From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/53637 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: luigi scarso Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Page Numbering Hell Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 10:49:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D6CE2B0@slcmail.slc.mew.int> <4C80A4C0-DBD4-4B7C-A9CB-A16265F22462@uni-bonn.de> <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D039292@slcmail.slc.mew.int> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256456821 5182 80.91.229.12 (25 Oct 2009 07:47:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 07:47:01 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Oct 25 08:46:54 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N1xoT-0001ya-Ue for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:46:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00483C9D0C; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:43:56 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 7M7iZJwuFCi3; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:43:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEE50C9BFF; Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:42:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7120BC9AAA for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:35:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bxEOGCNiX2DD for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:35:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f219.google.com (mail-fx0-f219.google.com [209.85.220.219]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5539C9A63 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 09:35:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: by fxm19 with SMTP id 19so11121374fxm.2 for ; Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:36:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yUjjfY9NWDX1oVxBae4UmY7MJ4IbEP50Gjd1SzC7P0A=; b=E34CRXPt89RZrMP4Lc1+MXDPyZ7OiUKgbX871+PuEnfn5V66XyPznLvaTZND/qcX+X EDtBrjD9HnIVPaB6ygSmjK4j4yYw1TfKaaaJPRuAngkkkx4QASjgikSn6yBHbpvnHW8Y CUzaQ7Io+4unDZGSHjKgq1sFIJrAQiVN0UbvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=V5pR6HdjW36ctVswZ+lKV8RsbxAMVATC2TmFchf3zbfmlpW/tNtEiHs1Qldo5g5WgJ mFY4S7Wktn5w5PVS6UoSb7gihP/9hOtl9Ur8fzQ9f3D2T/XYYM7DxhwDIblcMbMOyDO/ DHoA4W+/xtP+Cgfnldr9/JdJsCEPzvWdU7UU8= Original-Received: by 10.204.153.220 with SMTP id l28mr2415205bkw.86.1256287763852; Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:49:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51CAD0CE1504444DBE77CBBE51A0135D039292@slcmail.slc.mew.int> X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:53637 Archived-At: On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Bryant Eastham wrote: > Thomas, all: > > It appears that not all of the messages have been delivered in a timely manner - I just received quite a few. I suppose that is why you reference the reply I got (or didn't until just now). FYI, it appears to me that there are major issues with the ntg.nl domain name server - it sometimes seems to go non-responsive. I can fix my local machine for web access, but I cannot change my mailer. > > As I have already written, sorry for the caustic approach. I obviously have offended you, and apologize. > > Most of your points are well taken. Yes, I had looked at all the examples that I could find, I had checked the many references, and could not find documentation on most of the routines that current postings seem to indicate should be used. With the further pointers I have received I will try again, and post my results. > > As for my "real" comment, snide question begs snide response. I accept that. However, keep in mind that "real" to me >doesn't mean "cool", or "full of features", or "better", but rather means that it will work, day in and day out, in a >commercial environment. by now 5 years on production with ConTeXt . I think Pragma is on production from 20 years. > > Judging by other responses, the jury is out on "real" (at least of mkiv). Two projects running with mkiv. > I will continue to evaluate. And, my 35 documents, hundreds of pages was not meant to be multiplied! I have under >1,000 pages total. $>pdfinfo pdftex.pdf : Pages: 812 : 1000 pages is not a big number even for a single doc. The problems today are opentype, colours, multilingual, multi channel ouput, automatic workflow. There are not so many tools that are programmable as ConTeXt (anyway, you can always buy expensive solutions). > > Thanks to others for their responses. I will try them out tomorrow, and will be sure to collect all my hundreds of attempts Tests -- that's what we need. -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________