From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/50468 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: MKIV, fonts, confusion Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:03:10 +0200 Message-ID: References: <5df5befa0905130618j570c02a5k687b3aea95fa89c0@mail.gmail.com> <2558D296-F58B-4CF8-80AF-262F9412EA5F@gmail.com> <67385EE9-3CC2-4900-B3AA-5D693744D8F0@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0670183073==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242291850 6800 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2009 09:04:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 09:04:10 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu May 14 11:04:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M4WrB-0008LX-K0 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 11:04:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4E31FB8E; Thu, 14 May 2009 11:03:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03644-02; Thu, 14 May 2009 11:03:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3873C1FF7C; Thu, 14 May 2009 11:03:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4CD1FF7C for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 11:03:22 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05803-01 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 11:03:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA511FF41 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 11:03:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f180.google.com (mail-ew0-f180.google.com [209.85.219.180]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4E93Aao000313 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 11:03:11 +0200 Original-Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so885986ewy.2 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 02:03:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wVVEuWeMWcjLwa9i2w8ZJSdU/tYLsAefPp42E8ltCfc=; b=FivCm3HUpjz2NV2i+KMFhNoSVsfSOMPu4pGQ+HyjzdWSVbmM+1ZIctDLt6SSy1BFBC zdjYxAc1ewOwWo5d2KTP4xsNlC8PHNS4nlLKp1XK89SCG+pViN/d2e3O6TXffkD0IKT4 Ljue0kuMLbNZKas5VvkQB9UJpZPpvlw0HkHyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=dZdbk+V5xg4pFqqauP/nZ1fU9bmGeHd9u2GEg/GM5G38cWvVUrNb9VqC/tr6eddwcI SLRFzvjepOtPGL6Z39Jj1slIei6fu+q9Nsge37HLaE+YwTz1LniLm7nBIdMyU1f/4m8c w9VCJ9v4T+QhOPY7x+fg1Xs0hZ2RvoyxGYm6o= Original-Received: by 10.216.20.210 with SMTP id p60mr763757wep.172.1242291790556; Thu, 14 May 2009 02:03:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <67385EE9-3CC2-4900-B3AA-5D693744D8F0@gmail.com> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.219.180; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 225273815 - d61d96dab2d2 - 20090514 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50468 Archived-At: --===============0670183073== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646dc82e2305b0469db98d5 --00163646dc82e2305b0469db98d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Am 13.05.2009 um 17:51 schrieb luigi scarso: > > I have not look at simplefonts as I want -- I planned >> to use it for an article on felltypes for arstexnica >> > > You fixed the problem with the felltype fonts? > > On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Am 13.05.2009 um 17:51 schrieb luigi scarso: > > I have not look at simplefonts as I want -- I planned >> to use it for an article on felltypes for arstexnica >> > > You fixed the problem with the felltype fonts? No, maybe this weekend I will able to investigate a bit more . The problem is the follow: pdf make with felltypes and mkiv looks ugly in AdobeReader9 ---but not in xpdf with latest freetype -- because of a unsual em size. If you install the fonts in OpenOffice, the same document looks ok. $>pdffonts felltype.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- --------- PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 4 0 DUTOMC+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 0 $>pdffonts felltype_oo.pdf name type emb sub uni object ID ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- --------- FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C yes yes no 8 0 FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C So I don't understand how OO "transform" this opentype in a Type1 , and if is it possible to do the same thing in mkiv. -- luigi --00163646dc82e2305b0469db98d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Wolfgan= g Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

Am 13.05.2009 um 17:51 schrieb luigi scarso:


I =C2=A0have not look at =C2=A0simplefonts =C2=A0as I want -- I planned
to use =C2=A0it for an article on felltypes for arstexnica

You fixed the problem with the felltype fonts?


On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Wolfgang Schuster &l= t;sch= uster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:

Am 13.05.2009 um 17:51 schrieb luigi scarso:


I =C2=A0have not look at =C2=A0simplefonts =C2=A0as I want -- I planned
to use =C2=A0it for an article on felltypes for arstexnica

You fixed the problem with the felltype fonts?
No, m= aybe this weekend I will able to investigate a bit more .
The problem is the follow:
pdf make with felltypes and mkiv looks ugly in AdobeReader9 ---but not in xpdf with latest freetype -- because of a unsual em size.
If you inst= all the fonts in OpenOffice, the same document looks ok.


$>pdffonts felltype.pdf
name=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 type=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 emb sub uni object ID
-= ----------------------------------- ----------------- --- --- --- ---------=
PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 CID Type 0C=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 yes y= es yes=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 4=C2=A0 0
DUTOMC+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman CID Type 0C=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 yes yes yes=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5=C2=A0 0

$>= pdffonts felltype_oo.pdf
name=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= type=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 emb sub uni object ID
------------------------------------ ---= -------------- --- --- --- ---------
FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 yes yes no=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 8=C2=A0 0
FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C

So I d= on't understand how OO "transform" this opentype in a Type1 ,=
and if is it possible to do=C2=A0 the same thing in mkiv.




--
luigi

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