* ConTeXt swallows text
@ 2010-01-19 18:22 Oliver Heins
2010-01-19 20:17 ` luigi scarso
0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-19 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hi,
under certain circumstances, ConTeXt swallows text. This happens with
both MkII and MkIV and a fairly recent minimals distribution.
| ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKII fmt: 2009.11.25 int: english/english
| ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKIV fmt: 2009.11.25 int: english/english
Sadly, I noticed not until the booklet was already printed. (Actually,
it was my customer who noticed.) :-(
Best regards,
olli
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offset=0mm,
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location=middle,
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[title][left]
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\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte}
\placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[foo][width=1.95\textwidth]}
\subject{Victoria Beckham pregnant again!}
Barack Obama is the father! Confronted with this fact, her husband
David Beckham said\,\dots (Actually, this is a very important news the
world should knew about!)
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-19 18:22 ConTeXt swallows text Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-19 20:17 ` luigi scarso 2010-01-19 21:05 ` Oliver Heins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2010-01-19 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: > Hi, > > under certain circumstances, ConTeXt swallows text. This happens with > both MkII and MkIV and a fairly recent minimals distribution. > > | ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKII fmt: 2009.11.25 int: english/english > | ConTeXt ver: 2009.11.24 10:13 MKIV fmt: 2009.11.25 int: english/english > > Sadly, I noticed not until the booklet was already printed. (Actually, > it was my customer who noticed.) :-( > > Best regards, > olli > > % ----------------------------------- > \enableregime[utf-8] > \setupbodyfont[ss,10pt] > \setupinterlinespace[line=2.6ex] > > \setuppapersize[A4][A4] > \setuplayout[backspace=2cm,width=middle, > offset=0mm, > topspace=0cm,height=middle, > location=middle, > ] > \setupcolors[state=start] > \setuptolerance[tolerant,verytolerant] > > \definefloat[grafik] > \setupcaption[grafik][number=no,location=bottom] > > \definecolumnset[ergebnisse][n=3] > \definecolumnsetarea > [title][left] > [x=1,y=1,nx=6,ny=42,page=2,state=start] > > \starttext > > \startcolumnset[ergebnisse] > > \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte} > > \placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[foo][width=1.95\textwidth]} > > \subject{Victoria Beckham pregnant again!} > > Barack Obama is the father! Confronted with this fact, her husband > David Beckham said\,\dots (Actually, this is a very important news the > world should knew about!) > > \dorecurse{3}{\input tufte} > > \stopcolumnset > > \stoptext > % ----------------------------------- > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > Why nx=6 and width=1.95\textwidth ? What about this ? \enableregime[utf-8] \setupbodyfont[ss,10pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=2.6ex] \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuplayout[backspace=2cm,width=middle, offset=0mm, topspace=0cm,height=middle, location=middle, ] \setupcolors[state=start] \setuptolerance[tolerant,verytolerant] \definefloat[grafik] \setupcaption[grafik][number=no,location=bottom] \definecolumnset[ergebnisse][n=3] \definecolumnsetarea [title][left] [x=1,y=1,nx=2,ny=42,page=2,state=start] \setupcolumnsetareatext[title][left][{\externalfigure[cow][width=1.95\textwidth]}] \starttext \startcolumnset[ergebnisse] \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte} %\placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[cow][width=1.95\textwidth]} \subject{foo fooo fooof oof fooo} \dorecurse{5}{\input tufte} \stopcolumnset \stoptext -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-19 20:17 ` luigi scarso @ 2010-01-19 21:05 ` Oliver Heins 2010-01-19 22:38 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-19 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi Luigi, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> writes: > Why nx=6 Because of the layout of the booklet. The area should fit over two pages (= 6 columns). > and width=1.95\textwidth ? I played around with the width to see if the problem still happens. For some reason, I stuck with 1.95\textwidth. In my original setup, I had lines=19 :-) > What about this ? That's a completely different layout. You can find the relevant pages of the booklet at http://sopos.org/olli/armut-fail.pdf Regards, olli -- Oliver Heins heins@sopos.org http://oliverheins.net/ http://blog.overheins.net/ F27A BA8C 1CFB B905 65A8 http://scriptorium-adp.de/ 2544 0F07 B675 9A00 D827 1024D/9A00D827 2004-09-24 -- gpg --recv-keys 0x9A00D827 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-19 21:05 ` Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-19 22:38 ` luigi scarso 2010-01-20 9:08 ` Oliver Heins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2010-01-19 22:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: > Hi Luigi, > > luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> writes: > >> Why nx=6 > > Because of the layout of the booklet. The area should fit over two > pages (= 6 columns). ok >You can find the relevant pages > of the booklet at http://sopos.org/olli/armut-fail.pdf If I understand well, you want an automatic solution instead of a manual solution like this one \defineoverlay [foregraphics] [{\externalfigure[cow][width=5.8\textwidth,lines=41]}] \defineoverlay [backgraphics] [{\externalfigure[mill][width=2\textwidth,lines=20]}] \definecolumnset[ergebnisse][n=3] \definecolumnsetarea [title][left] [x=1,y=1,nx=6,ny=42,page=2,state=start,background={backgraphics,foreground,foregraphics}] \setupcolumnsetareatext[title][left][{% \ruledhbox to \dimexpr 6\textwidth+2\backspace+1cm\relax{\raggedright \ruledvbox to 41\lineheight{\hsize=1.6\textwidth {\bfd 1} \dorecurse{3}{ \input knuth }} \hskip0.5em \ruledvbox to 41\lineheight{\hsize=1.6\textwidth {\bfd 2} \dorecurse{3}{ \input knuth }} \hskip\backspace \ruledvbox to 41\lineheight{\hsize=1.6\textwidth {\bfd 3} \dorecurse{3}{ \input knuth }} \hskip0.5em \ruledvbox to 41\lineheight{\hsize=1.6\textwidth {\bfd 4} \dorecurse{3}{ \input knuth }} } }] -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-19 22:38 ` luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 9:08 ` Oliver Heins 2010-01-20 9:50 ` luigi scarso 2010-01-20 12:25 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 9:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi Luigi, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> writes: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: >>You can find the relevant pages >> of the booklet at http://sopos.org/olli/armut-fail.pdf > > If I understand well, you want > an automatic solution > instead of a manual solution like this one No. I already did that. I want that the | \subject{Victoria Beckham pregnant again!} | | Barack Obama is the father! Confronted with this fact, her husband | David Beckham said\,\dots (Actually, this is a very important news the | world should knew about!) part of my minimal example gets typeset. By now, it doesn't. To me that looks like a pretty big bug in ConTeXt. Best regards, olli -- Oliver Heins heins@sopos.org http://oliverheins.net/ http://blog.overheins.net/ F27A BA8C 1CFB B905 65A8 http://scriptorium-adp.de/ 2544 0F07 B675 9A00 D827 1024D/9A00D827 2004-09-24 -- gpg --recv-keys 0x9A00D827 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 9:08 ` Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 9:50 ` luigi scarso 2010-01-20 10:06 ` Oliver Heins 2010-01-20 12:25 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 9:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: > Hi Luigi, > > luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: > >>>You can find the relevant pages >>> of the booklet at http://sopos.org/olli/armut-fail.pdf >> >> If I understand well, you want >> an automatic solution >> instead of a manual solution like this one > > No. I already did that. I want that the > > | \subject{Victoria Beckham pregnant again!} > | > | Barack Obama is the father! Confronted with this fact, her husband > | David Beckham said\,\dots (Actually, this is a very important news the > | world should knew about!) > > part of my minimal example gets typeset. By now, it doesn't. To me > that looks like a pretty big bug in ConTeXt. > > Best regards, > olli For what I understand \placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[foo][width=1.95\textwidth]} and columnset with n=3 are not compatible. I mean 1.95\textwidth and n=3 are not compatible In mkii your \subject disappear, in mkiv no but things changes with 1.92\textwidth whiel with 1.0\textwidth things go well. I'm not surprised because columnsets must be carefully managed . I thought you wanted to place this fig in a span of two columns, but I was wrong -- sorry. -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 9:50 ` luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 10:06 ` Oliver Heins 2010-01-20 10:37 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 10:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> writes: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: >> >> luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: >> >> No. I already did that. I want that the >> >> | \subject{Victoria Beckham pregnant again!} >> | >> | Barack Obama is the father! Confronted with this fact, her husband >> | David Beckham said\,\dots (Actually, this is a very important news the >> | world should knew about!) >> >> part of my minimal example gets typeset. By now, it doesn't. To me >> that looks like a pretty big bug in ConTeXt. >> > For what I understand > \placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[foo][width=1.95\textwidth]} > and columnset with n=3 are not compatible. > I mean > 1.95\textwidth and n=3 are not compatible Same is true for lines=19. I think this is a bug in ConTeXt, and I wanted to report it, in the hope it will get fixed. > In mkii your \subject disappear, in mkiv no but things changes with > 1.92\textwidth > whiel with 1.0\textwidth things go well. > I'm not surprised because columnsets must be carefully managed . Sorry, but I won't consider a »feature working properly only under some very rare circumstances« a properly working feature, but a broken one. > I thought you wanted to place this fig in a span of two columns, but I > was wrong -- sorry. No problem. I should be more precise in my phrases. Best regards, olli -- Oliver Heins heins@sopos.org http://oliverheins.net/ http://blog.overheins.net/ F27A BA8C 1CFB B905 65A8 http://scriptorium-adp.de/ 2544 0F07 B675 9A00 D827 1024D/9A00D827 2004-09-24 -- gpg --recv-keys 0x9A00D827 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 10:06 ` Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 10:37 ` luigi scarso 2010-01-20 11:17 ` Oliver Heins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: >> For what I understand >> \placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[foo][width=1.95\textwidth]} >> and columnset with n=3 are not compatible. >> I mean >> 1.95\textwidth and n=3 are not compatible > > Same is true for lines=19. I think this is a bug in ConTeXt, and I > wanted to report it, in the hope it will get fixed. no surprise here ,as before > >> In mkii your \subject disappear, in mkiv no but things changes with >> 1.92\textwidth >> whiel with 1.0\textwidth things go well. >> I'm not surprised because columnsets must be carefully managed . > > Sorry, but I won't consider a »feature working properly only under some > very rare circumstances« a properly working feature, but a broken one. I disagree here. In columnsets I always exactly specify what I want to do, to avoid surprise. For example in your situation I use width=1.0\textwidth, because \placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[foo][width=1.95\textwidth]} is a non-sense for me: I cannot put a figure large 1.95\textwidth in a column large \textwidth. If I need to do so, then I must reserve a span in a some way. -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 10:37 ` luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 11:17 ` Oliver Heins 2010-01-20 11:59 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 11:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> writes: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: > >>> For what I understand >>> \placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[foo][width=1.95\textwidth]} >>> and columnset with n=3 are not compatible. >>> I mean >>> 1.95\textwidth and n=3 are not compatible >> >> Same is true for lines=19. I think this is a bug in ConTeXt, and I >> wanted to report it, in the hope it will get fixed. > no surprise here ,as before >> >>> In mkii your \subject disappear, in mkiv no but things changes with >>> 1.92\textwidth >>> whiel with 1.0\textwidth things go well. >>> I'm not surprised because columnsets must be carefully managed . >> >> Sorry, but I won't consider a »feature working properly only under some >> very rare circumstances« a properly working feature, but a broken one. > > I disagree here. > In columnsets I always exactly specify what I want to do, to avoid surprise. > For example in your situation I use width=1.0\textwidth, because > \placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[foo][width=1.95\textwidth]} > is a non-sense for me: I cannot put a figure large 1.95\textwidth in > a column large \textwidth. Yes, but the 1.95\textwidth was just a remainder of my experiments with the width to see where the problem occurs and where not. It occurs with width=2\textwidth, too, as well as with lines=19. And the latter two one make sense. And no, I don't want to put a figure 2 columns wide in a single column. I want it to spawn over two columns. > If I need to do so, then I must reserve a span in a some way. According to http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/columns.pdf (page 16ff.) it is perfectly okay to do the way I did. That's what the directive btlr is for: flush from bottom to top and left to right. It's a documented feature, and it's not working properly (at least from what I see). I call this a bug. Best regards, olli -- Oliver Heins heins@sopos.org http://oliverheins.net/ http://blog.overheins.net/ F27A BA8C 1CFB B905 65A8 http://scriptorium-adp.de/ 2544 0F07 B675 9A00 D827 1024D/9A00D827 2004-09-24 -- gpg --recv-keys 0x9A00D827 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 11:17 ` Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 11:59 ` luigi scarso 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Oliver Heins <olli@sopos.org> wrote: > According to http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/columns.pdf (page > 16ff.) it is perfectly okay to do the way I did. > > That's what the directive btlr is for: flush from bottom to top and left > to right. > > It's a documented feature, and it's not working properly (at least from > what I see). I call this a bug. > Yes can be but I don't mix code from chapter Graphics with code from chapter Areas, so until now my code has worked as expected. (I usually work with Area, so this is why I 've said that 1.95\textwidth is non-sense) This works for example in mkiv and mkii ,so I suspect some not-so-good interaction between Area and Chapter, but I still disagree to call it a bug because typesetting in columns is always hard in TeX, so maybe it's a feature that you need but it's not still implemented . Of course more examples can be usefuls in this sense. \setupbodyfont[ss,10pt] \setupinterlinespace[line=2.6ex] \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuplayout[backspace=2cm,width=middle, offset=0mm, topspace=0cm,height=middle, location=middle, ] \setupcolors[state=start] \setuptolerance[tolerant,verytolerant] \definefloat[grafik] \setupcaption[grafik][number=no,location=bottom] \definecolumnset[ergebnisse][n=3] %\definecolumnsetarea %[title][left] %[x=1,y=1,nx=6,ny=42,page=2,state=start] \starttext \startcolumnset[ergebnisse] \definecolumnsethsize{ergebnisse}{1}{2}\Two \dorecurse{10}{\input tufte} \placegrafik[btlr]{none}{\externalfigure[foo][lines=19,width=1.95\textwidth]} \subject{Victoria Beckham pregnant again!} Barack Obama is the father! Confronted with this fact, her husband David Beckham said\,\dots (Actually, this is a very important news the world should knew about!) \dorecurse{8}{\input tufte} \stopcolumnset \stoptext -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 9:08 ` Oliver Heins 2010-01-20 9:50 ` luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 12:25 ` Hans Hagen 2010-01-20 12:53 ` Oliver Heins 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-20 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 20-1-2010 10:08, Oliver Heins wrote: > Hi Luigi, > > luigi scarso<luigi.scarso@gmail.com> writes: > >> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Oliver Heins<olli@sopos.org> wrote: > >>> You can find the relevant pages >>> of the booklet at http://sopos.org/olli/armut-fail.pdf >> >> If I understand well, you want >> an automatic solution >> instead of a manual solution like this one > > No. I already did that. I want that the > > | \subject{Victoria Beckham pregnant again!} > | > | Barack Obama is the father! Confronted with this fact, her husband > | David Beckham said\,\dots (Actually, this is a very important news the > | world should knew about!) > > part of my minimal example gets typeset. By now, it doesn't. To me > that looks like a pretty big bug in ConTeXt. columnsets can indeed loose content depending on how you finish them this might be improved in future versions depending on (also) luatex dev which gives me some more info Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 12:25 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-20 12:53 ` Oliver Heins 2010-01-20 13:07 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi Hans, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes: >> No. I already did that. I want that the >> >> | \subject{Victoria Beckham pregnant again!} >> | >> | Barack Obama is the father! Confronted with this fact, her husband >> | David Beckham said\,\dots (Actually, this is a very important news the >> | world should knew about!) >> >> part of my minimal example gets typeset. By now, it doesn't. To me >> that looks like a pretty big bug in ConTeXt. > > columnsets can indeed loose content depending on how you finish them How can I finish a columnset so that it doesn't loose content? > this might be improved in future versions depending on (also) luatex > dev which gives me some more info :-) Best regards, olli -- Oliver Heins heins@sopos.org http://oliverheins.net/ http://blog.overheins.net/ F27A BA8C 1CFB B905 65A8 http://scriptorium-adp.de/ 2544 0F07 B675 9A00 D827 1024D/9A00D827 2004-09-24 -- gpg --recv-keys 0x9A00D827 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 12:53 ` Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 13:07 ` Hans Hagen 2010-01-20 13:16 ` luigi scarso 2010-01-20 13:36 ` Oliver Heins 0 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-20 13:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 20-1-2010 13:53, Oliver Heins wrote: > Hi Hans, > > Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> writes: > >>> No. I already did that. I want that the >>> >>> | \subject{Victoria Beckham pregnant again!} >>> | >>> | Barack Obama is the father! Confronted with this fact, her husband >>> | David Beckham said\,\dots (Actually, this is a very important news the >>> | world should knew about!) >>> >>> part of my minimal example gets typeset. By now, it doesn't. To me >>> that looks like a pretty big bug in ConTeXt. >> >> columnsets can indeed loose content depending on how you finish them > > How can I finish a columnset so that it doesn't loose content? \page after the stopcolumnset also, as luigi remarked, chapter might somehow interfere if it is set up to start with a new page >> this might be improved in future versions depending on (also) luatex >> dev which gives me some more info > > :-) well, keep in mind that tex itself has no concept of columns at all and that all heuristics (and unpredictable cases) have to be dealt with in macros (and developing that is quite timeconsuming) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 13:07 ` Hans Hagen @ 2010-01-20 13:16 ` luigi scarso 2010-01-20 13:40 ` Oliver Heins 2010-01-20 13:36 ` Oliver Heins 1 sibling, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread From: luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote: >> How can I finish a columnset so that it doesn't loose content? > > \page after the stopcolumnset ^^^ this is fondamental ^^^ My experience says 0) keep start/stopcolumnset as small as possible to flush on a regular basis and 1) use material from chapter Graphics xor 2) use material from chapter Area xor 3) Are you sure that I don't Indesign instead ? -- luigi ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 13:16 ` luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 13:40 ` Oliver Heins 0 siblings, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 13:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> writes: > 3) Are you sure that I don't Indesign instead ? Guess I'm too much a TeXnician (or a TeXophilian) for that, and besides, Indesign doesn't run under Linux anyway (I have a kind of windowphobia ;-). Best regards, olli ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
* Re: ConTeXt swallows text 2010-01-20 13:07 ` Hans Hagen 2010-01-20 13:16 ` luigi scarso @ 2010-01-20 13:36 ` Oliver Heins 1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread From: Oliver Heins @ 2010-01-20 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes: > On 20-1-2010 13:53, Oliver Heins wrote: >> >> How can I finish a columnset so that it doesn't loose content? > > \page after the stopcolumnset Thanks, I didn't know this. > also, as luigi remarked, chapter might somehow interfere if it is set > up to start with a new page > >>> this might be improved in future versions depending on (also) luatex >>> dev which gives me some more info >> >> :-) > > well, keep in mind that tex itself has no concept of columns at all > and that all heuristics (and unpredictable cases) have to be dealt > with in macros (and developing that is quite timeconsuming) I know. Thanks for doing this job so well and sharing the code, Hans! Hopefully, things are getting better with luatex. Best regards, olli ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 16+ messages in thread
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