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boundary=0016364d2c990663b80469dbedb0 --0016364d2c990663b80469dbedb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > luigi scarso wrote: > > > > $>pdffonts felltype.pdf > > name type emb sub uni object > ID > > ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- > --------- > > PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C yes yes yes 4 > 0 > > DUTOMC+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman CID Type 0C yes yes yes 5 > 0 > > > > $>pdffonts felltype_oo.pdf > > name type emb sub uni object > ID > > ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- > --------- > > FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C yes yes no 8 > 0 > > FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C > > > > So I don't understand how OO "transform" this opentype in a Type1 , > > I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 > glyphs from the font. yes, a sort of creation of font encodings at fly for more than 256 glyphs -- but why ? Also, does it fix em size, given that this appears to be the root of the problem ? > Can you experiment a bit and see what happens > if you use more of them? > > yes ,if I have time this weekend -- volunteer welcome, of course. -- luigi --0016364d2c990663b80469dbedb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Taco H= oekwater <taco@e= lvenkind.com> wrote:


luigi scarso wrote:
>
> $>pdffonts felltype.pdf
> name =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 type =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0emb sub uni object ID
> ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---= ------
> PDPWHW+LMRoman12-Regular =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 CID= Type 0C =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 yes yes yes =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A04 =C2=A00
> DUTOMC+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman CID Type 0C =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = yes yes yes =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A05 =C2=A00
>
> $>pdffonts felltype_oo.pdf
> name =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 type =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0emb sub uni object ID
> ------------------------------------ ----------------- --- --- --- ---= ------
> FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 yes yes no =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 8 =C2=A00
> FTLUYL+IM_FELL_Double_Pica_PRO_Roman Type 1C
>
> So I don't understand how OO "transform" this opentype i= n a Type1 ,

I guess that that is not hard when a document uses no more than 256 glyphs from the font.

yes, a sort of creation of font= encodings at fly for more than 256 glyphs -- but why ?
Also, does it fi= x em size, given that this appears to be the root of the problem ?
=C2=A0
Can y= ou experiment a bit and see what happens
if you use more of them?

yes ,if I have time this weekend -- volunteer welco= me, of course.
=C2=A0


--
luigi
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