From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/53479 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: embed fonts Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:51:38 +0200 Message-ID: References: <3E3090CE-36B8-419A-A533-4746707E6C03@uni-bonn.de> <4AD88F6A.4010400@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2123386434==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1255708333 23737 80.91.229.12 (16 Oct 2009 15:52:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:52:13 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Oct 16 17:52:02 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Myp62-0006gZ-KL for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:52:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3B2C9B7A; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:52:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rLfeiAhWHkKD; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:51:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35F7CC9B03; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:51:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1931CC9AAF for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:51:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id xh5zYJWnwDOp for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:51:39 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-ew0-f223.google.com (mail-ew0-f223.google.com [209.85.219.223]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3A3C9B03 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:51:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by ewy23 with SMTP id 23so2125909ewy.2 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:51:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HvalJj6r98K5DSpm0WpOP6laaArkelaLHclUN0eRSsI=; b=reoNmbPvWYPHTpK22VkOqzHr+llEpubUN5J1wnuEOcaEh87ybhZlrqUS4CcUphqCGA 8gpS+TnBoObEHMb36dtAYtkjH2+EQQp4C/NuAsf/ClBj73GUhido+4p1tKHyYJ02zXww TasTBVn6nckCm3kDohAGch01OO9pysA0PmLmY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=O1Swp6dfXVDNa+FAQJbJwLED5sOKDBozlyLx6h3+NEy13VsKjQFM1a2zQrTYLXw+K3 9GFaRiYJKK+2w4ywuDh/UlU7E9BPMkt5od2rEmnpDJ2A+3rY8AIVnadiBDHxLVe3Svtb h+Yflbw1TRKbDW1edB9uEBMlUlQSbgnMlMRaI= Original-Received: by 10.216.91.81 with SMTP id g59mr658078wef.128.1255708298540; Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:51:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AD88F6A.4010400@wxs.nl> X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:53479 Archived-At: --===============2123386434== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9a02713770304760f5f3d --0016e6d9a02713770304760f5f3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > luigi scarso wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz < >> thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de > wrote: >> >> >> If they fails, >> then we must find a solution . >> >> >> No, the mkii solution was on the level of the map-files (just use >> <> that is not applicable to mkiv. >> >> so "houston, we have a problem here" . >> I think we need Taco , or go tthrough luatex-ref.pdf . >> > > > it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some real > string arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be bothered by side > effects of fonts not being in a pdf file > Fonts not included can sometimes speeds up things when you are coding, but I never use this feature -- too much dangerous. I never used full inclusion too, but it's a prepress job (and yes, I have a prepress office); there is also ghostscript that does this kind of distiller stuffs. Full inclusion can be useful, at least to cover the same feature of pdftex. (my 1cent) -- luigi --0016e6d9a02713770304760f5f3d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Hans Ha= gen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
luigi scarso wrote:



On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de = <mailto:= thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>> wrote:

=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0If they fails,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0then we must find a solution .


=C2=A0 =C2=A0No, the mkii solution was on the level of the map-files (just= use
=C2=A0 =C2=A0<<font.pfb instead of <font.pfb, and it will be full= y embedded);
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that is not applicable to mkiv.

so "houston, we have a problem here" .
I think we need =C2=A0Taco , or go tthrough luatex-ref.pdf .

=C2=A0
it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some real s= tring arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be bothered by si= de effects of fonts not being in a pdf file

Fonts not included can sometimes speeds up things when you are coding,= but I never use this feature -- too much dangerous.
I never used full i= nclusion too, but it's a prepress job (and yes, I have a prepress offic= e);
there is also ghostscript that does this kind of distiller stuffs.
Full inclusion can be useful, at least to cover the same feature of = pdftex.
(my 1cent)

--
luigi

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