* MKIV and XML documentation
@ 2007-12-17 16:15 Johannes Graumann
2007-12-17 21:18 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Johannes Graumann @ 2007-12-17 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear all,
What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
capabilities?
Thanks, Joh
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-17 16:15 MKIV and XML documentation Johannes Graumann
@ 2007-12-17 21:18 ` Hans Hagen
2007-12-18 12:11 ` Pablo Rodríguez
2007-12-18 13:13 ` Johannes Graumann
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-12-17 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Johannes Graumann wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
> capabilities?
there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll
probably give a tutorial at the context conference)
Hans
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-17 21:18 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-12-18 12:11 ` Pablo Rodríguez
2007-12-18 13:04 ` luigi scarso
2007-12-18 15:26 ` Hans Hagen
2007-12-18 13:13 ` Johannes Graumann
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From: Pablo Rodríguez @ 2007-12-18 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hans Hagen wrote:
> Johannes Graumann wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
>> capabilities?
>
> there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll
> probably give a tutorial at the context conference)
I have read that chapter and I wonder whether this XML handling will be
available in LuaTeX or it will be exclusive for ConTeXt.
Sorry if the question seems to be stupid. I would like to know whether
this will be available for LuaTeX + LaTeX one day.
Thanks,
Pablo
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-18 12:11 ` Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2007-12-18 13:04 ` luigi scarso
2007-12-18 16:22 ` Hans Hagen
2007-12-18 15:26 ` Hans Hagen
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From: luigi scarso @ 2007-12-18 13:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Dec 18, 2007 1:11 PM, Pablo Rodríguez <oinos@web.de> wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
> > Johannes Graumann wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
> >> capabilities?
> >
> > there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll
> > probably give a tutorial at the context conference)
>
> I have read that chapter and I wonder whether this XML handling will be
> available in LuaTeX or it will be exclusive for ConTeXt.
In luatex there is already lxml, which makes the basic layer.
Context mkiv add a 'context way' to do things .
> Sorry if the question seems to be stupid. I would like to know whether
> this will be available for LuaTeX + LaTeX one day.
I don't have the answer, but the question is not stupid at all.
>From my point of view,
one day
pdftex+latex
will be replaced by
luatex+latex
in a transparent way.
Maybe in 2009 .
--
luigi
...
it's new .
it's powerful .
it's luatex .
http://www.luatex.org
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-18 13:04 ` luigi scarso
@ 2007-12-18 16:22 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-12-18 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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luigi scarso wrote:
> On Dec 18, 2007 1:11 PM, Pablo Rodríguez <oinos@web.de> wrote:
>> Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> Johannes Graumann wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>>
>>>> What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
>>>> capabilities?
>>> there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll
>>> probably give a tutorial at the context conference)
>> I have read that chapter and I wonder whether this XML handling will be
>> available in LuaTeX or it will be exclusive for ConTeXt.
> In luatex there is already lxml, which makes the basic layer.
> Context mkiv add a 'context way' to do things .
bewqre, that's officially mkiv code; okay, it's mostly generic, and
could be used elsewhere but that only makes sense when i've frozen the api;
Hans
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-18 12:11 ` Pablo Rodríguez
2007-12-18 13:04 ` luigi scarso
@ 2007-12-18 15:26 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-12-18 15:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Pablo Rodríguez wrote:
> Hans Hagen wrote:
>> Johannes Graumann wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
>>> capabilities?
>> there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll
>> probably give a tutorial at the context conference)
>
> I have read that chapter and I wonder whether this XML handling will be
> available in LuaTeX or it will be exclusive for ConTeXt.
luatex is just lua + tex + access to each other, the luatex dev team
will *not* provide solutions; mkiv is what we use for testing etc etc
> Sorry if the question seems to be stupid. I would like to know whether
> this will be available for LuaTeX + LaTeX one day.
i'm thinking of a multi layer context i.e. kind of macro package
building subsystem; this means that we can for instance provide a kind
of bare tex with only core functionality (fonts, languages, io, xml, etc)
i have no plans to support latex if only because i have no need for it;
the xml parser is rather generic, which is why it is in l-xml, but
things may change (there will be more functionality, as in lxml-*)
(btw, the lpath code is somewhat experimental and will be extended, as
will manipulative functions)
Hans
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-17 21:18 ` Hans Hagen
2007-12-18 12:11 ` Pablo Rodríguez
@ 2007-12-18 13:13 ` Johannes Graumann
2007-12-18 13:39 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Johannes Graumann @ 2007-12-18 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
Can someone please have a quick look at the following:
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
\startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
\xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
\stopxmlsetups
\starttext
\processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
\stoptext
Why do I get nothing but a tuo file when processing like so:
texmfstart \
texexec --lua --purge --arg="odt=Versuch.odt" --result=Versuch.odt.pdf \
COOnTeXML.tex
where the code above is in COOnTeXML.tex and Versuch.odt contains a <text:p>
tag ...
Thanks, Joh
Hans Hagen wrote:
> Johannes Graumann wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> What is currently the best source for documentation on mark iv's xml
>> capabilities?
>
> there is a chapter in mk.pdf; next year i'll write a manual (and i'll
> probably give a tutorial at the context conference)
>
> Hans
>
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-18 13:13 ` Johannes Graumann
@ 2007-12-18 13:39 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-12-18 14:03 ` Johannes Graumann
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-12-18 13:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann <johannes_graumann@web.de>:
> Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
> Can someone please have a quick look at the following:
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
> \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
> \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \starttext
> \processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
> \stoptext
replace this with
\starttext
\xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
\stoptext
\processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with xmlregistersetup
> Why do I get nothing but a tuo file when processing like so:
> texmfstart \
> texexec --lua --purge --arg="odt=Versuch.odt" --result=Versuch.odt.pdf \
> COOnTeXML.tex
> where the code above is in COOnTeXML.tex and Versuch.odt contains a <text:p>
> tag ...
>
> Thanks, Joh
Wolfgang
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-18 13:39 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2007-12-18 14:03 ` Johannes Graumann
2007-12-18 14:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Johannes Graumann @ 2007-12-18 14:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann <johannes_graumann@web.de>:
>> Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
>> Can someone please have a quick look at the following:
>>
>> \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
>> \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
>> \stopxmlsetups
>>
>> \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
>>
>> \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
>> \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
>> \stopxmlsetups
>>
>> \starttext
>> \processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
>> \stoptext
>
> replace this with
>
> \starttext
> \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
> \stoptext
>
> \processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with xmlregistersetup
>
Thanks for the hint, but
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
\startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
\xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
\stopxmlsetups
\starttext
\xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
\stoptext
doesn't give anything different than what I was trying before ...
Joh
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-18 14:03 ` Johannes Graumann
@ 2007-12-18 14:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-12-18 14:31 ` Johannes Graumann
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-12-18 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann <johannes_graumann@web.de>:
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> > 2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann <johannes_graumann@web.de>:
> >> Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
> >> Can someone please have a quick look at the following:
> >>
> >> \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
> >> \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
> >> \stopxmlsetups
> >>
> >> \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
> >>
> >> \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
> >> \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
> >> \stopxmlsetups
> >>
> >> \starttext
> >> \processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
> >> \stoptext
> >
> > replace this with
> >
> > \starttext
> > \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
> > \stoptext
> >
> > \processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with xmlregistersetup
> >
> Thanks for the hint, but
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
> \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
>
> \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
> \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
> \stopxmlsetups
>
> \starttext
> \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
> \stoptext
>
> doesn't give anything different than what I was trying before ...
Can you send a real example (Openoffice file plus TeX file).
Wolfgang
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-18 14:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2007-12-18 14:31 ` Johannes Graumann
2007-12-19 11:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Johannes Graumann @ 2007-12-18 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1451 bytes --]
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann <johannes_graumann@web.de>:
>> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>
>> > 2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann <johannes_graumann@web.de>:
>> >> Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
>> >> Can someone please have a quick look at the following:
>> >>
>> >> \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
>> >> \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
>> >> \stopxmlsetups
>> >>
>> >> \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
>> >>
>> >> \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
>> >> \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
>> >> \stopxmlsetups
>> >>
>> >> \starttext
>> >> \processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
>> >> \stoptext
>> >
>> > replace this with
>> >
>> > \starttext
>> > \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
>> > \stoptext
>> >
>> > \processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with
>> > xmlregistersetup
>> >
>> Thanks for the hint, but
>>
>> \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
>> \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
>> \stopxmlsetups
>>
>> \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
>>
>> \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
>> \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
>> \stopxmlsetups
>>
>> \starttext
>> \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
>> \stoptext
>>
>> doesn't give anything different than what I was trying before ...
>
> Can you send a real example (Openoffice file plus TeX file).
Attached. Thanks for your time. Joh
[-- Attachment #2: COOnTeXML.tex --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Size: 357 bytes --]
% texmfstart texexec --lua COOnTeXML.tex --arg="odt=someotherfile.zip"
\startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
\xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
\stopxmlsetups
\xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
\startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
\xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
\stopxmlsetups
\starttext
\xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
\stoptext
[-- Attachment #3: Versuch.odt --]
[-- Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text, Size: 6759 bytes --]
[-- Attachment #4: Type: text/plain, Size: 487 bytes --]
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-18 14:31 ` Johannes Graumann
@ 2007-12-19 11:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-12-19 13:11 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-12-19 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann <johannes_graumann@web.de>:
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> > 2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann <johannes_graumann@web.de>:
> >> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> >>
> >> > 2007/12/18, Johannes Graumann <johannes_graumann@web.de>:
> >> >> Thanks! I remembered this, but had lost track of where to find it ...
> >> >> Can someone please have a quick look at the following:
> >> >>
> >> >> \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
> >> >> \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
> >> >> \stopxmlsetups
> >> >>
> >> >> \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
> >> >>
> >> >> \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
> >> >> \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
> >> >> \stopxmlsetups
> >> >>
> >> >> \starttext
> >> >> \processXMLfilegrouped{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}
> >> >> \stoptext
> >> >
> >> > replace this with
> >> >
> >> > \starttext
> >> > \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
> >> > \stoptext
> >> >
> >> > \processXMLfilegrouped did not work in combination with
> >> > xmlregistersetup
> >> >
> >> Thanks for the hint, but
> >>
> >> \startxmlsetups xml:mysetups
> >> \xmlsetsetup{\xmldocument}{text:p}{xml:paragraph}
> >> \stopxmlsetups
> >>
> >> \xmlregistersetup{xml:mysetups}
> >>
> >> \startxmlsetups xml:paragraph
> >> \xmlflush{#1}\endgraf
> >> \stopxmlsetups
> >>
> >> \starttext
> >> \xmlprocess{main}{zip::\env{odt}::content.xml}{}
> >> \stoptext
> >>
> >> doesn't give anything different than what I was trying before ...
> >
> > Can you send a real example (Openoffice file plus TeX file).
>
> Attached. Thanks for your time. Joh
I tried this yesterday myself but I get the same error "no xml file found".
Looks like ConTeXt is not able to open zip files in xml mode, you should
Hans for this feature.
Wolfgang
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-19 11:52 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2007-12-19 13:11 ` Hans Hagen
2007-12-19 17:22 ` Johannes Graumann
2007-12-23 13:59 ` Johannes Graumann
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-12-19 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Looks like ConTeXt is not able to open zip files in xml mode, you should
> Hans for this feature.
i probably have to call a different function (locator); i'll have a look
at it (not today, no time)
Hans
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-19 13:11 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-12-19 17:22 ` Johannes Graumann
2007-12-23 13:59 ` Johannes Graumann
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From: Johannes Graumann @ 2007-12-19 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Thanks Hans! Please keep me informed ... I will bug you then and again ;0)
Joh
Hans Hagen wrote:
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> Looks like ConTeXt is not able to open zip files in xml mode, you should
>> Hans for this feature.
>
> i probably have to call a different function (locator); i'll have a look
> at it (not today, no time)
>
> Hans
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* Re: MKIV and XML documentation
2007-12-19 13:11 ` Hans Hagen
2007-12-19 17:22 ` Johannes Graumann
@ 2007-12-23 13:59 ` Johannes Graumann
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From: Johannes Graumann @ 2007-12-23 13:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Just trying to keep this on the radar ... ;0)
Merry Chrismas!
Joh
Hans Hagen wrote:
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> Looks like ConTeXt is not able to open zip files in xml mode, you should
>> Hans for this feature.
>
> i probably have to call a different function (locator); i'll have a look
> at it (not today, no time)
>
> Hans
>
>
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