* embed fonts @ 2009-10-16 12:00 Thomas A. Schmitz 2009-10-16 12:09 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-16 12:16 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-10-16 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing ConTeXt users list for Hi all, this seems like a very basic question, but I haven't found anything on the wiki and in the archive: I'm typesetting a book with mkiv, and the printer wants all fonts completely embedded. I knew how to do this in mkii, but what about mkiv? (Btw, I'm using \enableprotruding and \enableadjusting, would this make any difference for embedding the fonts?) Thanks, and all best Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 12:00 embed fonts Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-10-16 12:09 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-16 13:32 ` Thomas A. Schmitz ` (2 more replies) 2009-10-16 12:16 ` luigi scarso 1 sibling, 3 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-16 12:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > Hi all, > > this seems like a very basic question, but I haven't found anything on > the wiki and in the archive: I'm typesetting a book with mkiv, and the > printer wants all fonts completely embedded. I knew how to do this in > mkii, but what about mkiv? (Btw, I'm using \enableprotruding and > \enableadjusting, would this make any difference for embedding the fonts?) font are always embedded but subsetted which is quite normal; the only reason for full embedding is that they want to tweak your text afterwards which is not what you want (given that they have the apps to deal with it). protruding and adjusting is not related Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 12:09 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-16 13:32 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 2009-10-17 10:46 ` Andreas Schneider 2009-10-17 22:41 ` Martin Schröder 2 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-10-16 13:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Oct 16, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: >> Hi all, >> this seems like a very basic question, but I haven't found anything >> on the wiki and in the archive: I'm typesetting a book with mkiv, >> and the printer wants all fonts completely embedded. I knew how to >> do this in mkii, but what about mkiv? (Btw, I'm using >> \enableprotruding and \enableadjusting, would this make any >> difference for embedding the fonts?) > > font are always embedded but subsetted which is quite normal; the > only reason for full embedding is that they want to tweak your text > afterwards which is not what you want (given that they have the apps > to deal with it). > > protruding and adjusting is not related > > Hans > > OK, I'll see if I can convince them... Thanks Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 12:09 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-16 13:32 ` Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-10-17 10:46 ` Andreas Schneider 2009-10-17 13:26 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-17 22:48 ` Martin Schröder 2009-10-17 22:41 ` Martin Schröder 2 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Andreas Schneider @ 2009-10-17 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:09:28 +0200 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > font are always embedded but subsetted which is quite normal; the > only reason for full embedding is that they want to tweak your text > afterwards which is not what you want (given that they have the apps > to deal with it). > > protruding and adjusting is not related > > Hans It might also be, that they want to comply with PDF/A ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A As far as I can tell, that seems to demand fully embedded fonts. As inconvenient as it might be, it's at least an ISO standard :D Regards, Andreas. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-17 10:46 ` Andreas Schneider @ 2009-10-17 13:26 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-17 22:48 ` Martin Schröder 1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-17 13:26 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Andreas Schneider wrote: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:09:28 +0200 > Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > >> font are always embedded but subsetted which is quite normal; the >> only reason for full embedding is that they want to tweak your text >> afterwards which is not what you want (given that they have the apps >> to deal with it). >> >> protruding and adjusting is not related >> >> Hans > > > It might also be, that they want to comply with PDF/A ... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A > > As far as I can tell, that seems to demand fully embedded fonts. As > inconvenient as it might be, it's at least an ISO standard :D a slight complication (which as usual results in a few hours work) is that we need to trigger this pretty soon in a run and as such it can become only a commandline option a next release will provide --directives=fonts.embedall but first i (read: taco) need to figure out why setting the embedding flag in a tfm table does not work out as expected Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-17 10:46 ` Andreas Schneider 2009-10-17 13:26 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-17 22:48 ` Martin Schröder 2009-10-19 16:10 ` luigi scarso 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Martin Schröder @ 2009-10-17 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users 2009/10/17 Andreas Schneider <aksdb@gmx.de>: > As far as I can tell, that seems to demand fully embedded fonts. As It doesn't. Subsets are allowed. See also http://www.pdfa.org/doku.php?id=start:en Best Martin ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-17 22:48 ` Martin Schröder @ 2009-10-19 16:10 ` luigi scarso 2009-10-19 17:53 ` Peter Rolf 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-10-19 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 349 bytes --] On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Martin Schröder <martin@oneiros.de> wrote: > 2009/10/17 Andreas Schneider <aksdb@gmx.de>: > > As far as I can tell, that seems to demand fully embedded fonts. As > > It doesn't. Subsets are allowed. > > See also http://www.pdfa.org/doku.php?id=start:en > > What about pdf/a and opentype ? -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 778 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-19 16:10 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-10-19 17:53 ` Peter Rolf 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2009-10-19 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2553 bytes --] luigi scarso schrieb: > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Martin Schröder <martin@oneiros.de > <mailto:martin@oneiros.de>> wrote: > > 2009/10/17 Andreas Schneider <aksdb@gmx.de <mailto:aksdb@gmx.de>>: > > As far as I can tell, that seems to demand fully embedded fonts. As > > It doesn't. Subsets are allowed. > > See also http://www.pdfa.org/doku.php?id=start:en > > What about pdf/a and opentype ? > see http://www.pdfa.org/doku.php?id=pdfa:en:faq According to the PDF specification, OpenType fonts can only be embedded beginning with PDF version 1.6; PDF/A-1 requires PDF 1.4. This would mean that PDF files with embedded OpenType fonts cannot be converted to PDF/A. Despite this, the conversion seems to have worked. It is correct that OpenType fonts cannot be embedded in PDF/A files. However, OpenType fonts are often converted to another type (TrueType or Type1) when they are embedded, so creating a PDF/A file should usually not be a problem. If Acrobat 8 recognized the file that you converted to PDF/A as being compliant, then a conversion of the font type probably took place. You can verify the font type of embedded fonts using the Preflight verification report (Check box: “Show detailed information about document”, and then look under “Fonts”). see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A A new part to the standard, ISO 19005, Part-2 (PDF/A-2), is currently being worked on by the Technical Committee. PDF/A-2 will address some of the new features added with versions 1.5, 1.6 and 1.7 of the PDF Reference. PDF/A-2 should be backwards compatible, i.e. all valid PDF/A-1 documents should also be compliant with PDF/A-2. However PDF/A-2 compliant files will not necessarily be PDF/A-1 compliant. The font type conversion in Acrobat is interesting. Anyhow, I never used PDF/A. > -- > luigi > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4640 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 12:09 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-16 13:32 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 2009-10-17 10:46 ` Andreas Schneider @ 2009-10-17 22:41 ` Martin Schröder 2 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Martin Schröder @ 2009-10-17 22:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users 2009/10/16 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>: > font are always embedded but subsetted which is quite normal; the only > reason for full embedding is that they want to tweak your text afterwards > which is not what you want (given that they have the apps to deal with it). And full embedding may not be allowed by your font license. Best Martin ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 12:00 embed fonts Thomas A. Schmitz 2009-10-16 12:09 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-16 12:16 ` luigi scarso 2009-10-16 13:34 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-10-16 12:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 826 bytes --] On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz < thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> wrote: > Hi all, > > this seems like a very basic question, but I haven't found anything on the > wiki and in the archive: I'm typesetting a book with mkiv, and the printer > wants all fonts completely embedded. I knew how to do this in mkii, but what > about mkiv? (Btw, I'm using \enableprotruding and \enableadjusting, would > this make any difference for embedding the fonts?) > > I work in a printer house so.... Before full embedding you can try with these political moves 1) "I give you all the fonts you need for free" 2) "I cannot completly embedd the fonts, because there are copyright isuues" After that , did you already tried to do the same things in miv as in mkii ? If they fails, then we must find a solution . -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1192 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 12:16 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-10-16 13:34 ` Thomas A. Schmitz 2009-10-16 15:15 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-10-16 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Oct 16, 2009, at 2:16 PM, luigi scarso wrote: > I work in a printer house so.... > Before full embedding > you can try with these political moves > 1) "I give you all the fonts you need for free" > 2) "I cannot completly embedd the fonts, because there are copyright > isuues" OK, that sounds like a good strategy :-) > After that , > did you already tried to do the same things in miv as in mkii ? > > If they fails, > then we must find a solution . No, the mkii solution was on the level of the map-files (just use <<font.pfb instead of <font.pfb, and it will be fully embedded); that is not applicable to mkiv. Thanks Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 13:34 ` Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-10-16 15:15 ` luigi scarso 2009-10-16 15:21 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-10-16 15:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 426 bytes --] On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz < thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> wrote: > If they fails, >> then we must find a solution . >> > > No, the mkii solution was on the level of the map-files (just use > <<font.pfb instead of <font.pfb, and it will be fully embedded); that is not > applicable to mkiv. > > so "houston, we have a problem here" . I think we need Taco , or go tthrough luatex-ref.pdf . -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 927 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 15:15 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-10-16 15:21 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-16 15:51 ` luigi scarso ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-16 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users luigi scarso wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz > <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de <mailto:thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>> wrote: > > > > If they fails, > then we must find a solution . > > > No, the mkii solution was on the level of the map-files (just use > <<font.pfb instead of <font.pfb, and it will be fully embedded); > that is not applicable to mkiv. > > so "houston, we have a problem here" . > I think we need Taco , or go tthrough luatex-ref.pdf . it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some real string arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be bothered by side effects of fonts not being in a pdf file Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 15:21 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-16 15:51 ` luigi scarso 2009-10-16 16:28 ` Arthur Reutenauer 2009-10-16 18:59 ` William Adams 2 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-10-16 15:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1175 bytes --] On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > luigi scarso wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz < >> thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de <mailto:thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>> wrote: >> >> >> If they fails, >> then we must find a solution . >> >> >> No, the mkii solution was on the level of the map-files (just use >> <<font.pfb instead of <font.pfb, and it will be fully embedded); >> that is not applicable to mkiv. >> >> so "houston, we have a problem here" . >> I think we need Taco , or go tthrough luatex-ref.pdf . >> > > > it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some real > string arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be bothered by side > effects of fonts not being in a pdf file > Fonts not included can sometimes speeds up things when you are coding, but I never use this feature -- too much dangerous. I never used full inclusion too, but it's a prepress job (and yes, I have a prepress office); there is also ghostscript that does this kind of distiller stuffs. Full inclusion can be useful, at least to cover the same feature of pdftex. (my 1cent) -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2059 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 15:21 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-16 15:51 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-10-16 16:28 ` Arthur Reutenauer 2009-10-16 17:10 ` luigi scarso 2009-10-16 18:59 ` William Adams 2 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Arthur Reutenauer @ 2009-10-16 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users > it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some real > string arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be bothered by > side effects of fonts not being in a pdf file "arguments" ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 16:28 ` Arthur Reutenauer @ 2009-10-16 17:10 ` luigi scarso 2009-10-16 17:17 ` Arthur Reutenauer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-10-16 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Arthur Reutenauer <arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org> wrote: >> it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some real >> string arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be bothered by >> side effects of fonts not being in a pdf file > > "arguments" 'arguments' also, but you have not demonstrated that it's real . -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 17:10 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-10-16 17:17 ` Arthur Reutenauer 2009-10-16 17:24 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Arthur Reutenauer @ 2009-10-16 17:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users > but you have not demonstrated > that it's real . "3.14159" ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 17:17 ` Arthur Reutenauer @ 2009-10-16 17:24 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-10-16 17:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Mailing list for ConTeXt users On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Arthur Reutenauer <arthur.reutenauer@normalesup.org> wrote: >> but you have not demonstrated >> that it's real . > > "3.14159" hm, 3.14159 is rational and "3.14159" ∉ {'arguments', "arguments",...} """arguments""" ∈ {'arguments', "arguments",...} -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 15:21 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-16 15:51 ` luigi scarso 2009-10-16 16:28 ` Arthur Reutenauer @ 2009-10-16 18:59 ` William Adams 2009-10-17 8:22 ` R. Bastian 2 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: William Adams @ 2009-10-16 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Oct 16, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some > real string arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be > bothered by side effects of fonts not being in a pdf file The argument to be able to fully include the font is that that's a requirement for many archiving standards. It also allows for easier, cleaner assembly of a single document file from multiple files (all sub-files have compleat fonts, the merged file can then discard the dupes and if desired, sub-set at that point and there's only one sub-setted version of each font, 'stead of multiples as there would be if the fonts were sub-setted in the source files). It also makes it possible to trouble-shoot for instances where font sub-setting may be causing difficulties (make a version w/ the font fully embedded / not sub-setted and see if that works instead). The only negatives I've experienced to fully embedding fonts are: - bloats filesize (not an issue w/ today's equipment and 'net connections) - some font licenses don't allow it (so set it up so that this is determined when the font is installed an such can be dis-allowed where not supported by the fonts' license) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-16 18:59 ` William Adams @ 2009-10-17 8:22 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-17 8:32 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: R. Bastian @ 2009-10-17 8:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context Hello, I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] to a friend. He could not read it. Is there a way to control if the font has been embedded? -- René Bastian www.pythoneon.org www.musiques-rb.org ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-17 8:22 ` R. Bastian @ 2009-10-17 8:32 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-10-17 9:05 ` R. Bastian 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-10-17 8:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users R. Bastian wrote: > Hello, > I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] > to a friend. He could not read it. > > Is there a way to control if the font has been embedded? That cannot be the problem. Is the pdf is unreadable, something in your compilation process is wrong, and there should be some hint in the log. It would help if you posted the input and/or the log file. Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-17 8:32 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-10-17 9:05 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-17 10:17 ` Peter Rolf 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: R. Bastian @ 2009-10-17 9:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 773 bytes --] On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:32:41 +0200 Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> scribit: > R. Bastian wrote: > > Hello, > > I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] > > to a friend. He could not read it. > > > > Is there a way to control if the font has been embedded? > > That cannot be the problem. Is the pdf is unreadable, something > in your compilation process is wrong, and there should be some > hint in the log. It would help if you posted the input and/or > the log file. > > Best wishes, > Taco > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ Here the source & log. Is something wrong ? 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PDF statistics: 17 PDF objects out of 1000 (max. 8388607) 11 compressed objects within 1 object stream 0 named destinations out of 1000 (max. 131072) 1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 10000 (max. 10000000) [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --] [-- Attachment #3: vorlage.tex --] [-- Type: text/x-tex; name=vorlage.tex, Size: 2330 bytes --] \enableregime[utf] \parindent 0mm \parskip 6mm %\showframe \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10pt] \definepapersize[monpapier][width=210mm,height=297mm] \setuppapersize[monpapier][monpapier] % A4 \setuplayout[textwidth=16cm, textheight=25cm, topspace=1cm, leftmargin=5mm, rightmargin=5mm, leftmargindistance=3mm] \setupheadertexts[chapter] % marginedge pousse vers le milieu \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided,location={footer,inleft}] \language[fr] \setuphead[chapter][page=no, textstyle=cap, numberstyle=bold, after={\blank\hrule\blank}] \setuphead[title][after={\blank\hrule\blank}] \def\auteur#1{\hfill#1\blank} \definehead[sujet][subject] \setuphead[sujet][textstyle=bold] \definehead[masection][section] \setuphead[masection][textstyle=bold, %before=\noindent\hairline, alternative=inmargin, after=\nowhitespace\hairline] \starttext \title[nmkk]{Neue Methoden der Klangkonstruktion} \auteur{René Bastian -- 26.10.2009} Betrachtet man die Landschaft der elektro-akustischen Musik in diesen digitalen Zeiten, so kann man oder darf noch feststellen, dass sie entweder brach liegt oder, dass sie, genauso wie immense Landstriche, digital sterilisert wurde. Für Industrie \& Handel, hinter dem Vorwand von Europa \& Kultur, ist das Ziel erreicht. Der Restbestand an Musikkritik ist so vor der Musik geflohen, dass die Landschaft der elektro-akustischen Musik fast widerstandslos von Industrie \& Handel bewirtschaftet werden. Auch wenn sich zur Zeit fast kein Gedankchen muckst, besteht die Möglichkeit eines Widerstandes gegen diese Sterilisierung in der Konjunktion von offener Algorithmik und experimenteller Musik. Um die ontologische und gerontologische Entsorgung dieser Ideologien zu vollziehen, heisst es zuerst die Grundlagen der Digitalisierung mit ihrer impliziten Ideologie zu konfrontieren und dann daraus der experimentellen Musik neue Wege vorzuschlagen. \stoptext {\it beste möglich Welt} %Alles scheint bestens, wie auch der politische Butter. % %Im digitalen Umfeld sind neue Methoden der Klangkonstruktion %gefragt. Dies ist nur möglich indem die Grundlagen der Digitalisierung %mit ihrer impliziten Ideologie konfrontiert werden. TINA, %{\it There Is No Alternative}, ist ein fester Bestandsteil dieser %Ideologien. [-- Attachment #4: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-17 9:05 ` R. Bastian @ 2009-10-17 10:17 ` Peter Rolf 2009-10-18 8:38 ` R. Bastian 0 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2009-10-17 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1720 bytes --] R. Bastian schrieb: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:32:41 +0200 > Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> scribit: > > >> R. Bastian wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] >>> to a friend. He could not read it. >>> >>> Is there a way to control if the font has been embedded? >>> >> That cannot be the problem. Is the pdf is unreadable, something >> in your compilation process is wrong, and there should be some >> hint in the log. It would help if you posted the input and/or >> the log file. >> >> Best wishes, >> Taco >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > > Here the source & log. > > Is something wrong ? > Thnaks for your help. > No problems here. Is there any reason not to use an uptodate context version? In a few weeks your version is celebrating it's third birthday... ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2009.4.22 int: english/english See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals for the preferred method. Very simple installation and it works like a charm :) Best wishes, Peter > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3075 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-17 10:17 ` Peter Rolf @ 2009-10-18 8:38 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-18 8:40 ` Taco Hoekwater ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: R. Bastian @ 2009-10-18 8:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:17:45 +0200 Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net> scribit: > R. Bastian schrieb: > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:32:41 +0200 > > Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> scribit: > > > > > >> R. Bastian wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] > >>> to a friend. He could not read it. > >>> > >>> Is there a way to control if the font has been embedded? > >>> > >> That cannot be the problem. Is the pdf is unreadable, something > >> in your compilation process is wrong, and there should be some > >> hint in the log. It would help if you posted the input and/or > >> the log file. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> Taco > >> > >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ > >> > > > > Here the source & log. > > > > Is something wrong ? > > Thnaks for your help. > > > No problems here. Is there any reason not to use an uptodate context > version? > In a few weeks your version is celebrating it's third birthday... > > ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2009.4.22 int: english/english > > See > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals > > for the preferred method. Very simple installation and it works like a > charm :) OK. - nothing is wrong - but the pdf is not readable ... > > > Best wishes, Peter > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- René Bastian www.pythoneon.org www.musiques-rb.org ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 8:38 ` R. Bastian @ 2009-10-18 8:40 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-10-18 9:05 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-18 8:44 ` luigi scarso 2009-10-18 11:16 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-10-18 8:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users >> No problems here. Is there any reason not to use an uptodate context >> version? >> In a few weeks your version is celebrating it's third birthday... >> >> ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2009.4.22 int: english/english >> >> See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals >> >> for the preferred method. Very simple installation and it works like a >> charm :) > > OK. > > - nothing is wrong > - but the pdf is not readable ... Can you expand a bit on 'not readable', please? Are you sure your friend even has a program capable of pdf reading? Best wishes, Taco ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 8:40 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-10-18 9:05 ` R. Bastian 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: R. Bastian @ 2009-10-18 9:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:40:54 +0200 Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> scribit: > >> No problems here. Is there any reason not to use an uptodate context > >> version? > >> In a few weeks your version is celebrating it's third birthday... > >> > >> ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2009.4.22 int: english/english > >> > >> See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals > >> > >> for the preferred method. Very simple installation and it works like a > >> charm :) > > > > OK. > > > > - nothing is wrong > > - but the pdf is not readable ... > > Can you expand a bit on 'not readable', please? Are you sure your friend > even has a program capable of pdf reading? > > Best wishes, > Taco 1. I wont go back to Latex 2. My friend edited my texts in Latex generated PDF forms since 2001 3. He is a Windows-user (I use Debian). Before seeing him (and his computer ;-) next week, I would know how to diagnose (debug). 4. He said that it's the first time he cannot read a PDF text. 5. I wont go back to Latex ;-) > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- René Bastian www.pythoneon.org www.musiques-rb.org ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 8:38 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-18 8:40 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2009-10-18 8:44 ` luigi scarso 2009-10-18 11:16 ` Hans Hagen 2 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-10-18 8:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 504 bytes --] On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM, R. Bastian <rbastian@free.fr> wrote: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:17:45 +0200 > Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net> scribit: > > > R. Bastian schrieb: > > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:32:41 +0200 > > > Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> scribit: > > > > > > > > >> R. Bastian wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hello, > > >>> I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 > pt] > > >>> to a friend. He could not read it. > can you send me it via private email ? -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1022 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 8:38 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-18 8:40 ` Taco Hoekwater 2009-10-18 8:44 ` luigi scarso @ 2009-10-18 11:16 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-18 12:15 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-18 20:06 ` luigi scarso 2 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-18 11:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users R. Bastian wrote: > - nothing is wrong > - but the pdf is not readable ... a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue a proper message when something is wrong ancient viewers might not support object compression Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 11:16 ` Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-18 12:15 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-18 15:06 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-18 20:06 ` luigi scarso 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: R. Bastian @ 2009-10-18 12:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:16:09 +0200 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> scribit: > R. Bastian wrote: > > > - nothing is wrong > > - but the pdf is not readable ... > > a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue a proper > message when something is wrong Thanks ! On my 2 systems (Debian & Kubuntu) pdftops works fine - as xpdf. > > ancient viewers might not support object compression It is possible that Stephan W. - who should read the pdf - has an old viewer on his Windows. > > Hans > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- René Bastian www.pythoneon.org www.musiques-rb.org ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 12:15 ` R. Bastian @ 2009-10-18 15:06 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-18 15:40 ` Peter Rolf 2009-10-18 21:33 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: R. Bastian @ 2009-10-18 15:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:15:08 +0200 "R. Bastian" <rbastian@free.fr> scribit: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:16:09 +0200 > Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> scribit: > > > R. Bastian wrote: > > > > > - nothing is wrong > > > - but the pdf is not readable ... > > > > a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue a proper > > message when something is wrong > > Thanks ! > > On my 2 systems (Debian & Kubuntu) pdftops works fine - as xpdf. > > > > ancient viewers might not support object compression > > It is possible that Stephan W. - who should read the pdf - has an old viewer > on his Windows. His answer: ------------------------------------------------------------- ich verwende den standard pdf reader adobe acrobat version 5 ------------------------------------------------------------- Too old or too new ? ;-) > > > > > Hans > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > > | www.pragma-pod.nl > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > -- > René Bastian > www.pythoneon.org > www.musiques-rb.org > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- René Bastian www.pythoneon.org www.musiques-rb.org ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 15:06 ` R. Bastian @ 2009-10-18 15:40 ` Peter Rolf 2009-10-18 17:56 ` Barry Schwartz 2009-10-18 21:33 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 34+ messages in thread From: Peter Rolf @ 2009-10-18 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2875 bytes --] R. Bastian schrieb: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:15:08 +0200 > "R. Bastian" <rbastian@free.fr> scribit: > > >> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:16:09 +0200 >> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> scribit: >> >> >>> R. Bastian wrote: >>> >>> >>>> - nothing is wrong >>>> - but the pdf is not readable ... >>>> >>> a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue a proper >>> message when something is wrong >>> >> Thanks ! >> >> On my 2 systems (Debian & Kubuntu) pdftops works fine - as xpdf. >> >>> ancient viewers might not support object compression >>> >> It is possible that Stephan W. - who should read the pdf - has an old viewer >> on his Windows. >> > > His answer: > ------------------------------------------------------------- > ich verwende den standard pdf reader adobe acrobat version 5 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Too old or too new ? ;-) > donno exactly in which version of the pdf language object compression was introduced (1.4-1.5?). you can try to set \pdfminorversion 4 % default is currently 5 in your test document and only features of pdf 1.4 are used (pdf version 1.x needs at least reader version x+1). >>> Hans >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com >>> | www.pragma-pod.nl >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! >>> >>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >>> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> >> -- >> René Bastian >> www.pythoneon.org >> www.musiques-rb.org >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> > > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4930 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 15:40 ` Peter Rolf @ 2009-10-18 17:56 ` Barry Schwartz 0 siblings, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Barry Schwartz @ 2009-10-18 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Peter Rolf <indiego@gmx.net> skribis: > donno exactly in which version of the pdf language object compression > was introduced (1.4-1.5?). you can try to set I think cross reference streams are 1.5, because this issue arose for me with fontforge, which needed conventional xref. > > \pdfminorversion 4 % default is currently 5 > > in your test document and only features of pdf 1.4 are used (pdf version > 1.x needs at least reader version x+1). Up until pdf 1.7, anyway. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 15:06 ` R. Bastian 2009-10-18 15:40 ` Peter Rolf @ 2009-10-18 21:33 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-18 21:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users R. Bastian wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------- > ich verwende den standard pdf reader adobe acrobat version 5 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > Too old or too new ? ;-) standard on what? it's pretty old apart from object compression not being supported in version 5, succesive versions are much better so maybe updating makes sense Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
* Re: embed fonts 2009-10-18 11:16 ` Hans Hagen 2009-10-18 12:15 ` R. Bastian @ 2009-10-18 20:06 ` luigi scarso 1 sibling, 0 replies; 34+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2009-10-18 20:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 463 bytes --] On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: > R. Bastian wrote: > > - nothing is wrong >> - but the pdf is not readable ... >> > > a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue a proper > message when something is wrong > > ancient viewers might not support object compression > acrobatreader 3.x 4.x 5.x ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/acrobatreader Reader 6.x 7.x 8.x 9.x ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader -- luigi [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1070 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 486 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 34+ messages in thread
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