* {\rm foo {\it bar}}
@ 2023-06-30 9:47 Gerben Wierda
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2023-07-04 21:29 ` Bruce Horrocks
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2023-06-30 9:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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If I typeset
{\rm foo{\it bar}}
bar is not in italic
if I typeset
{\it bar}
it is.
What am I missing?
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* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}}
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@ 2023-07-04 21:17 ` Gerben Wierda
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After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right again.
Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in
\definefontfamily
[helvetica]
[ss]
[Helvetica]
[tf=style:Regular,
bf=style:Bold,
it=style:Oblique,
bi=style:Bold Oblique]
\starttext
{\rm The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog {\it Optima}}
\setupbodyfont[helvetica]
{\rm The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog {\it Optima}}
\stoptext
> On 4 Jul 2023, at 22:52, Bruce Horrocks <bruce@scorecrow.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 30 Jun 2023, at 10:47, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl <mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl>> wrote:
>>
>> If I typeset
>>
>> {\rm foo{\it bar}}
>>
>> bar is not in italic
>
> It is in italic for me in ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.04
>
>> if I typeset
>>
>> {\it bar}
>>
>> it is.
>>
>> What am I missing?
>>
>> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn, Mastodon)
>> R&A IT Strategy (main site)
>> Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture
>> Book: Mastering ArchiMate
>
> —
> Bruce Horrocks
> Hampshire, UK
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* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}}
2023-07-04 21:17 ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2023-07-04 21:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2023-07-04 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Gerben Wierda schrieb am 04.07.2023 um 23:17:
> After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right
> again.
>
> Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in
>
> \definefontfamily
> [helvetica]
> [ss]
> [Helvetica]
> [tf=style:Regular,
> bf=style:Bold,
> it=style:Oblique,
> bi=style:Bold Oblique]
Does it work when you remove the manual assignments to tf, it, etc. or
when you use lowercase names (without spaces), e.g. "bi=boldoblique" (or
"bi=bolditalic").
Wolfgang
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* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}}
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From: Bruce Horrocks @ 2023-07-04 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> On 30 Jun 2023, at 10:47, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote:
>
> If I typeset
>
> {\rm foo{\it bar}}
>
> bar is not in italic
It is in italic for me in ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.04
> if I typeset
>
> {\it bar}
>
> it is.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn, Mastodon)
> R&A IT Strategy (main site)
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* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}}
2023-07-04 21:26 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2023-07-04 21:42 ` Gerben Wierda
2023-07-04 21:48 ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-04 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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> On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:26, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 04.07.2023 um 23:17:
>> After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right again.
>>
>> Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in
>>
>> \definefontfamily
>> [helvetica]
>> [ss]
>> [Helvetica]
>> [tf=style:Regular,
>> bf=style:Bold,
>> it=style:Oblique,
>> bi=style:Bold Oblique]
>
> Does it work when you remove the manual assignments to tf, it, etc. or when you use lowercase names (without spaces), e.g. "bi=boldoblique" (or "bi=bolditalic").
No and no. With th elatter it doesn't load Helvetica at all, Error shown:
selectfont > the requested font 'Helvetica' has no files for the 'tf' alternative, Latin Modern is used instead.
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf, lmsans10-regular.otf
With my original it does load (but no italic):
mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: helvetica.ttc, latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf
Erase cache, regenerate formats, reload fonts (force) does give another (probably unrelated) error:
fonts | names | identifying system font files with suffix 'ttf'
fonts | names | globbing path '/Library/Fonts/**.ttf'
fonts | names | globbing path '/System/Library/Fonts/**.ttf'
otf reader | fatal error in file '/System/Library/Fonts/SFCompactRounded.ttf': ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: attempt to index a nil value (field '?')
stack traceback:
...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2344: in metamethod 'index'
...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: in local 'reader'
...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2089: in upvalue 'readtable'
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* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}}
2023-07-04 21:42 ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2023-07-04 21:48 ` Gerben Wierda
2023-07-04 22:11 ` Gerben Wierda
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Also doesn't work with ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.22 14:13 LMTX fmt: 2023.7.4 int: english/english
> On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:42, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:26, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com <mailto:wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 04.07.2023 um 23:17:
>>> After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right again.
>>>
>>> Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in
>>>
>>> \definefontfamily
>>> [helvetica]
>>> [ss]
>>> [Helvetica]
>>> [tf=style:Regular,
>>> bf=style:Bold,
>>> it=style:Oblique,
>>> bi=style:Bold Oblique]
>>
>> Does it work when you remove the manual assignments to tf, it, etc. or when you use lowercase names (without spaces), e.g. "bi=boldoblique" (or "bi=bolditalic").
>
> No and no. With th elatter it doesn't load Helvetica at all, Error shown:
> selectfont > the requested font 'Helvetica' has no files for the 'tf' alternative, Latin Modern is used instead.
> mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf, lmsans10-regular.otf
>
> With my original it does load (but no italic):
> mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: helvetica.ttc, latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf
>
>
> Erase cache, regenerate formats, reload fonts (force) does give another (probably unrelated) error:
>
> fonts | names | identifying system font files with suffix 'ttf'
> fonts | names | globbing path '/Library/Fonts/**.ttf'
> fonts | names | globbing path '/System/Library/Fonts/**.ttf'
> otf reader | fatal error in file '/System/Library/Fonts/SFCompactRounded.ttf': ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: attempt to index a nil value (field '?')
> stack traceback:
> ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2344: in metamethod 'index'
> ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: in local 'reader'
> ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2089: in upvalue 'readtable'
>
>
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* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}}
2023-07-04 21:48 ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2023-07-04 22:11 ` Gerben Wierda
2023-07-05 5:57 ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2023-07-04 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Found it (I think)
\definefontfamily defines tf= but the text says \rm
If I use \tf in the text it works.
If I use \rm in the text it works for default Latin Modern but not for any font defined. This is true regardless of using rm= or tf= in the definition.
So, it seems to be the combination of using definefontfamily and \rm
> On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:48, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> wrote:
>
> Also doesn't work with ConTeXt ver: 2023.06.22 14:13 LMTX fmt: 2023.7.4 int: english/english
>
>> On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:42, Gerben Wierda <gerben.wierda@rna.nl <mailto:gerben.wierda@rna.nl>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 4 Jul 2023, at 23:26, Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com <mailto:wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Gerben Wierda schrieb am 04.07.2023 um 23:17:
>>>> After erasing the font cache and regenerating LM was doing it right again.
>>>>
>>>> Helvetica did not, but maybe I made a mistake in
>>>>
>>>> \definefontfamily
>>>> [helvetica]
>>>> [ss]
>>>> [Helvetica]
>>>> [tf=style:Regular,
>>>> bf=style:Bold,
>>>> it=style:Oblique,
>>>> bi=style:Bold Oblique]
>>>
>>> Does it work when you remove the manual assignments to tf, it, etc. or when you use lowercase names (without spaces), e.g. "bi=boldoblique" (or "bi=bolditalic").
>>
>> No and no. With th elatter it doesn't load Helvetica at all, Error shown:
>> selectfont > the requested font 'Helvetica' has no files for the 'tf' alternative, Latin Modern is used instead.
>> mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf, lmsans10-regular.otf
>>
>> With my original it does load (but no italic):
>> mkiv lua stats > loaded fonts: 4 files: helvetica.ttc, latinmodern-math.otf, lmroman10-italic.otf, lmroman10-regular.otf
>>
>>
>> Erase cache, regenerate formats, reload fonts (force) does give another (probably unrelated) error:
>>
>> fonts | names | identifying system font files with suffix 'ttf'
>> fonts | names | globbing path '/Library/Fonts/**.ttf'
>> fonts | names | globbing path '/System/Library/Fonts/**.ttf'
>> otf reader | fatal error in file '/System/Library/Fonts/SFCompactRounded.ttf': ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: attempt to index a nil value (field '?')
>> stack traceback:
>> ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2344: in metamethod 'index'
>> ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-dsp.lua:3689: in local 'reader'
>> ...-64/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mkiv/font-otr.lua:2089: in upvalue 'readtable'
>>
>>
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* Re: {\rm foo {\it bar}}
2023-07-04 22:11 ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2023-07-05 5:57 ` Gerben Wierda
2023-07-05 7:39 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2023-07-05 7:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 05.07.23 um 07:57 schrieb Gerben Wierda:
> And the reason probably is that the font is defined as sans serif [ss]?
Well, if you only define a sans font, \rm is somewhat undefined.
You call the upright variant with \tf; \rm switches to the serif font.
Hraban
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