From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/37859 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?windows-1252?Q?Maur=ED=ADcio?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: TeX ligatures in XeTeX/LuaTeX: ``who needs them''? Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 03:55:31 -0200 Message-ID: References: <6faad9f00712081404h160264b4h1802480d1140f32a@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197271301 5817 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2007 07:21:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:21:41 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Dec 10 08:21:52 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1cxY-00033e-9w for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:21:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C83B1FB23; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:21:30 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32760-02-2; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:21:23 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FAF1FAE5; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:21:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DFF1FAE5 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:21:16 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 32760-02 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:20:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F83F1FAF5 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:20:39 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J1bcE-0004U9-0I for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:55:42 +0000 Original-Received: from 201.20.229.230.user.ajato.com.br ([201.20.229.230]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:55:41 +0000 Original-Received: from briqueabraque by 201.20.229.230.user.ajato.com.br with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:55:41 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 201.20.229.230.user.ajato.com.br User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20071022) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00712081404h160264b4h1802480d1140f32a@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:37859 Archived-At: > Hello, > > just wondering: how many ConTeXt-ers depend on ligatures such as: > '' (double quote) and '' (two single quotes) -> right double quote > `` -> left double quote > ,, -> DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK > (...) You got replies from experienced users, so I thought you could use an answer from a begginer; there are many of us out there! Really, all of those are problems to me, even -- and ---. If you have ligatures at all, you have to take some (a lot) of time to learn how they work, and which ones are available, and how to avoid them when you need. I would really like if we could replace ligatures for a nice page, linked from the "first steps" documentation, explaining the most interesting Unicode characters and when to use them properly. I've just read about U+2010=962015 in wikipedia pages about hyphens and dashes, and I wish I were directed to those pages instead of everything I've read about ligatures so far. I'm not a professional user of Context, so of course you'll take that into account as you consider what I say. Best, Maur=EDcio ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________