From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/51066 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support) Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:21:16 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1285.212.192.224.186.1244218458.squirrel@squirrelmail.iaas.msu.ru> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0941539836==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244229738 29611 80.91.229.12 (5 Jun 2009 19:22:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 19:22:18 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jun 05 21:22:16 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MCezX-0001KN-5X for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:22:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799481FB89; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:22:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16297-06; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:21:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D729A1FB39; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:21:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94D61FB39 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:21:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16301-03 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:21:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-nij.mf.surf.net (filter3-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.154]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A03C1FB38 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:21:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f228.google.com (mail-ew0-f228.google.com [209.85.219.228]) by filter3-nij.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n55JLHmU020348 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2009 21:21:17 +0200 Original-Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so2387417ewy.2 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:21:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q/7NBS2Nu3SHwURaHS4QObmgJRHVUvmJDQqiraQZl3k=; b=RwsVChaAYLbBwq2T1RwAIXm/J6SHomcfz6a7E29n4G7NNqJlbtMfsqWej7Lb5SvlX3 Rnn1nG60nrZkNuaMOpgn69hI08/lQqSyrR3T9bX2CtN1WWOtfXMYctpErlfk8wYWSA1g llCK9WSMFcEIaDSp29rparpBiYV8jIzxnhnNM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JB2OjTU+0rpN1RCWnqr9lt2n4LRB2ZAGnOFLI6Qd2DfZt0dRRbD7tKTzMAPfODqaig XQCpqT8A2/bZnKdfEvcA7CYf1MhEMcXHMMR2D8WKzYfekg/iRi9F9rQJNbyJZ/GtC1Wf BrOLjXj8Z7nLVEBH2y0pxDw9L4cS5zm9eusJ4= Original-Received: by 10.216.20.197 with SMTP id p47mr1363516wep.13.1244229676487; Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:21:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.219.228; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 238325743 - d4317a138603 - 20090605 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.154 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:51066 Archived-At: --===============0941539836== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636499fa3e2d5c5046b9ecb2f --001636499fa3e2d5c5046b9ecb2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Michail Vidiassov wrote: > Dear Luigi, > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, luigi scarso wrote: > > a draft for an analog of LaTeX movie15 package for including Adobe >> Reader >> compatible 3d models into PDF files is at >> >> hi michael >> some time ago Renaud Aubin discover >> http://meshlab.sourceforge.net/ >> 2008-11-22 19:132008-11-22 18:13 +100UTC >> Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf >> > > Sorry, I fail to understand your comment. > ah, it's not a comment at all. Just to keep 3d things under the same subject > > On one hand, MeshLab can convert from other 3D formats to U3D (older Adobe > format) and embed U3D into PDF files via LaTeX with movie15 package, thus > it may be useful in 3D PDF workflow in general, on the other hand it does > not have anything to do with ConTeXt. > > > > While MeshLab may be of great use if you have to convert old data or > process output from some existing tool, in cases when you make your model > from scratch by hand or create 3D model file in your own program Asymptote > may be a better choice since it supports newer PRC 3D format, that is much > richer in features and has better prospects when it comes to support and > development by Adobe. On the minus side Asymptote is under active > development and some of its advantages are not there yet - but so is > ConTeXt. > yes just now with blender http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/features/ and meshlib one can (in theory) embed 3d models using \executesystemcommand and your macros. BTW I'm not aware of any opensource tools (apart asymptote) that are PRC 3D-able: do you ? > > > Sincerely,, Michail > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > -- luigi --001636499fa3e2d5c5046b9ecb2f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Michail = Vidiassov <master@iaas.msu.ru> wrote:
Dear Luigi,


On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, luigi scarso wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0a draft for an analog of LaTeX movie15 package for inc= luding Adobe Reader
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0compatible 3d models into PDF files is at

hi michael
some time ago Renaud Aubin discover
http://meshla= b.sourceforge.net/
2008-11-22=C2=A019:132008-11-22 18:13=C2=A0+100UTC
Re: [NTG-context] embedding 3d pdf

Sorry, I fail to understand your comment.
ah, it's not a comment at all.
Just to keep 3d thi= ngs under the same subject=C2=A0

On one hand, MeshLab can convert from other 3D formats to U3D (older Adobe = format) and embed U3D into PDF files via LaTeX with movie15 package, thus it may be useful in 3D PDF workflow in general, on the other hand it does n= ot have anything to do with ConTeXt.
=C2=A0


While MeshLab may be of great use if you have to convert old data or proces= s output from some existing tool, in cases when you make your model from sc= ratch by hand or create 3D model file in your own program Asymptote may be = a better choice since it supports newer PRC 3D format, that is much richer = in features and has better prospects when it comes to support and developme= nt by Adobe. On the minus side Asymptote is under active development and so= me of its advantages are not there yet - but so is ConTeXt.
yes just now with blender
http://www.blender.org/= features-gallery/features/
and meshlib
one can (in theory) embed = 3d models
using
\executesystemcommand
and your macros.
BTW
I'm not aware of an= y opensource tools (apart asymptote)
that are PRC 3D-able: do you ?
= =C2=A0


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Sincerely,, Michail

_______________________________________________________________________= ____________
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maillist : ntg-cont= ext@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage =C2=A0: http= ://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
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