From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/52018 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: I can't change startitemize[n]--> startitemize[1] Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:48:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4A685239.1090601@telefonica.net> <99771342-5FD0-4A61-97F8-E49B383CD6EE@gmail.com> <4A686E0D.7000505@wxs.nl> <4A6874AB.2000301@telefonica.net> <4A6875B3.6090200@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1565882679==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1248360552 18497 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2009 14:49:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:49:12 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jul 23 16:49:03 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MTzbR-0007FN-12 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:49:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710831FC09; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:49:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08988-01-3; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1084F1FB7F; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B8B1FB7F for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:48:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08988-01-2 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:48:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03F1E1FB6D for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:48:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.146]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n6NEm4Mm028071 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:48:04 +0200 Original-Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so284927eyh.38 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:48:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZI6vZyagD0VWGd9XX1bOIw7t1iZiyHVlP4/oNHVTbwY=; b=SUgrNf6521X3fqkLpWJsP8LumXpkxETlf/QN0V85BcW7MHhNU6bj8zxsAjqsn2ix4e jvmoyvtc22NPnWcut0fzKJe6JxQpPTHkakoag3XVXjSljgnM40KJawUWdqB1gpwuSfwX rRKcMWmi/zeTsb+RyfUmOCFbMyN3XLtldmsSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oCB/f3bNSzqeiEjO3dl5utOH6IpMMobPJgL8sFvVmlOK3xy3hENGsG96ckufOpHCWH qHL7dQyOVkpe0OBgr0P4LlKHwP/OQRuKG4Xh983WUUIz73T7rVNaCF/q9CYQkaLQDJur 8ib9FWn1yRuPvGh6lkocgXwJc14W4gSY1ZXVs= Original-Received: by 10.216.13.210 with SMTP id b60mr642840web.97.1248360483849; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:48:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A6875B3.6090200@wxs.nl> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=74.125.78.146; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 265018361 - b3bb4a2b0c8c - 20090723 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:52018 Archived-At: --===============1565882679== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c1ad0310807046f6093ac --0016e64c1ad0310807046f6093ac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Xan wrote: > > Really, I did not know that. It's a messy thing that we could not define >> what we like ;-) >> > > it's the nature of a tex macro package; ok, i can add some strict testing > for in in mkiv but even then it might just be that someone who knows th > einternals (like wolfgang or wolfgang or wolfgang) wants to overload > something built in by something better > why not discipline ? I mean something like 0) context macro are ok 1) \usemodule[foo] are ok (no collision with macros in 0) 2) define your macros inside \startPrivate[namespace] ... \stopPrivate 3) explicit redefinition of macros in 0,1 by 3) should be no collision between 0,1,2 -- luigi --0016e64c1ad0310807046f6093ac Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Hans Ha= gen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
Xan wrote:

Really, I did not know that. It's a messy thing that we could not defin= e what we like ;-)

it's the nature of a tex macro package; ok, i can add some strict testi= ng for in in mkiv but even then it might just be that someone who knows th = einternals (like wolfgang or wolfgang or wolfgang) wants to overload someth= ing built in by something better
why not discipline ?

I mean something like =
0) context macro are ok
1) \usemodule[foo] are ok (no collision with= macros in 0)
2) define your macros inside
\startPrivate[namespace] ...
\stopPrivate
3) explicit=C2=A0 redefinition of macros in 0,1
<= br>by 3) should be no collision between 0,1,2


-- <= br>luigi

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