From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/46915 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: PDF Meta Tags Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:04:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200901192206.37977.bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com> <200901200651.36129.bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com> <954f61110901200606q2568ac9am1eaa997a1d86982a@mail.gmail.com> <200901200730.28547.bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0986736027==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1232528824 1527 80.91.229.12 (21 Jan 2009 09:07:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:07:04 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jan 21 10:08:15 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LPZ4I-0004tD-JN for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:08:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E681FD7D; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:06:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02054-01-2; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:05:42 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832C01FD79; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:05:41 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946401FD79 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:05:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02054-01 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:04:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (filter3-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.71]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C3811FD12 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:04:55 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from fk-out-0910.google.com (fk-out-0910.google.com [209.85.128.188]) by filter3-ams.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n0L94s0K019292 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 10:04:54 +0100 Original-Received: by fk-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id z23so162937fkz.2 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:04:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=J3+oMwIVVIODey/SV1p36wahgOq9VRrfPPr1J4+c8WQ=; b=qnpNjcwNXRJMGcdRYOQgk0Jnpamghmlmkxtc4ajgTWBvKtGiJVomTojPGsvjT/VHmY 9+pfaY5m2OGOv6dVInxEAxCqB5A8dnxYwizcBAHthxQux8Sd0CG2RVuLiR0cLnrqffuo iyo4SfECwV6HOiUJ8oxg+4JY5VRFx7jMAmeHc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=UTdiHuPWorZ3NcK9vNP+lnFhtspl6qwYYc4yHLaZiskunAON5DCwW4KG3Yw1rqn1YC g3I5kxpRop1WaFufRuaF/EP9AVxDLHIcHpJD85FCRDPRC9qA03ZEPg+YIyI7S3p9Dmex ccCVtUqGBqmiiKZGxXMkHsAEVXWbCP2BfZ3QQ= Original-Received: by 10.181.218.14 with SMTP id v14mr2822506bkq.48.1232528694177; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:04:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <200901200730.28547.bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.128.188; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 168379706 - 7ccbff2d4d62 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:46915 Archived-At: --===============0986736027== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d99beffdeee40460fa7205 --0016e6d99beffdeee40460fa7205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Bart C. Wise wrote: > On Tue January 20 2009 7:06:58 am Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: > > 2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise : > > > I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me the > > > exact error message, but I have not received it yet. But he did say > that > > > his printing shop wants the ability to download just the header > > > information from a pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may be up > to > > > 80 mbytes. From that header information they will have the ability to > > > render individual pages rather than the whole document. For example, > > > they could request page 264 and render that single page as a jpeg. > > > > This sounds like "web optimized" PDFs, those contain a second object > > index at the start ("normal" PDFs have it at the end), so a *browser* > > can request selected pages from the *webserver* without loading the > > whole document. > > > > It's meant as a web technology, and I never heard of anyone using it > > in a print workflow. But it's not impossible. > > > > > > Tha has *nothing* to do with tagged PDF! > > "Tagged" is a technology to enable re-flowing text contents to e.g. > > small devices or extracting of content for alternative readers, e.g. > > screenreaders. > > PDFs for print should *not* be tagged in this way, for it can confuse > > a print workflow. > > > > Printshops should adhere to printing standards like PDF/X-1a and > > PDF/X-3 - and these never need web optimization or tagging! > > Excuse the ignorance, but does LuaTeX produce a PDF based on the PDF/X-1a > and > PDF/X-3 standards? > For ghostscript http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/svn/Ps2pdf.htm for pdftex http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/pdfx I'm not sure if luatex can produce these kind of pdf -- luigi --0016e6d99beffdeee40460fa7205 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Bart C.= Wise <= bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com> wrote:
On Tue January 20 2009 7:06:58 am Henning Hraban Ramm= wrote:
> 2009/1/20 Bart C. Wise <bntgcontext@wiseguysweb.com>:
> > I talked to the publisher again and he said that he would send me= the
> > exact error message, but I have not received it yet.  But he= did say that
> > his printing shop wants the ability to download just the header > > information from a pdf rather than the whole pdf file which may b= e up to
> > 80 mbytes.  From that header information they will have the = ability to
> > render individual pages rather than the whole document.  For= example,
> > they could request page 264 and render that single page as a jpeg= .
>
> This sounds like "web optimized" PDFs, those contain a secon= d object
> index at the start ("normal" PDFs have it at the end), so a = *browser*
> can request selected pages from the *webserver* without loading the > whole document.
>
> It's meant as a web technology, and I never heard of anyone using = it
> in a print workflow. But it's not impossible.
>
>
> Tha has *nothing* to do with tagged PDF!
> "Tagged" is a technology to enable re-flowing text contents = to e.g.
> small devices or extracting of content for alternative readers, e.g. > screenreaders.
> PDFs for print should *not* be tagged in this way, for it can confuse<= br> > a print workflow.
>
> Printshops should adhere to printing standards like PDF/X-1a and
> PDF/X-3 - and these never need web optimization or tagging!

Excuse the ignorance, but does LuaTeX produce a PDF based on the PDF/= X-1a and
PDF/X-3 standards?

For ghostscript
 http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/svn/Ps2pdf.htm

for pdftex
 http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/pdf= x

I'm not sure if luatex can produce these kind of pdf

--
luigi

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