "t-bocbook" file on Maurice> http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules) Take a look at http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ - it uses 'extended' markdown syntax and can export to ConTeXt. If pandoc would not be enough for our documentation needs, I'd probably look at reST or Asciidoc which do Docbook, but no ConTeXt back-end :-( Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D ---------------------------------------------------------------- [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 196 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: markup format ---> ConTeXt 2008-06-03 6:48 ` Maurice Diamantini 2008-06-03 7:43 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2008-06-03 14:09 ` markup format ---> ConTeXt Gour @ 2008-06-03 18:22 ` nico 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: nico @ 2008-06-03 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:48:39 +0200, Maurice Diamantini <Maurice.Diamantini@ensta.fr> wrote: > - dbcontext seams not to be maintained very much dbcontext is still alive, but asleep because of few users, and mostly works in the current state. You can give it a try. You can provide your own context layout to customize section titles and layout. It is much cleaner and easier than the latex .sty hack. As an example of the powerful layout capabilities that ConTeXt provides, you can build a PDF with a layout similar to what docbook FO does. Regards, BG ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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