* Duotones with spot colors
@ 2009-07-07 13:50 Piotr Kopszak
2009-07-07 14:04 ` luigi scarso
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From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2009-07-07 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello list,
I am preparing for a next project which will be printed in two
colours. Obviously, perfect opportunity to use duotones. However I got
my duotone illustrations in CMYK tiffs with images in yellow and black
channels. Obviously black could stay but I would like to convert the
yellow channel to the spot colour I am going to use. Any ideas
(without using Photoshop) ?
Many thanks in advance
Piotr
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-07 13:50 Duotones with spot colors Piotr Kopszak @ 2009-07-07 14:04 ` luigi scarso 2009-07-07 14:11 ` Hans Hagen 2009-07-07 14:36 ` William Adams 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-07-07 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 518 bytes --] On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Piotr Kopszak <kopszak@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello list, > > I am preparing for a next project which will be printed in two > colours. Obviously, perfect opportunity to use duotones. However I got > my duotone illustrations in CMYK tiffs with images in yellow and black > channels. Obviously black could stay but I would like to convert the > yellow channel to the spot colour I am going to use. Any ideas > (without using Photoshop) ? > Did you seen http://www.libtiff.org -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 865 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-07 13:50 Duotones with spot colors Piotr Kopszak 2009-07-07 14:04 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-07-07 14:11 ` Hans Hagen 2009-07-09 14:51 ` Piotr Kopszak 2009-07-07 14:36 ` William Adams 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-07-07 14:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Piotr Kopszak wrote: > Hello list, > > I am preparing for a next project which will be printed in two > colours. Obviously, perfect opportunity to use duotones. However I got > my duotone illustrations in CMYK tiffs with images in yellow and black > channels. Obviously black could stay but I would like to convert the > yellow channel to the spot colour I am going to use. Any ideas > (without using Photoshop) ? as it is possible to colorize bw bitmap images in context i suppose that doing the same with a dual channel image is doable as well but i never tried is (low on my list of priorities so you're unlicky that we never needed that variant in projects) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-07 14:11 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-07-09 14:51 ` Piotr Kopszak 2009-07-09 16:26 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2009-07-09 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users BTW, I am not able to get a duotone image with recent minimals in the example published here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Colors#Colorizing_Grayscale_Pictures \setuplayout[header=0pt,footer=0pt,width=middle,height=middle,backspace=1cm,topspace=1cm] \setupcolors[state=start] \startbuffer \definecolor [blue] [c=1, m=.38, y=0, k=.64] \definecolor [yellow] [c=0, m=.28, y=1, k=.06] \definespotcolor [blue-100] [blue] [p=1] \definespotcolor [yellow-100] [yellow] [p=1] \definemultitonecolor [combicolor] [blue=.12, yellow=.28] [c=.1, m=.1, y=.3, k=.1] \definemultitonecolor [combicolor-b] [blue=1] [c=1, m=.38, y=0, k=.64] % force multitone \definemultitonecolor [combicolor-y] [yellow=1] [c=0, m=.28, y=1, k=.06] % force multitone \useexternalfigure[demo-a][mill.png] [object=no, width=.2\textwidth] \useexternalfigure[demo-b][hacker-bw.jpg][object=no, width=.2\textwidth] \startbaselinecorrection \startcombination[4*1] {\externalfigure[demo-a]} {no color} {\externalfigure[demo-a][color=combicolor]} {indexed duotone} {\externalfigure[demo-a][color=combicolor-b]} {spot color} {\externalfigure[demo-a][color=combicolor-y]} {spot color} \stopcombination \stopbaselinecorrection \startbaselinecorrection \startcombination[4*1] {\externalfigure[demo-b]} {no color} {\externalfigure[demo-b][color=combicolor]} {indexed duotone} {\externalfigure[demo-b][color=combicolor-b]} {spot color} {\externalfigure[demo-b][color=combicolor-y]} {spot color} \stopcombination \stopbaselinecorrection \startbaselinecorrection \startcombination[4*1] {\externalfigure[demo-a]} {no color} {\externalfigure[demo-a][color=combicolor]} {indexed duotone} {\externalfigure[demo-a][color=blue-100]} {spot color} {\externalfigure[demo-a][color=yellow-100]} {spot color} \stopcombination \stopbaselinecorrection \startbaselinecorrection \startcombination[4*1] {\externalfigure[demo-b]} {no color} {\externalfigure[demo-b][color=combicolor]} {indexed duotone} {\externalfigure[demo-b][color=blue-100]} {spot color} {\externalfigure[demo-b][color=yellow-100]} {spot color} \stopcombination \stopbaselinecorrection \stopbuffer \getbuffer \typebuffer \stoptext The images in the column "indexed duotone" do not show up. Piotr 2009/7/7 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>: > Piotr Kopszak wrote: >> >> Hello list, >> >> I am preparing for a next project which will be printed in two >> colours. Obviously, perfect opportunity to use duotones. However I got >> my duotone illustrations in CMYK tiffs with images in yellow and black >> channels. Obviously black could stay but I would like to convert the >> yellow channel to the spot colour I am going to use. Any ideas >> (without using Photoshop) ? > > as it is possible to colorize bw bitmap images in context i suppose that > doing the same with a dual channel image is doable as well but i never tried > is (low on my list of priorities so you're unlicky that we never needed that > variant in projects) > > Hans > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- http://okle.pl ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-09 14:51 ` Piotr Kopszak @ 2009-07-09 16:26 ` Hans Hagen 2009-07-09 19:23 ` Piotr Kopszak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-07-09 16:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Piotr Kopszak wrote: > BTW, > > I am not able to get a duotone image with recent minimals in the > example published here: > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Colors#Colorizing_Grayscale_Pictures the current public version of mkiv does not provide it (beta does but that one is not yet posted) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-09 16:26 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-07-09 19:23 ` Piotr Kopszak 2009-07-09 19:49 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2009-07-09 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users I can't get it right with mkii and xetex either. Piotr 2009/7/9 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>: > Piotr Kopszak wrote: >> >> BTW, >> >> I am not able to get a duotone image with recent minimals in the >> example published here: >> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Colors#Colorizing_Grayscale_Pictures > > the current public version of mkiv does not provide it (beta does but that > one is not yet posted) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- http://okle.pl ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-09 19:23 ` Piotr Kopszak @ 2009-07-09 19:49 ` Hans Hagen 2009-07-10 9:26 ` Piotr Kopszak 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-07-09 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Piotr Kopszak wrote: > I can't get it right with mkii and xetex either. forget about xetex; mkii uses a pdftex feature (access to resource dict) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-09 19:49 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-07-10 9:26 ` Piotr Kopszak 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2009-07-10 9:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Yes, but I don't arrive at expected results with pdftex either. Piotr 2009/7/9 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>: > Piotr Kopszak wrote: >> >> I can't get it right with mkii and xetex either. > > forget about xetex; mkii uses a pdftex feature (access to resource dict) > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- http://okle.pl ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-07 13:50 Duotones with spot colors Piotr Kopszak 2009-07-07 14:04 ` luigi scarso 2009-07-07 14:11 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-07-07 14:36 ` William Adams 2009-07-07 17:20 ` Piotr Kopszak 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: William Adams @ 2009-07-07 14:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:50 AM, Piotr Kopszak wrote: > I am preparing for a next project which will be printed in two > colours. Obviously, perfect opportunity to use duotones. However I got > my duotone illustrations in CMYK tiffs with images in yellow and black > channels. Obviously black could stay but I would like to convert the > yellow channel to the spot colour I am going to use. Any ideas > (without using Photoshop) ? Leave the images be, set the things you want to appear in the spot colour as yellow, then tell the printer that the yellow plate is the spot colour and to suppress cyan and magenta. Or use the spot colour and tell the printer to merge the yellow plate w/ the spot colour (check first --- while all RIPs should be able to do this, not all printers will be willing to). Or use Enfocus PitStop to post-process the .pdf. However, unless the spot colour is _very_ light, I doubt that you'll be able to use the images as is --- they'll probably print too dark, so you'll need to process them anyway. I'd make a PhotoShop action to convert the images to multi-channel, then change the yellow plate to the spot colour, then apply a curve to lighten the spot colour, then save the image (but make sure you keep an original), then I'd use a second action to review all of the files on a calibrated monitor, tweaking as necessary and going back to original images at need. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-07 14:36 ` William Adams @ 2009-07-07 17:20 ` Piotr Kopszak 2009-07-08 13:39 ` William Adams 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Piotr Kopszak @ 2009-07-07 17:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Many thanks for all replies, Well, maybe someone comes up with a solution one day. It would be nice to have a complete Photoshop-less production environment on linux. BTW, can tif support spot colors at all, I haven't found any mention of that anywhere, hence I don't think libtiff might be of use. Piotr 2009/7/7 William Adams <will.adams@frycomm.com>: > On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:50 AM, Piotr Kopszak wrote: > >> I am preparing for a next project which will be printed in two >> colours. Obviously, perfect opportunity to use duotones. However I got >> my duotone illustrations in CMYK tiffs with images in yellow and black >> channels. Obviously black could stay but I would like to convert the >> yellow channel to the spot colour I am going to use. Any ideas >> (without using Photoshop) ? > > Leave the images be, set the things you want to appear in the spot colour as > yellow, then tell the printer that the yellow plate is the spot colour and > to suppress cyan and magenta. > > Or use the spot colour and tell the printer to merge the yellow plate w/ the > spot colour (check first --- while all RIPs should be able to do this, not > all printers will be willing to). > > Or use Enfocus PitStop to post-process the .pdf. > > However, unless the spot colour is _very_ light, I doubt that you'll be able > to use the images as is --- they'll probably print too dark, so you'll need > to process them anyway. I'd make a PhotoShop action to convert the images to > multi-channel, then change the yellow plate to the spot colour, then apply a > curve to lighten the spot colour, then save the image (but make sure you > keep an original), then I'd use a second action to review all of the files > on a calibrated monitor, tweaking as necessary and going back to original > images at need. > > William > > > -- > William Adams > senior graphic designer > Fry Communications > Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- http://okle.pl ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-07 17:20 ` Piotr Kopszak @ 2009-07-08 13:39 ` William Adams 2009-07-08 13:45 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: William Adams @ 2009-07-08 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote: > BTW, can tif support spot colors at all, I haven't found any mention > of that anywhere, hence I don't think libtiff might be of use. One can only get spot colours for a bitmap into a .eps (or .pdf) or .psd. What one could do using libtiff is split the channels of the file, toss magenta and cyan, then use a different tool to composite the two bitmaps, assigning the yellow bitmap to the spot colour --- FreeHand could do this via scripting, if ConTeXt can place a bitmap on a particular spot colour plate and control overprinting of bitmaps, one could handle the balance in it. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-08 13:39 ` William Adams @ 2009-07-08 13:45 ` luigi scarso 2009-07-08 15:47 ` William Adams 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-07-08 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 483 bytes --] On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:39 PM, William Adams <will.adams@frycomm.com>wrote: > On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Piotr Kopszak wrote: > > BTW, can tif support spot colors at all, I haven't found any mention >> of that anywhere, hence I don't think libtiff might be of use. >> > > > One can only get spot colours for a bitmap into a .eps (or .pdf) or .psd. > > What one could do using libtiff is split the channels of the file, toss > magenta and cyan, > hmm how do you do it ? -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1003 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Duotones with spot colors 2009-07-08 13:45 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-07-08 15:47 ` William Adams 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: William Adams @ 2009-07-08 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Jul 8, 2009, at 9:45 AM, luigi scarso wrote: > On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 3:39 PM, William Adams > <will.adams@frycomm.com> wrote: >> What one could do using libtiff is split the channels of the file, >> toss magenta and cyan, > hmm > how do you do it ? My apologies, that should have read, ``What one _should_ be able to do....'' I would expect to be able to do as I described, but I'm not certain it can be done. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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