From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/51078 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: 3D PDF support (AKA asymptote support) Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:43:32 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1285.212.192.224.186.1244218458.squirrel@squirrelmail.iaas.msu.ru> <4A2971E4.1070001@nibua-r.org> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1299250105==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244274267 22898 80.91.229.12 (6 Jun 2009 07:44:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 07:44:27 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Jun 06 09:44:25 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MCqZf-00060I-Sp for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 09:44:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5991FB6D; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:44:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19277-04; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:43:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1151FB57; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:43:48 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1941FB57 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:43:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14861-06 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:43:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608701FB39 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:43:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f228.google.com (mail-ew0-f228.google.com [209.85.219.228]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n567hWmc020219 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2009 09:43:32 +0200 Original-Received: by ewy28 with SMTP id 28so2740935ewy.2 for ; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:43:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1Ba3//+S9oZhd6+fs8rLPkMrGAX0dc1aDqIp1wwXIZU=; b=YZY9VmOrVnulGCGqM1S8gSTeM4jgjhQPK7AMhAi/o8RcIngxACOekt7k0SBHuOVz+0 9cnb8TPax0LoOx2gNgb6VdRSGBKowGhOWj1GlEHvMDDXjO5pYDZRBGXuuRWP8Er7Xij7 oJTixcr1CrPPc2oPjdv3Mwn+b/MLHXoha3PCw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BQ6lv+3q6S99QcfX+HpeLbODmq6x1kE8BGVMYs2E5HP34xrSra8IlCNHtdhnllshcA 62857JKmHM3TuwwtLC6Xg1I1CCqjpiKZruDGSju2IyaB+0Ix484ycdAGXjx3G8n1ut4G hGvrzg2YDGjaxdmP/Cz1Q/vshKmazAMrRNK3s= Original-Received: by 10.216.11.137 with SMTP id 9mr1519222wex.180.1244274212220; Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:43:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.219.228; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 238432559 - 649dd50c054c - 20090606 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:51078 Archived-At: --===============1299250105== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364c7c076c31a2046ba92aca --0016364c7c076c31a2046ba92aca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 6:07 AM, Michail Vidiassov wrote: > Dear Luigi, > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, luigi scarso wrote: > > Asymptote may be a better choice since it supports newer PRC 3D >> format >> > > Ouch, another new 3D format! This will never end. I bet no valuable Open >> Source modeler (i.e. blender) support this one. The fact that asy >> supports PRC is good but I have no illusion about the conclusion of the 3d >> formats' war (just an endless pain for developpers)... >> >> Asymptote has a prc dir >> asymptote-1.75/prc >> maybe can be a lib too.. >> > > > To say the truth Adobe Acrobat SDK has PRC API in it, but it is > Windows-only, goes for big-$$$ and for that is "Not licensed to run in a > batch or server mode". > simple hacks to Makefiles in prc dir of Asymptote permit to compile test and PRCTools/makePRC > As to the role of Adobe in 3D formats war - it reminds me of a quote > attributed to a North Vietnamese general: "You Americans have fast choppers > and jeeps, so you can rapidly move troops to the point of engagemment. But > we are _already_ there!". The installed base of Adobe Readers may be a new > factor in that endless Tweedle D.* free-for-all ;) > on linux Acrobat 9 SDK/Version 1/InterAppCommunicationSupport/CSamples/ReadPdfPrcVC/SampleFile/mower_carb.pdf crash acroread9 but not acroread8..... -- luigi --0016364c7c076c31a2046ba92aca Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 6:07 AM, Michail = Vidiassov <maste= r@iaas.msu.ru> wrote:
Dear Luigi,

On Fri, 5 Jun 2009, luigi scarso wrote:

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Asymptote may be a better choice = since it supports newer PRC 3D format

Ouch, another new 3D format! This will never end. I bet no valuable Open So= urce modeler (i.e. blender) support this one. The fact that asy
supports PRC is good but I have no illusion about the conclusion of the 3d = formats' war (just an endless pain for developpers)...

Asymptote has a prc dir
=C2=A0asymptote-1.75/prc
maybe can be a lib too..
=C2=A0

To say the truth Adobe Acrobat SDK has PRC API in it, but it is Windows-onl= y, goes for big-$$$ and for that is "Not licensed to run in a batch or= server mode".
simple hacks to Makefiles in prc dir of Asymptote permit<= br>to compile
test and PRCTools/makePRC



As to the role of Adobe in 3D formats war - it reminds me of a quote attrib= uted to a North Vietnamese general: "You Americans have fast choppers = and jeeps, so you can rapidly move troops to the point of engagemment. But = we are _already_ there!". The installed base of Adobe Readers may be a= new factor in that endless Tweedle D.* free-for-all ;)
on linux
Acrobat 9 SDK/Version 1/InterAppCommunicatio= nSupport/CSamples/ReadPdfPrcVC/SampleFile/mower_carb.pdf
crash acroread9=
but not acroread8.....

--
luigi

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