From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/50488 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: MKIV, fonts, confusion Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 14:27:58 +0200 Message-ID: References: <2558D296-F58B-4CF8-80AF-262F9412EA5F@gmail.com> <67385EE9-3CC2-4900-B3AA-5D693744D8F0@gmail.com> <4A0BE02D.9070200@elvenkind.com> <4A0BE5AC.3040208@elvenkind.com> <4A0BEAE7.1070809@elvenkind.com> <20090514110805.GA9176@phare.normalesup.org> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0475613301==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242304137 12226 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2009 12:28:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 12:28:57 +0000 (UTC) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu May 14 14:28:48 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M4a3L-0000EB-Jy for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:28:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 755A71FF91; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:28:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19474-06; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:28:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CD11FF1C; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:28:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE12E1FF1C for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:28:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19476-05 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:27:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C77D1FF0D for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:27:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.150]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4ECRwHK014827 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 14:27:59 +0200 Original-Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so330923eyg.38 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 05:27:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eNnf8jvhc1KP01SR1m0XGGQ3yOvbjcj65HQ6NNhYUqM=; b=Lk+5qfSDU8BcZaJl0++k91uKvvbz5iUrntqN4dEEJsGElD5uAqgqP4LTAQH15/2cAq QqrGTW0/0aXHSdhmZOqR8gOJlwCKf0kkgaHwJ5O7V6ed1TWNLxs15mn2xwwgDyGpIylI +8OfqY3mPT+8YgJEZ4ywENVnYJEl0g3b+QsDc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qoO07T9b7DfLfs85Lr0P9breFOWtFxSr+RIEdhfUIYIRQYm4S1W3pg+aWUNfSGNLRr L2zbY3eb60t4YlsB4yV9KJZ64fOjs61sZbmb0v2tZW+6yArTGcIltBmot6oJ+c+4SL05 IWkX2ebLph8wP/aJKVO8R4XD9O3wD7JUg/1bA= Original-Received: by 10.216.7.207 with SMTP id 57mr852830wep.104.1242304078448; Thu, 14 May 2009 05:27:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090514110805.GA9176@phare.normalesup.org> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=74.125.78.150; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 225487694 - d08934a54e05 - 20090514 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50488 Archived-At: --===============0475613301== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c758e4c88f20469de7597 --0016364c758e4c88f20469de7597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Arthur Reutenauer < arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org> wrote: > > arthur told me that can arise rounding errors. > > You have to remember I used to be a mathematician. I say things that > are meant to be true, not meant to be helpful :-) > > If you want to be sure that LuaTeX's output looks right in the most > recent versions of Adobe Reader, editing the font is the way to go > (although there might be license issues with commercial fonts). Of > course conversion is not perfect, but you can't have it both way! > Besides, the metrics won't change if you only modify upm; only the > outlines do. > > > I should try to convert to Type1 instead > > That should indeed work if you don't need more than 256 glyphs in the > font (are you *sure* you don't?). > > Arthur > what I mean is: chose an encoding convert otf to type1 as is, make a pdf with mkiv check if it's ok. It's only for experiment , of course: Fell type come with a native ttf edition which is OK (or better, really OK), and one should chose this one to avoid any problems (so eventually I can compare pdfs ). -- luigi --0016364c758e4c88f20469de7597 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Arthur = Reutenauer <arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org> wrote:
> arthur told me that can arise rounding errors.

=C2=A0You have to remember I used to be a mathematician. =C2=A0I say= things that
are meant to be true, not meant to be helpful :-)

=C2=A0If you want to be sure that LuaTeX's output looks right in the m= ost
recent versions of Adobe Reader, editing the font is the way to go
(although there might be license issues with commercial fonts). =C2=A0Of course conversion is not perfect, but you can't have it both way!
Besides, the metrics won't change if you only modify upm; only the
outlines do.

> I should try to convert to Type1 instead

=C2=A0That should indeed work if you don't need more than 256 gl= yphs in the
font (are you *sure* you don't?).

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Arthur
what I mean is:
chose an encoding
convert otf to t= ype1 as is,
make a pdf with mkiv
check if it's ok.

It= 9;s only for experiment , of course:
Fell type come with a native ttf ed= ition which is OK (or better, really OK),
and one should chose this one to avoid any problems
(so even= tually I can compare pdfs ).

--
luigi

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